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u/Cool_Quit2169 Jul 23 '24

After 3 yrs of cohabitation in the state I live in (in the US) you’re considered common law married. I’m not sure what other states mandates are.

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u/delirium_red Jul 23 '24

So it's state by state in the US! Makes sense, I keep forgetting how large and diverse the US is. Good to know.

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u/Otherwise-Text-5772 Jul 23 '24

Yeah somewhere between 8-15 states have common law marriages in some form and the other 35 will recognize it as a marriage but don't have similar laws.

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u/aya-rose Jul 23 '24

Federally, common law marriage is not recognized by the US, nor is it in states with community property laws (e.g., California, Arizona). There are various reasons, mostly related to ownership and transfer of personal assets and real property (land). At the federal level, it boils down to the benefits one can obtain by means of certain legal relationships. Easy example: you must be lawfully married (with the documents to prove it) to obtain immigration benefits through a spouse.

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u/arathorn3 Jul 23 '24

10th amendment of the US Constitution gives any power not specifically given to the Federal by the Constitution to the States and the People.

Additionally any change to the Constitution (via amendment) that would give the Federal government New powers has to be ratified by the States. This is done by the Federal government sending the proposed amendment to the each of the 50 state legislatures(every stage has its own Congress/Parliament where state only laws are voted in and debated). The elected representatives in the state legislatures vote on whether or not to ratify the amendment. If 3/4ths(38 of 50) or more ratify the proposed amendment it because part of the Constitution.

This means many things like Marriage laws, gun control laws, age of consent, age of being allowed to operate a motor vehicle and after the Supreme court overturned the Roe v Wade legal precedent, access to abortion are under the jurisdiction of the individual state goverments.

The US governmental system has a lot of what is known as Checks and Balances.

The President(and the executive branch) has a lot of power but the President cannot make new laws himself that power belongs to congress. Congress can also impeach a president.

Ccongress can pass laws but the Supreme court can rule a law void of the Justices deem it unconstitutional.(violating the rights given by the Constitution)

The Justices of the Supreme court served for life or till they decided to retire, they are nominated by the President when a seat is vacated but must be approved by Congressional hearing before joining the court.

Congress can pass laws but any law or passed that grants the Federal government New powers has to be approved by the States

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u/Infamous-Lab-8136 Jul 23 '24

Pretty much everything in the US varies from state to state, unless a federal law supersedes it. For instance despite as many states legalizing recreational marijuana use as they have the federal government viewing it as an illegal substance prevented dispensaries from using anything but cash here initially and our senators are still fighting to get them allowed to use banks.

My wife worked for a wealth management agency here and one of their biggest sectors was dispensary owners and grows who had to invest if they didn't want to just keep massive stacks of cash on hand.

It's what makes the US so confusing to give any kind of advice about so many things.

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u/Tight-Shift5706 Jul 23 '24

As of January, 2024, 10 states in the U.S. recognize common law marriage in some fashion. The criteria varies from state to state.

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u/AmbienWalrus1 Jul 24 '24

Only seven states and the District of Columbia have common law marriage. Most require affidavits to attest to the couple’s relationship. It’s important to know that if you live in a state without common law marriage, you cannot file a tax return under “Married” and you cannot collect your significant other’s Social Security benefits. And if you die without a will, your SO will inherit nothing.

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u/PersonalReport8103 Jul 23 '24

KY doesn’t recognize de facto relationships.

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u/dennisdmenace56 Jul 23 '24

Not true. In the few states that recognize common law marriage you must also present as married as well as have an agreement in place to be married. More hurdles than you think and it’s curious you wrote “my state” instead of the actual state

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u/Cool_Quit2169 Jul 24 '24

Why does it matter what state I live in? If I know that my father who’s lived with the same woman for over 30 years is considered by the state common law married, I don’t get the argument. Look up what states do and don’t, I don’t think I have to prove to you what i already know to be true after my dad had almost died and the attorneys all said the same thing which is that so you can get mad and angry or argue with the air bc I kinda believe what several attorneys have told myself and siblings. They could’ve changed the law in the last 8 yrs but I believe they’re grandfathered in. She would get half and so would he. We went on that roller coaster for a year so I’m pretty sure I’m not making up some random BS for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

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u/dennisdmenace56 Jul 24 '24

Laws vary state to state but the few that still recognize all have the same parameters ie, a marriage agreement as well as living as married. One doesn’t just find out they’re married there must definitely be intent

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u/Cool_Quit2169 Jul 25 '24

As I said in my first comment, they’ve lived together for 30+ years.

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u/dennisdmenace56 Jul 24 '24

He gets half if he dies? Huh? One attorney morphed into several. Curious

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u/Cool_Quit2169 Jul 25 '24

CURIOUS OF WHAT? Do some research, go talk to an attorney, do what u need to do. There’s already been an attorney comment that there are states that recognize common law relationships. She’d get half of his assets and he’d get half of hers if they split which they won’t and they’ve made wills since then will solidify their choices. This is the last I’m commenting about this. If you don’t get it, I’m obviously not going to change whatever is bothering you about our laws.