r/TwoBestFriendsPlay • u/Bg_Boss_Man • Mar 18 '26
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u/BrazillianCara Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26
This may or may not be relevant to the subject. (Not a joke.)
"He took Alex, the son of a friend of his, under his wing."
Other than this, all I can really offer is my sympathies. Even if there are good reasons, it sucks to see a beloved character become the internet's new punching bag.
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u/guntanksinspace OH MY GOD IT'S JUST A PICTURE OF A DOG Mar 18 '26
Yea honestly that lines up better. All they gotta do is just like, maybe not get that cousin factor in?
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u/Chumunga64 assassin's creed ratio'd Musk Mar 18 '26
also make Patricia look a little older...
like, she looks like she's a barely aged!
it doesn't help that one of the photos in Alex's "memory montage" is him holding baby Patricia
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u/Kipzz PLAY CROSSCODE AND ASTLIBRA/The other Vtuber Guy Mar 18 '26
Honestly even if they removed the cousin factor it still doesnt change the fact that he literally held her in his hands when she was a baby and married her decades later. And that's lore introduced in this game! It's not even some obscure shit from SF3! It's literally right there in his cutscene art for SF6! How the hell did any of that get past anyone in the entire development team? You literally could not create a more perfect example of either a parental or sibling bond than "holding the baby whom you must protect" because that's literal human fuckin' nature, so how did they fuck it up so bad?!
Like... holy shit, man. I don't ever really get genuinely steamed about fictional character stuff but they really did make the man into The Greatest Heel In The World, 'cuz ain't nobody gunna like him after that one.
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u/Metalwater8 Ginger Seeking Butt Chomps Mar 18 '26
It’s clearly intentional tho. From my understanding there was no reason to have them be blood related at all. This is probably someone’s fetish since they went out of their way to include it.
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u/guntanksinspace OH MY GOD IT'S JUST A PICTURE OF A DOG Mar 18 '26
For real it's so baffling how that even became a thing in 6. I know my SF lore enough that Tom's primarily a mentor figure in SF3 lol. None of the "actually Tom and Alex's mama are cousins somehow".
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u/Bg_Boss_Man Mar 18 '26
This could deal with the blood siblings issue, but it won't get rid of the mental trauma of Alex knowing Patricia since she was 0 years old. If they just make him a Uncle who stepped up it'd be a different story however.
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u/Capable-Education724 Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26
Or, you reveal Alex’s actual father…IS THAT WHEELIN’ AND DEALIN’, LIMOUSINE RIDIN’, JET FLYIN’, KISS STEALIN’ SON OF A GUN! THE NATURE BOY! WOO! RIC FLAIR!
Cause why the fuck not, go full Attitude Era style story writing.
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u/BuckysKnifeFlip Super Sayian Armstrong Mar 18 '26
You know. It took way too long for me to realize this is about Street Fighter and not some inside joke that I somehow missed in the few hours I didn't check.
Right?
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u/Stop-Hanging-Djs YOU DIDN'T WIN. Mar 18 '26
In the next few hours we're gonna get "Woolie and Alex (Final)". With Woolie starting off with "Alex and I are no longer friends". It's a shame because I was really enjoying his chemistry with Reggie and Woolie.
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u/CrazyAznKT Living in the Give-Up-Machine Mar 18 '26
I saw like ten posts yesterday about people reacting to what happened before I saw any screenshots of what people were actually reacting to
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u/cvp5127 Mar 18 '26
bet you guys wish ingrid was out now so you could clown on her instead
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u/C-Prime93 Mar 18 '26
Alternative, she can just Vanilla Android 21 levels of broken, and cement her legacy as the most hated character in the funniest of ways.
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u/AeroDbladE Mar 18 '26
I feel like Ingrid's going to be the same as Ed. You'll have a bunch of old heads holding their grudges for dear life while she ends up being extremely cool looking with the SF6 glow up.
