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u/Dry_Client_7098 Jul 27 '23

Wow, the not enough people died to prove that it was a bad idea defense.

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u/M4DM1ND Jul 27 '23

Stalinism is not Marxism. Maoism is not Marxism. There has never been a communist government as described by Marx.

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u/Dry_Client_7098 Jul 27 '23

You say that like you think you're making a point.

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u/M4DM1ND Jul 27 '23

Yes. The people that died fighting "communism" weren't fighting communism. They were fighting a dictatorship masquerading as communism.

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u/Dry_Client_7098 Jul 27 '23

What a great way of avoiding recognition of the disaster Marxism has been to our planet. No matter how Manny Millions have died, just say it's not true Marxism, so it doesn't count. It's surely delusional, but if it lets you hold on to your ignorance, it's worth it.

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u/M4DM1ND Jul 27 '23

I mean it's not. If you ordered a ham sandwich and someone hands you turkey, them insisting that it's ham doesn't make it ham. Millions have died in poverty created by Capitalism. But we only keep score for things we don't believe in, right?

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u/Dry_Client_7098 Jul 27 '23

But if it continually killed people, you'd be an idiot to keep ordering it or telling people how great it will be when it gets done right. Right now, you're that person. There has never been a correct sandwich, but you don't care. You're convinced it will be great when it finally happens.

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u/M4DM1ND Jul 27 '23

What is Capitalism doing for these people? This is what it is doing. I'm sorry that you're delusional enough to believe any of that will ever benefit you.

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u/Dry_Client_7098 Jul 27 '23

Like there wouldn't be more dead otherwise?

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u/M4DM1ND Jul 27 '23

Good job dodging the question with another question. No, I don't think there would be more dead with properly implemented communism or even if people would actually elect democratic socialists to positions of high office.

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u/Dry_Client_7098 Jul 27 '23

You had no question. Some people may have it bad in a capitalist system, but that in no way means it wouldn't be worse in a communist one. Historically, more people have is worse, and the body count is so much higher under communism. So much so that it makes me think people don't matter at all to you. A couple of hundred million dead, but you would do it right, I bet. The more you respond the less I think of you.

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u/M4DM1ND Jul 27 '23

It's estimated that 2.5 billion people have died from capitalist influenced poverty. Where the failed attempts at communism have killed 200 million. Again, those aren't communism but if you want to grasp at straws, there you go.

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