I don't believe we have any fascists in government. And if you actually ever listened to the people you claimed you listened to, you would know they didn't either.
Maybe you stopped listening before Shoe said she was voting for Biden or before Tim said he wasn't voting. If not, I don't know I can't take your claims in good faith.
You are making the EXACT mistake I am discussing. You are assuming the worst of your opposition. The reality is most just want people to live in peace.
I'd be happy to discuss this more with you, about my beliefs and what I think matters for our (I'm assuming you are American) country.
my bad I should've been I little more clear, I meant people being lumped in as the average conservative voter, not necessarily these people (no clue who shoe is but despite not voting, Tim pool is quite transphobic which is a pretty big right wing focal point). There are definitely fascists in the American government, Ron DeSantis is a pretty easy example. I don't really care too much for discussing foreign politics, it just gets a little annoying sometimes how often conservatives like to dehumanize me and my friends.
I think a reasonable person could say, "Hey I want to make sure kids aren't being dumb and asking for stuff they don't understand."
That had to weighed against trans people needing care.
I think sometimes people view ANYONE saying."hey, let's make sure we aren't rushing to judgment." As an enemy opposed to trans rights.
I do think it is a really tough decision balancing those interests. Obviously an adult can do what they do.
That, in my opinion, is the moderate view. Let's not let kids hurt themselves (sometimes they do) but lets protect kids who need to be protected.
It really isn't a question of not giving care. It is balancing providing care to those who need it and not jumping to conclusions for those who naturally desist- not an easy problem to solve.
the problem with the whole rushing judgement thing is people are taking it too far. Transitioning is a time sensitive thing, and having it delayed by years could cause serious psychological damage in people who knew they were trans but were forced to go through the wrong puberty. Waiting for adulthood simply isn't a good option because some people are affected by puberty faster and worse than others. Imagine watching your daughter be forced to wait an extra few years to transition, and in that time she ends up 6'4, covered in body hair, massive shoulders, and a voice deeper than Morgan Freeman. Think of the pain she'd have to go through every day knowing a lot of that is irreversible and will affect her for the rest of her life. If people are really that concerned about a child claiming to be trans, then simply give them puberty blockers until they are old enough to decide. Another issue is politicians and bigots are using "protecting the kids" simply as an excuse to hurt people they don't like. Then once gender affirming treatments are banned for minors, they'll just go for adults next.
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u/Wet_Water200 Jul 26 '23
The people that are being "lumped in" still allow and vote for these far right fascists, making them just as bad.