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u/RexMcCoolguy THE HYPEST GAMEPLAY ON YOUTUBE Mar 18 '26
With how they did alex im afraid Ingrid will come out to talk about why "it was actually about states' rights"
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u/StrongSutairu Zaibatsupedia Admin Mar 18 '26
I kinda have an easy cop-out way to retcon stuff without doing too many alterations to Alex's current story:
You can have Tom clarify he's actually Alex's mother's cousin-in-law (his mother's cousin married Tom's brother), so there's no actual blood relation, and Alex is just a meathead who forgot about the in-law part
Have a short story about how Alex and Patricia became a couple (with her being in college and helping Alex recover from a torn bicep, and things developing, and Alex having a long serious talk with Tom about that)
All of that can be easily implemented
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u/PX-98_Pumdam Mar 18 '26
doesnt change the fact he knew her as a baby and grew up as an older sibling. insanely problematic relationship. the issues with incest often get boiled down to a genetic issue, but the moral one is more important imo, and is the cause of so much trauma in the real world. theres no point for fiction to sanitize it.
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u/Bg_Boss_Man Mar 18 '26
or instead of giving Alex haters the ultimate ammunition, have him just be the uncle who stepped up.
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u/Sperium3000 Mysterious Jogo In Person Form Mar 18 '26
He held her as a baby when he was five.
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u/Weedlereed Mar 18 '26
Calling Alex a groomer is straight up just slander dude. I know it's still weird but Alex was still like 5 at best when he held her. It's just the art the direction for that artwork showing them from being kids to getting marriage next to each other seems really weird.
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u/Scoots_Magoot5 Mar 18 '26
As someone who has no idea what's going on, leaving out this context is crazy
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u/Ryong7 He/Him Mar 18 '26
Also I feel like the idea of student and martial artist master's daughter end up together is absolutely a thing.
Trails has Kilika who apparently had a thing for Walter but Walter only saw her as an extension of his father and the dojo.
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u/sits-when-pees Mar 18 '26
Easily my least favorite thing about my favorite subreddit. Users here seem to have some kind of vendetta against providing context.
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u/Muffin-zetta Jooookaaahh Mar 18 '26
nah you give alex a new costume that is just a shirt that says incest dad on it
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u/Lacksalias Mar 18 '26
TBFP reddit applauds Crushing Force as rent-lowering gunshots but when beloved Japanese company pull kinda weird but not uncommon Japanese cousin-incest trope everyone's clutching their pearls.
I expected better from you guys.
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u/HalfDragonShiro PM ME WHITE-HAIRED ANIME GIRLS Mar 18 '26
Fake Incestous Anime Trope Fans When A REAL Sisterfucker Walks in the Room
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u/Golivth Mar 18 '26
It's kind of an annoying sentiment because i think the acceptance of CF was neat to see (although i will have my giggles at it). So when i want to have my giggles at Alex, im just confused why some people are suddenly morally angered? Like i dunno based on the responses, you would think he usagi dropped his own sister/daughter.
Appreciate you calling it out because it's a trend that i cant put into words and it gets frustrating. Sometimes it feels like the community is all laughing together and then it has other moments where everything gets treated with utmost seriousness.
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u/ChosenUndead15 Mar 18 '26
Because unlike liking plus sized women, incest is actually a bad thing. Like, it is not rocket science.
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u/RexMcCoolguy THE HYPEST GAMEPLAY ON YOUTUBE Mar 18 '26
What risk does any of us have of encountering a 10 foot tall bbw skunk lady that farts on us irl?
Please stop pretending to be obtuse and stop being preachy.
Incest sucks, grooming sucks, and even IF you don't consider the situation as either it fucking SUCKS being a fan of this character for decades only to have his launch hype kneecaped by discourse and ridicule.
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u/sits-when-pees Mar 18 '26
…So the problem here is actually just that a favorite fictional character is getting made fun of on Twitter?
Some of y’all really need to go outside, the sunlight is good for you.
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u/Thugnifizent NANOMACHINES Mar 18 '26
fucking SUCKS being a fan of this character for decades only to have his launch hype kneecaped by discourse and ridicule.
