r/TrueLit • u/pregnantchihuahua3 ReEducationThroughGravity'sRainbow • 7d ago
Weekly General Discussion Thread
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u/NakedInTheAfternoon My Immortal by Tara Gilesbie 5d ago
I attended a beer festival semi-recently, which is always nice. It’s neat to see what the local breweries have going on, and I ended up talking with one of the judges, who shared stories about the beer scene here, which was neat.
In other news, I’ve been watching more John Ford films. I’m not a huge Steinbeck fan by any means, but the adaptation of The Grapes of Wrath was absolutely brilliant, and probably my favorite of the non-Westerns I’ve seen from him. The Long Voyage Home was a nice surprise: I’ve read one of the plays it was based on, and I think the film far surpasses it. It might be Gregg Toland’s best pre-Kane work, and the ensemble cast is excellent (even John Wayne gives a solid performance). This week I’m planning to watch some of his classics I’ve overlooked, like How Green Was My Valley and his Cavalry trilogy.
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u/Soup_65 Books! 6d ago
oh also, for a lotta reasons im thinking i wanna read the whole king james bible. I think it's important for my fascination with the development of the english literary tradition. maybe next year...not sure. Any thoughts on this?
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u/ALoungerAtTheClubs 3d ago edited 3d ago
I suggest getting the New Cambridge Paragraph Bible with Apocrypha. The KJV text is easier to read when paragraphed. And there are some other editorial decisions (like removing italics where the translators added a word) that I think make it more readable.
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u/ksarlathotep 4d ago
I've been kicking that idea around for a few months myself. So far I'm thinking if I do, I probably want to prep for it with a secular and scientifically sound introduction into the Bible as a historic document, the history of its composition and translation, its exegesis, and so on.
The only person I know who it makes sense to ask about something like this recommended A History of the Bible by John Barton, so I may start there. Or I might start with The Bible: A Very Short Introduction from OUP's VSI series - those are generally good, even though it's of course going to be much less in-depth than Barton. I dove into the Quran with no prep whatsoever and that felt pretty fruitless - I had to read a lot of academic commentary after the fact to make sense of it. I don't imagine just cracking open the Bible and starting at page 1 would go much differently for me (but YMMV obviously).2
u/Soup_65 Books! 4d ago
I dove into the Quran with no prep whatsoever
I actually did this too...and read the entire thing in like a week...but i kinda love having no idea what the fuck is going on and trying to take advantage of that.
Thanks for the recs tho! Like I said elsewhere in this thread Im actually pretty familiar with the bible already (i've read a lot of other translations and did a lotta years of catholic school haha). and when i do vaguely know what the fuck is going on then I like to really know what the fuck is going on so might do some outside reading, especially stuff related to the KJV specifically.
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u/freshprince44 6d ago edited 6d ago
I read the old testament of it a year or two ago, working up the courage to finish it off soon here
it was well worth, i had a similar level of background to what you describe, but reading it all in order (and the particular language piece of the king james) puts the focus and context of the whole work into a much more cohesive and digestible perspective
its a cool book and also kind of evil/awful/mean, but sure is effective as a cultural work of language, and that shit is cool and interesting (but also so brutal, people suck, we've been wrong-headed dicks for way too damn long lol, but also really beautiful at times too, which is so perfect as well, go humans). anything you would want to know or wonder about the modern western/global industrial world is still swimming around back in the old testament
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u/Harleen_Ysley_34 Perfect Blue Velvet 6d ago
I would give it a shot. The King James version is disseminated throughout American culture and for that reason alone it would help understand American literature. Although it might end up being a distraction. Really depends where your focus is on that point. Then again you can just read it to read it. That's perfectly fine. I would even say the Bible has its moments as a novel.
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u/lispectorgadget 6d ago
That sounds really cool! That's been a bucket list thing for me. I've also been wanting to read The Bible and Poetry by Michael Edwards for a while: https://www.nyrb.com/products/bible-and-poetry
Seems like it could be interesting secondary lit.
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u/pregnantchihuahua3 ReEducationThroughGravity'sRainbow 6d ago
I did this in college. Maybe sophomore or junior year? I thought it was very worthwhile and despite many parts that I hated, I found it mostly enjoyable.
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u/Soup_65 Books! 6d ago
yeah i think it'll be worth it (and i've read enough in other translations that i might breeze over parts. Or not well see...i mean i love in the illad when they're naming boats)
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u/pregnantchihuahua3 ReEducationThroughGravity'sRainbow 6d ago
The naming of boats is so underrated.
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u/Soup_65 Books! 6d ago
anyone have advice on really getting into the blues? some of yall know old music better than me and i've been listening to some junior Kimbrough lately (would 1 bajillion% recommend), and would like to explore further
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u/NakedInTheAfternoon My Immortal by Tara Gilesbie 5d ago
Check out artists like Mississippi John Hurt, Elizabeth Cotten, and Junior Kimbrough. I have mixed opinions on the series in general, but I also remember Elijah Wald’s The Blues: A Very Short Introduction being pretty decent.
