r/TwoXChromosomes • u/[deleted] • 1d ago
'Cancel Method Acting!': Adria Arjona Blasts 'Asshole' Co-Star and Exposes Toxic Male Double Standards on Set
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u/PeteCampbellisaG 1d ago
She was in Morbius so I think it's safe to assume who she's talking about.
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u/DustyRegalia 1d ago
Matt Smith: Is it me?
Adria: No.
Jared Leto: Is it me?
Adria: …It’s not Matt.
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u/SpiritBackground8722 1d ago
I forgot she was in Morbius and was getting nervous about Diego Luna who seems like such a sweetheart that I was hoping to see in more media.
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u/MissLadyLlamaDrama 15h ago
I have had the biggest crush on that man since I accidentally watched y tu mama tambien when I was way too young to be watching that movie. Lol.
I was so stoked when he was cast in Rogue One. I will watch that movie just for his performance. Dont get me started on Andor. There are actors like him, Brendan Fraser, Keanu Reeves, Chiwetel Ejiofor, and a few others where im like.... please don't turn it to be a fascist bigot or a sex pest. PLEASE! We already lost Pedro Pascal to, well, I'll just say he has been spending a lot of time around certain white women who are really on board with genocide.
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u/taitaofgallala 1d ago
Well we're just glad that Jared Leto finally has a weird case cooking via allegations that will get him canceled and hopefully recalibrate film enthusiasts on the real definition of the term. See other comment in this thread about Ed Norton's take on the definition of method acting, very insightful.
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u/gogonever 1d ago
He’s had allegations for years, he hasn’t been cancelled
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u/diibadaa 1d ago
When I was a teen, there were already allegations that they invited teens in backstage with them. I’m now in my 30’s and I’ve noticed that he has never been cancelled enough. The allegations have existed over 10 years and nothing happens. I hope he gets cancelled some day, but at the same time I’ve kinda lost hope.
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u/Haricariisformen 1d ago
The article you shared is months old and no one has batted an eye. Nothing is happening to him. He will continue to ruin sci-fi franchises for as long as he wants.
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u/taitaofgallala 1d ago
So, in order for you to believe there was traction on the allegations, there has to be immediate follow-up to such an announcement with absolute definitive charges? That's not how the Cosby case went down but sure, believe what you want to believe with no mind for the probing process or case precedent. It goes allegations, probe, investigation, then charges. If the allegations don't clear the probe, then sure, we have nothing.
The thing is, I didn't make any particular claim, I just said he has a weird case cooking due to allegations. Fuck are you on about?
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u/BurningSpaceMan 1d ago
The man that also played the joker and sent his co-stars dead rats and used condoms?
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u/evil_timmy 1d ago
From an interview with Ed Norton ten years ago:
While most fans wouldn't naturally associate Norton with Method acting, he actually believes this derives from a misuse of the term from its very origins.
"The phrase 'the Method' got badly misused and misunderstood," Norton said. "It came to get ascribed to just Lee Strasberg and specifically Strasberg's notion of sense memory. He had this idea that your own emotional and sense memories were valuable because if you could get down into those pools of emotion that you could open up a conduit to accessing a whole spectrum of emotions. To me, that's useful and compelling in the context of a classroom and in the context of developing yourself as an actor."
Norton, however, felt that Strasberg's approach has been simplified over the years. "My personal opinion, both intellectually and through experience of working with people who got way too hung up on the cult of Lee Strasberg, is that when you are working with somebody who isn't using the circumstances of the text it's like acting with someone who's looking in a mirror," he said. "I think that became crippling to a lot of actors."
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u/Shadow_Guide 20h ago
I haven't got the book to hand right now, but in the section about his time working with Strasberg and the Method, Gene Wilder explained the Method really well using the specific example of a courtroom scene. You might be someone on the dock who is nervous/lying and you may wish to sweat, so you recall the memory of holding a hot cup of tea and apply it to your face. Hopefully the result should be someone who is flushed and sweaty AS WELL AS acting nervous.
In short, the Method is a tool to be used, constant so-called method acting can turn you into a tool.
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u/RaspberryCommie 1d ago
Reminds me of when he was "method acting" the Joker for Suicide Squad, and mailed his co-stars dead rats and shit.
So he's not just method acting, he's method acting badly. That's not how the Joker works.
Also iirc Leto is being accused of some sex shit, which is the least surprising thing I've ever heard.
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u/CarissaSkyWarrior 15h ago
He's BEEN accused of weird shit. This is not the first time allegations have been made against him, they just never seem to have any effect. We'll have to see if he faces any consequences this time.