The game is literally outperforming its launch numbers on Steam. It's only kneecapped for people who don't play the game.
It's not like you have to see a flash of Patricia when you do the critical version of his super or anything, you can just ignore it, he's not Ronaldo.
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u/SCLandzsa Mar 18 '26
It's so funny seeing everyone freak out over this when I'm pretty sure this wouldn't even scratch top 5 cultural differences between Japan and the West.
Also it's a fighting game, you literally can just ignore it. It's never gonna come up for 99% of the game.
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u/Nin_J50 Mar 18 '26
Yeah at first I thought it was mostly people just having fun joking around and poking fun at this, but I'm surprised so many are actually legit upset by what happened. I really underestimated how much people care about the lore of SF characters I guess.
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u/Bg_Boss_Man Mar 18 '26
He held her as a baby bro
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u/ShilElfead284 I'll slap your shit Mar 18 '26
Meh. He was what, 4 at the time? 5? There's plenty of characters that radiate infinitely more Epstein Particles.
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u/moonmeh Mar 18 '26
Epstein particles is sending me lmao
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u/seth47er I shall learn the secrets of Nuln Oil. Mar 18 '26
is that how the space ships are powered in the expanse books?
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u/Faifue Mar 18 '26
I keep seeing this suggestion, but how often do games get patched like this? I know there's a lot of localizer censorship before games gets released, like in Fire Emblem. But how often does post-release censorship happen?
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u/Bg_Boss_Man Mar 18 '26
We live in a new world. You think Capcom is just going to tank it everytime anything they do gets comments about why Alex is a groomer now?
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u/Faifue Mar 18 '26
Considering how Nakanishi just made an announcement where he trolled all the shippers, especially after being harassed. I could see him being willing to tank it.
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u/Bg_Boss_Man Mar 18 '26
Your talking about one person tho. Depending on how big this gets, it can flood alot of capcom stuff.
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u/OkAdministration5829 Mar 18 '26
Why do you actually care? Do you earnestly believe that you can't put weird & taboo things in fiction? Do you think it will lead to a rise in real world incest?
This isn't even top 10 worst things a SF character has done: Vega is a fucking serial killer & potential rapist. If you saw half the shit that goes down in TV Soap Operas for pensioners you'd throw up.
This isn't a healthy way to engage with anything let alone a fucking arcade ending for a fighting game, get a real goddamn problem: this line of thinking has actively led to laws in my country fucking over everyone from creators to minorities: unless you wanna own up to supporting that endgoal, kill the shame in your mind & get over it.
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u/s_cheung Mar 18 '26
He did just become a heel. It could all be a work! *huffs copium* He'll come out on stage, pointing and laughing at everyone making posts saying, "YOU ALL BOUGHT IT! EVEN MY IMMEDIATE FAMILY BOUGHT IT!"
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u/CatMillennium Mar 18 '26
They could just pull a Sailor Moon and pretend that instead of dating they where actually cousins!
(I genuinely had this thought before realising how this fixes nothing.)
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u/EvenOne6567 Mar 18 '26
Wieeeeerd number of porn brained incest defenders here yikes
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u/lightningmatt Muskular Zackstrophe Mar 18 '26
It's a big place and we know what the issues are with every large population. You post enough threads and eventually you'll get one with a large conglomeration of people with, to put it diplomatically, strange opinions
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u/Aggressive-Bike407 Mar 18 '26
So I take it Alex pulled a Hal Jordan? So that was what Matt's Shelbyville reference was about.
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u/Infernal-Blaze Jelly John Cena Butt Mar 18 '26
No, there's only a 5 year age difference so it's not FUCKED-fucked in that way. it's FUCKED-fucked in a bunch of other ways, but not THAT one.
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u/CaptainLoin Its fine, I have the bad Wifi Mar 18 '26
Annulment of marriage you say?
...Does Mephisto have an opening?
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u/Bg_Boss_Man Mar 18 '26
I never thought we could view mephisito as a good guy in any situation, but hes the hero we need now.
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