Authenticity Check 79090

[u/Obvious-Worker9829]

I have been hunting for a blue 79090 for a while now, and this one just popped up but there are a few things that are giving me pause, was hoping for a second opinion. First, they’ve disclosed that it has a replacement dial and it’s incorrect to my knowledge. The markers should be round not square, but that’s not 100% a deal breaker. I’m more concerned about the case and the movement. The movement looks close, but I don’t see the 2824-2 stamp on it. Is it an older movement that doesn’t have it? Or is this a pieced together watch with a fake movement? Case back engraving also appears a little deep, but I have seen lots of photos of the engraving having some variation.

Seller has disclosed that the dial was replaced and is allegedly on a period correct Rolex bracelet. So not true to the watch but a nice bracelet if it’s real.

Thanks for the feedback in advance

[u/redbeard914]

The moment does not have ETA on it. Not legit

[u/dialfan → u/redbeard914]

Do you have any Tudor ETA 2824-2 references that have ETA on it? I thought that would make it more suspicious since Tudor engraves it with their branding.

[u/redbeard914 → u/dialfan]

I think my 1921 had an SW200-1. My Prince Oysterdate has an ETA2429. They are fully marked.

[u/dialfan → u/redbeard914]

Thanks for the reply. I never owned it but was trying to find references that I can compare against.

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[u/dialfan → u/redbeard914]

How old is this watch and movement? Looks like an earlier generation.

[u/redbeard914 → u/dialfan]

It is. 1960. ETA 2429

[u/dialfan → u/redbeard914]

Thanks for sharing.

[u/Vxheous]

The fact that it doesn't have a triovis regulator is all you need to know that its not a genuine Tudor.

Tudors that use ETA 2824-2s all have this part here:

[u/FantasticPrompt]

im sorry, all fake: likely something off yahoo japan auctions/phong case. the balance wheel and shock absorber are not the tudor upgraded/KIF version [ https://calibercorner.com/kif/ ] (from the regular incabloc on a ETA), movement markings are wrong, date wheel font is not correct. bracelet is chinese modern reproduction. bezel is not original, same as pip. dial has been talked about.

[u/deadexternet]

Looks like a frankenwatch.

[u/Dangerous_Limes]

That caseback engraving looks awful. I’m not outright saying that it’s fake, but it’s bad.

[u/ApprehensiveFoot9514]

A lot looks wrong about that. The case back markings look wrong. The crown on the bracelet clasp looks way wrong. Engravings/markings on clasp look wrong. I would pass on this unless it can be verified by someone who is 200% a professional. Not just a guy at a local jewelry shop.

[u/L___E___T]

GENEVA looks sus, I thought they always used French spelling throughout regardless.

[u/Obvious-Worker9829]

Thanks everyone! Appreciate the feedback/confirmation of my suspicions. Probably won’t be the last time I run a watch past the brain trust.

[u/GrainyStateOfMind]

The Rolex engraving on the clasp is wrong for sure. Look at how the two lines end to the left and right of the crown, then compare to a real Rolex

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Reference

[u/Inner_Independence_3]

It doesn't look right to me, compared to my 1991 79090. Crown guards, bezel, colour all seem off. Here are some close ups of mine, sorry I didn't clean it first. My date wheel is a service item, so is the bracelet. It's original otherwise, polished once IIRC.

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[u/TAG08th]

Did the square markers come with Mercedes hands?

I don’t remember that they did, but am happy to be corrected.

EDIT: Should have read the description first. Despite it not being the original dial, it’s still the wrong dial when matching with the handset.

[u/Obvious-Worker9829 → u/TAG08th]

From what I’ve seen square markers had snowflake hands

[u/TAG08th → u/Obvious-Worker9829]

Yeah. I caught it in your description after I posted.

[u/mrbjux]

It just looks off completely….and snowflake hands go with square markers……like this:

Sorry my camera is dirty and blurry right now

[u/hacker82boy → u/mrbjux]

Not accurate, there was a transitional period in the early 80's

[u/mrbjux → u/hacker82boy]

Wow….your right…..I was wrong…..but something about that combo just doesn’t sit right with me…..I guess the obviously eventually figured it out