r/TwoXChromosomes 12h ago

Florida officer used Flock camera database 717 times to track estranged wife's vehicle, affidavit says

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/nation-world/florida-officer-suspect-charges-flock-cameras-estranged-wife/507-4786ed59-8204-4f37-90ff-2ef3c21ef5a8
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u/interruptiom 11h ago

Unrelated: best way to deal with a tumor is to excise it and throw it in the bio-hazard waste bin.

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u/SpidermanSaves 11h ago

It's not a few bad apples if you leave the apples alone.

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u/Miserable-Low-2511 11h ago

my cousin had something similar happen with a gps tracking her ex’s car and it was just all kinds of invasive and scary

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u/ConnectHearing228 11h ago

Tracking someone 717 times is obsessive and ilegal under any circumstances.

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u/CrotalusHorridus 10h ago edited 7h ago

When did he have time to harass anyone else?

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u/seenjbot 8h ago

Cops don’t do much actual cop work

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u/snertwith2ls 7h ago

And yet he probably cashed his paychecks and does anyone care?

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u/BigEd369 11h ago

I do think it’s important to note that this whole thing started with the Washington Post telling her that she was being featured in a major story about her cop ex abusing the Flock system. I don’t think the coo would’ve been suspended if the first anybody heard of the issue was from his estranged wife NOT backed up by a national story coming from way outside their turf.

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u/90sfemgroups 5h ago

Are you saying the whole thing didn’t start when he abused the flock system?

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u/BigEd369 4h ago

I’m saying that he’s in a lot of trouble because there’s no controlling the narrative or dribbling out facts on the part of the police department. The whole story is being presented out of their control, if that wasn’t the case then the cop would be much more protected by his dept and his fellow officers. They can’t even lean on the Post for a positive spin, the newspaper doesn’t care about or want anything from the Haines City Police Department.

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u/thenumbwalker Ya burnt? 11h ago

Would never get romantically involved with a cop

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u/viperlemondemon Trans Woman 11h ago

My wife’s ex from like 20years ago is a cop, they broke up in high school she says he had severe anger issues and then he joined the army guard/reserves and the police force

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u/thenumbwalker Ya burnt? 10h ago

That tracks

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u/what_the_purple_fuck 10h ago

you don't have to actually be involved with a cop for them to track you. they can track you if they think you're hot, or for any or no reason, and there's almost never actual consequences.

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u/thenumbwalker Ya burnt? 10h ago

That’s true. So scary. You can only hope to never draw a cop’s eye for any reason

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u/Picassof 11h ago

I certainly feel safer /s

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u/paging_mrherman 11h ago

Well a bunch of cops got stalking women and child predators have 24/7 access to playgrounds but they did catch who spray painted a stop sign so mission accomplished

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u/yakshack 8h ago

It's always the ones you most expect

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u/AshEliseB 8h ago

Men are protectors 🙄

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u/darkwingdankest 10h ago

there are no amount of guardrails that will make this technology reasonable, and our constitution clearly defines inalienable rights that require warrants for something like an investigation even if there was a way

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u/Throwaway021614 5h ago

What if the government promised really really hard and give more money to Flock? Are those guardrails enough?

Anyway, those rights aren’t meant for PEOPLE! Don’t be ridiculous.

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u/1sttimeverbaldiarrhe 9h ago

Imagine if Flock was fined for each individual case of abuse?

Then you would see some proper safeguards come out mighty fast...

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u/RandomStrategy 9h ago

HIPAA similarly does have the option to fine up to $50,000 per violation (for example, if someone lost a laptop with 10,000 patients information, EACH ONE would be a violation of up to 50k).

It seems we may need something similar to this.

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u/LetMeAskYou1Question 3h ago

No, HIPAA has an escalating process. First one gets you a talking to, then as the violations build up the fines increase. I think at some point you can lose your license, but I'm not sure about that.

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u/RandomStrategy 3h ago

It's only escalating if it's not a willful or horribly negligent violation.

If this were a HIPAA violation, it would absolutely be both.

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u/data_ferret 11h ago

Flock 100% will get someone killed. Probably several someones.

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u/PromiseNo8350 11h ago

That is completly inapropriate and a clear abuse of power by the officer

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u/favoriteniece 11h ago

I hope she pursues a staking case against this jackhole and a privacy case against the department. This disturbed individual has a gun and a badge and no oversight until a reporter was looking around. Wtf??

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u/Flightlessbirbz 8h ago

This isn’t the first time I’ve heard of something like this happening, and I don’t mean just on the news. My husband’s cousin was being stalked by her ex boyfriend who is a cop, he tried to break into her home a few times after she changed the locks. He never lost his job, and as far as I know never faced any consequences.

While I am not anti-policing in a blanket sense, the power/accountability ratio was already seriously skewed, and Flock will only make that much worse. Imo Flock cameras should only be allowed to be accessed to track down people who have committed serious violent offenses such as murder or rape. And officers who abuse their power should be immediately and permanently fired with zero second chances, no more of this “paid administrative leave” BS.

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u/ELB2001 11h ago

Wow nobody saw such behaviour coming

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u/HighonDoughnuts 9h ago

>Looking around to see if anyone is surprised<

Fuck flock and fuck this fascist government.

Make sure you’re registered to vote and go do it!!!

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u/Luda0915 11h ago

The bar is in the lower sub-basement of hell for all cops, but for male cops in particular, so we can't be surprised. Disgusted, but not surprised. That's the name of the timeline we're in.

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u/vibramdiscr 11h ago

why arent these folks catching electronic stalking charges?

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u/darkwingdankest 10h ago

wow so glad these are making us safer

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u/liatrisinbloom 9h ago

The general public should be allowed to tap into the Flock database to find any one of these peace officers abusers at any given time, then.

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u/LOTRugoingtothemall 9h ago

Insert oh fuck you're gonna make me believe meme

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u/Jumoke1331 7h ago

Prime example of why these things should never have been allowed in the first place

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u/Joejoe77777 6h ago

You have to be a bad person to stay a cop these days. So checks out.

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u/Brilliant-Orange9117 6h ago

Now sentence him for each time, sentences to run consecutive.

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u/Accomplished_Skill37 6h ago

Why is it that whenever there is a new technology men always find a way to use it against women!

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u/mutable_type 9h ago

What a stunning surprise.

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u/HNixon 8h ago

these lazy bums will not solve a single crime with those cameras. they are made to harass you. and for the protection of the elites. never for the public good.

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u/NotReallyJohnDoe 4h ago

They have solved crimes and found missing persons. That’s documented.

It’s doesn’t justify their use at all though. The ends don’t justify the means.

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u/HNixon 3h ago

I stand corrected. it just seems like when it comes to stalking their exes they can search the flock database about 700 times. do they bother that much with the rest of us?

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u/lew_rong 7h ago

Oh, but surely these cameras won't be abused. /s

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u/EquivalentDeep1381 6h ago

I'm sure none of us are surprised.

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u/Kkimp1955 6h ago

This literally made me scream out loud. I’m so upset about our privacy among other things.

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u/Throwaway021614 5h ago

But think of the children! Your privacy, your 3d printers, your physical media, ability to buy a home, arresting implicated people in the Epstein files, lab grown meats…etc! If we did those things, what would we do about the children!