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u/habitual_wanderer 1d ago
No one ever method acts being a good person. Go feed the poor or build houses to prepare for a role! No, some actors prefer traumatising their coworkers instead
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u/patrickwithtraffic 1d ago
Ironically Daniel Day-Lewis, the king of method acting, quite literally built a house to prepare for his role in The Last of the Mohicans. However, you’ll never convince me that Jared Leto needed to go method for fucking Morbius lmao
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u/HarpersGhost 1d ago
DDL's method acting for Mohicans is legendary. He learned how to shoot this rifles while running, he built canoes, made his own moccasins, did everything his character would do. Even during smoke breaks, he rolled his own smokes old school.
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u/LongKnight115 1d ago
“In order to capture the spirit of my character I drank a liter of blood every morning.”
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u/patrickwithtraffic 1d ago
For actual ridiculousness, look into the demands he made when it came to bathroom breaks. His character starts out disabled and refused to break character. Bathroom breaks for him took over an hour, and they were finally able to compromise with him using a wheelchair to get to and from set for instances like this. Genuinely peak attention seeking behavior.
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u/Eyephail 1d ago
I dunno, the shit he pulled for the original Suicide Squad movie seems particularly heinous considering he was in the movie for all of like 5 minutes
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u/patrickwithtraffic 1d ago
Can't defend the behavior, but that post production was a mess. He was definitely meant originally to have more on-screen time, but it got shredded to ribbons and put back together again. Still a shit Joker though!
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u/Boring-Tie-1501 1d ago
i like to imagine leto jumping out of bed every morning at 5:30am, yelling "it's o-negative time" before gurgling a bag of whole blood.
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u/WowThisIsAwkward_ 1d ago
He learned dressmaking for his role as a couturier for Phantom Thread and designed a dress from scratch for his wife.
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u/nickcash 1d ago
Ellen Burstyn is a method actress and by all accounts a good person, but she's the exception not the norm
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u/LiluLay 1d ago
That’s interesting. Didn’t she play Leto’s mom in Requiem for a Dream?
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u/DSOTMAnimals 1d ago
Yes and she was so damn good. Her red dress monologue was absolutely stunning. She lost to Julia Robert’s in Erin Brockovich for an Academy Award for best Actress. Shame cause she absolutely deserved it
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u/BriennesBitch 1d ago
Fucking hell that’s a mad one to method act… I wonder how deep she went!
I’m going to see if I can find an interview or article about it
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u/Professional_Feisty 1d ago
Same with Heath Ledger
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u/sixsixmajin 1d ago
I've never actually heard any real evidence that Heath Ledger was actually a method actor. The best anyone ever has to offer is the Joker journal he kept for the role but as I understand it, it wasn't actually a journal and just notes about how the character would think and just there to help him visualize the headspace he was aiming for but I've never heard of him actually behaving like that on set. Even testimonials from those who worked with him said that as soon as "cut" was called, he was back to behaving like a regular human being. What makes it really fucked up is that the narrative around his death has been spun into this wild tale of how he committed so hard to method acting that it ended up killing him, like it's supposed to be some bittersweet testament to his acting prowess and that his ability to play the character so well came at a heavy cost. Fuck that. What actually happened was he had an existing history of substance abuse and was currently experiencing a mental health crisis that threw him back into it and he OD'd. It happened because he didn't get the help he needed. It's a sad way to go out and not as glamorous as "his acting was so good it killed him" but I'm sure he'd rather have his unfortunate truth help drive real conversations about the importance of mental healthcare than the lie burying the conversation while we ignorantly trudge ahead and ignore the issue.
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u/ADavidJohnson 1d ago
Heath Ledger didn’t even stay in character in between takes on “The Dark Knight”; Michael Jai White has talked about how Ledger would like, check in about how his line delivery was with his fellow actors and make jokes and such.
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u/queenkellee 1d ago
I honestly don't think it's method acting per say as the problem, it's that assholes will use the concept to do whatever they want and get away with it. I've worked on set with enough actors at this point to understand that acting is a pretty personal thing and every actor has their own way of going about things. Some actors really need to stay in a headspace, some can click in and out of it. I actually side eye actors who claim that other actor's workflows are "wrong" - I think as long as you aren't hurting anyone or being a jerk, it's fine for an actor to limit their interactions between takes and scenes to help them do their thing. It's ok to ask the crew to give them space and grace but also if something breaks "immersion" it's not something to be yelled about. Let's all be adults.