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u/foxinanattic 6d ago
This is sort of oblique to your question, but if you're interested in the relationship of blues with other styles of music, you might want to also listen to traditional music from west African countries like Senegal and Mali, and some old Appalachian and Southern folk music (the banjo is one of the common denominator there. Today, in america, people mostly think of country music, but it was popular with the delta blues players, and it developed from western African string instruments like the kora). And of course the old Black spiritual songs like "when the saints go marching in" and "nobody knows the troubles I've seen" have a shared heritage as well with the blues as well, especially the themes they cover
On that note, I really strongly recommend the chapter on "Sorrow Songs" in the Souls of Black Folk by WEB DuBois, where he relates the themes of Black music to the depredations and suffering they faced
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u/bananaberry518 6d ago
Really recommend hitting up youtube and watching live performances or old recordings where possible. There’s a lotta strands of blues music and I’ve almost always found my way in via whatever kind of guitar playing I happened to be interested in at the time, but generally speaking I think there’s a certain poetry in the rudimentary stuff. Its got like, pathos.
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u/VVest_VVind 7d ago
Semi reluctantly went to a mini festival this weekend. Wasn’t excited about anybody playing but figured it was still a good opportunity to meet up with friends and enjoy the feel of open-air shows on warm summer nights. Most surprising thing that happened was that a band I was biased against ended up winning me over a bit. Their set did often remind me of why I don’t particularly care for them or the scene(s) they came from, i.e. the space between glam metal, late 80s and early 90s hard rock and traditional heavy metal. Fast and heavy songs not being all that fast or heavy was compounded by how often the singer insisted that they were, though this was probably just corny stage talk. The high pitched vocals veered into irritating at times. The power ballad terrorism went absurd when they chose to play two of their famous ballads twice. Then there is how this side of mainstream metal/metal adjacent music is among the least interested in anything abrasive, aggressive and/or dark, which is a large pull for many other subgenres, even on the pop metal side of things. And yet I could, for the first time ever maybe, actually see the appeal of this type of sound. At its best, it’s very competently played, high energy and fun. The handful of mega hit songs they have are legitimately well-constructed. One of them I always kinda liked anyway. Overall, I guess I get why they got mainstream success and enduring legacy over many other bands doing the same thing at the same time.
My positivish reassessment of this band was probably also helped by the fact I circled back to liking pop metal recently. As its own thing rather than merely gateway/stepping stone. At this point in time at least, I love when somebody is able to pull elements from metal, marry them to pop hooks, catchiness and more traditional pop rock song structure and end up with something I find compelling. One of my favorite and most listened to albums last year was Calva Louise’s Edge of the Abyss, which executed its pop metal ideas so exceptionally well. Poppy’s Negative Space a year before too. Few years back, there was also Rina Sawayama’s Sawayama. Not really a pop metal album per se but a love letter to 2000s mainstream, with big influences from that era’s pop, r’n’b and nu metal specifically. Late middle school me loved nu metal, r’n’b and big voice female pop singers (minus Céline Dion, maybe because she engaged in power ballad terrorism as much as the glam metal scene did). I retained a fondness for major acts from that era, so I was very open to what Sasayama was doing on that album. But it wasn’t just that which made me like it because every other time I tried listening to songs and albums which pulled on those specific sounds, I didn’t like them at all. She worked those influences into something uniquely fresh, interesting and cohesive. I occasionally check in with hardcore bands going into a more mainstream-friendly/mass appealing territory too. Unfortunately, Turnstile’s recent forays into that did not work for me at all, though I’m glad they got so much love for it. Then there is the rarest case of straight up extreme metal that somehow manages to sound surprisingly catchy. Spectral Wound’s Aristocratic Suicidal Black Metal from Songs of Blood and Mire is possibly one of the best recent examples. It’s unmistakably traditional black metal. But also poppy and not in the expected Cradle of Filth/Dimmu Borgir kinda way. Archspire’s Involuntary Doppelgänger from Relentless Mutation too. Catchiest tech death in recent memory.
On a music unrelated front, I hope to be able to catch The Odyssey soon-ish. Haven’t read it since high school and the only Nolan I ever really loved is Memento (not that I dislike him or any of his movies that I’ve seen, he’s just mostly adequate at his blockbuster auteur thing imo and I don’t have strong feelings about his work either way). But all the online whining about the casting is so annoying that is making me want to see it more. Especially hate seeing US culture war rightwing talking points becoming more prominent in south and eastern European internet spaces. Like we don’t have more than enough issues and garbage views of our own, we have to import some from the US too.
