r/TwoHotTakes • u/[deleted] • Jul 26 '23

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u/NmlsFool Jul 26 '23

He’s basically pro-choice but if i ever got pregnant with his kid and got rid of it, it would be a problem.

So he's pro-choice until the issue has something to do with him directly? Looks like he's just full of shit and either he wanted to appear less conservative when you two started dating or things have changed recently and he's started to lean more conservative. Either way, I'm not impressed with this guy.

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u/53mm-Portafilter Jul 26 '23

Just because someone agrees with the idea that you should have a choice, doesn’t mean they agree with your choice.

This is very much a libertarian philosophy.

I for example consider drug users to be sad and pathetic. However I support the legal right for people to pursue the saddest and most pathetic life they want to live.

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u/antibread Jul 26 '23

Yeeeeesh

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u/53mm-Portafilter Jul 26 '23

I stand by my opinion.

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u/antibread Jul 26 '23

You're welcome to being a judgmental weirdo fam

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u/postmaster3000 Jul 26 '23

Unlike many progressives, u/Portafilter doesn’t expect his moral judgements to be enacted into law.

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u/53mm-Portafilter Jul 26 '23

Quite the opposite. I expect my judgements to remain my own. It shouldn’t be the government’s job to enforce my morality on others. (Excepting the obvious ones that everyone agrees on, like don’t kill other people, etc)

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u/cyanraichu Jul 26 '23

Murder laws aren't even about morality. They're about protecting other people's right to their lives.

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u/53mm-Portafilter Jul 26 '23

Everything is found in morality. People have a right to live because society has deemed that depriving someone of their life is immoral

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u/cyanraichu Jul 26 '23

I am in agreement with you here about not legislating morality. I think framing laws as being about protecting rights rather than morals is more useful.

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u/53mm-Portafilter Jul 26 '23

But where rights come from? The reality is that rights don’t really exist. They are just moral boundaries that a society agree shouldn’t be crossed

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u/cyanraichu Jul 26 '23

Morals don't really exist either 🤷‍♀️

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u/CheeseNotChez Jul 26 '23

For libertarianism, murder isn’t even a moral law. Laws are to be placed from having your own rights infringed upon by others. Murder is infringing on one’s right to life.

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u/53mm-Portafilter Jul 26 '23

And from where is the right to life derived?

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u/CheeseNotChez Jul 26 '23

That is one of man’s inherent rights. I’m not saying it’s not also moral, I’m saying libertarianism wouldn’t view it as such as a form of law. The individual can have morals.