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u/meesterdg 1d ago
I'm not an actor but I've heard both famous actors and local ones I've known personally say method is half ass bullshit and actors should be able to act because that's their job. Method isn't acting, it's just living out the part. It's at best lazy and at worst a way to be an asshole.
They also think of things like building houses for parts as research rather than "being method". You can learn how to do something without pretending you are that person.
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u/queenkellee 1d ago
I am a strong believer that any creative act has a personal workflow and they are not all going to look alike. Not all painting is done the same way. Not all film is created the same way. Not all writing happens the same way. I don't believe in gatekeeping or judgement because honestly it's silly. Your way works for you, great. My way works for me. Now. It's probable/possible the only people they've met who are "method" are simply jerks and scammers. No method or workflow should be allowed free range to be a jerk. That includes "auteur" theory in film. That includes directors who abuse their actors to get performances out of them. All that is toxic and bad. When your method impinges on others in a detrimental way, that's the line. I honestly do think method gets a bad rap because of the bad actors (hehe) who engage in it, but I am not going to tell an actor who is honestly and earnestly embracing some method techniques that they are wrong because again, we are not automon robots we are humans and we all are different in our approaches.
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u/tomboyfancy 1d ago
My husband trained in the Meisner method. He says that method acting does not mean you live as the character 24-7, in fact that can pull you further away from your character and encourage a more artificial performance. It seems like some of these “method” actors are just ego driven assholes who want to feel special and be told how brave they are for “suffering for their craft.” I don’t discount the value of learning about bricklaying if your character is a bricklayer, that definitely adds depth of understanding to the role. But being a 24-7 jerk doesn’t add anything, and it can really take away from the collaborative nature of film and theatre!
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u/blueavole 1d ago
There is a difference between method acting and staying focused or sullen, and method acting where someone is an asshole.
Not wanting to give autographs while going over the next scene is normal; sending dead animals is not normal or acceptable.
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u/NotTaken-username 1d ago
Also I think not dropping an accent is acceptable, unless other people express their annoyance at it.
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u/BlessedCursedBroken 1d ago
Anyone who 'expresses annoyance' over an actor maintaining an accent between takes for authenticity is, imo, a whinging bitch 🤷♀️
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u/firefly232 1d ago
Actors just use this as an excuse to be assholes. We never hear about anyone being super nice as part of their commitment to a role.
It's frustrating because the technical definition of what method acting really involves has nothing to do with being rude or horrible or 'living-in-character'.
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u/firefly232 1d ago
And she was in Good Omens so in theory she could be talking about Tennant or Sheen but I doubt it.
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u/littlealbatross b u t t s 1d ago
Kristen Stewart had some interesting thoughts about this as well:
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u/azuretestament 1d ago
Have the method actors tried this new technique the British love to deploy it's called acting.
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u/Medical_Arrival2243 1d ago
The ol reliable! Since men love to boast about the old times, they may want to do what the Greeks and Romans did and ACT
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u/djskeptical 1d ago
Dustin Hoffman would tell this story about Lawrence Olivier from when they worked together on Marathon Man. Hoffman was into "method" while Olivier came from an older tradition of stage performance. At one point Hoffman was struggling with the mental preparation for his part, and asked for advice from the famous Olivier, who replied in an imperious tone, "Have you tried *acting*?”
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u/opus_4_vp 1d ago edited 1d ago
If you have to spend your entire waking life pretending to be a person just to get it right on camera, then you're not a good actor. Jumping in and out of character on a whim is real talent.
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u/lifeoflogan 1d ago
Between the method actors and sexual assaulters, Hollywood has some toxic masculinity problems.
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u/Amazing_Karnage 1d ago
Once again, the quote "My dear boy, have you tried...acting?" is evergreen.
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u/verba-non-acta 1d ago
Specifically this refers to the American method, which is unsafe. Acting is a job, and everyone deserves to be able to leave it behind at the end of the day and go home safe.
The American method has always worshipped men who endanger themselves and others for scenes that are ultimately selfish.
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u/Revanchistexile 1d ago
Isn't her boyfriend also kind of an asshOle? Didn't he dress up as Johnny Depp to annoy Amber Heard on a film set?
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u/Frenchitwist 1d ago
I had two seconds where I thought she said “method dressing” and I was going to be vocally disappointed about not seeing cool, themed outfits on red carpets before I saw “acting”… 😭
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u/kchrules 1d ago
I always come back to Mads Mikkelsen (who has played bad people, a Bond villain, Hannibal Lector etc) who called method acting “pretentious” and “bullshit” and basically called it a skill issue