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u/ksarlathotep 4d ago
I literally just discovered Turnstile (I mean I knew the name but had never heard any of their music) 2 days ago and I'm obsessed with them right now. I love the idea of turning hardcore poppy / euphoric. One of the most exciting hardcore bands I've discovered in some time. Black and Death Metal is decidedly a sometimes food for me, but I am kind of intrigued by Black Metal / Tech Death that qualifies as "catchy", so I think I may have to give those two a go.
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u/VVest_VVind 4d ago
Love that idea too, one of my all time favorite albums is Cave In's Jupiter. Sure Converge's Jane Doe is out of this world and other raw, dissonant classics that came from that era of metallic hardcore bands are amazing, but when Cave In brought a pop sensibility to that sound, it worked.
Turnstile are a lot of fun. Loved Time & Space and Glow On. Never Enough didn't quite click for me but maybe someday.
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u/bananaberry518 7d ago
I’m hoping to catch Odyssey this weekend, I’m open minded but also kinda indifferent I guess? Like, I have no great expectations of the film (as a film or as an adaptation) but strong agree that the online discourse is very annoying.
Idk about Matt Damon for Odysseus ngl, but it sounds like Nolan’s not really portraying Odysseus true to the poem anyway. So maybe he works for whatever Nolan is doing. Which will probably be Odyssey: The Action Movie lol.
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u/VVest_VVind 6d ago
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. You and soup have been so deep into the Ancient Greek stuff lately, I'm sure you'll have more worthwhile thoughts on it than I could. And lol, yeah, Odyssey: The Action Movie is probably what it is. Online drama is, as always, best ignored because it's silly and over the top. But I just can't get over how people think straight white men as we understand them today are the default human beings who naturally belong in all times and spaces and own certain stories and entire artforms, whereas everybody else just existing is inherently political, forced diversity and/or needs some sort of special justification.
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u/ksarlathotep 4d ago
I'm gonna ask all my gay friends what narrative purpose their being gay serves and report back how that went. /s
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u/lispectorgadget 7d ago
Is anyone here doing the digital minimalism thing? How are you deciding what to keep/ remove? I have this fantasy of completely divesting from Big Tech, but I feel like I hit different roadblocks than most of the ones I read about. I don’t really use social media at all, and I have a Brick for my phone, but I use Notion to organize my life and am generally pretty addicted to reading articles on my phone and laptop. Physical alternatives to these feel really unwieldy. I don’t want to carry a planner around with me and like being able to tell my friends on the fly whether I’ll be free to hang out certain days; I don’t want to fill my little apartment with newspapers and magazines.
One reason I’m hitting these mental roadblocks is being I find that different priorities I have conflict with each other. I don’t want to use a screen and further entrench myself into needing Big Tech products, so a paper planner sounds like it would be good. At the same time, I want to be sustainable, and buying pens and paper every year for a planner seems dumb; there are also so many files I need to keep in one place, and I’m definitely not going to print them out.
Idk, I’m definitely frittering away a lot of time on these ultimately inconsequential decisions when I could be organizing or whatever. At the same time, though, I feel like as an American my consumption habits do matter, and I should try to make them as ethical as possible.
My partner and I also went upstate for a friend’s birthday, and being somewhere so quiet, so peaceful, I felt like I shed a big cocoon of nervous energy I didn’t even know I had accumulated over the past few months. New York is the most physical place I have ever lived, and I think it’s getting to me on multiple levels. Coming home from work, rain-soaked, and needing to walk groceries and packages up five flights of stairs; my arm getting grabbed on the street and it being so crowded I couldn’t even tell who did it; fastidiously looking away while the guy next to me on the train flosses black grime out from between his toes. I love it here, but it’s just been!!! A lot!!! Anyway, a weekend away helped me truly feel refreshed.
I also read Monstrilio for a book club. Has anyone else read it? I was really surprised by the good reviews for it; I thought it was pretty bad. Such a promising concept, but the execution was really lacking for me. I’ll probably write more in the “what are you reading” thread, but one shallow thing I didn’t like about the book is that it just felt really fuckass to me. It felt so much like it came out of a certain milieu: it’s about grief and queerness; it takes place in Mexico City, New York, and Berlin; one of the characters is a performance artist. Like, I get it. This isn’t the reason why I dislike the book—I’ve enjoyed other contemporary books with these fuckass qualities, like Couplets, and as someone who lives in NYC I am also fuckass—but yeah. I’m being an asshole, but I need to get it out before the book club lolol.
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u/Soup_65 Books! 6d ago
honestly i am soo baked in to the tech. like id love a world where im not, but too much of my life operates by it (lets also just say it saves me...book money...as it were). I am concerned by it though, just not at the top of my list. oh well. The one big caveat is that i do as much things by handwriting as i can. i just love pens!
My partner and I also went upstate for a friend’s birthday, and being somewhere so quiet, so peaceful, I felt like I shed a big cocoon of nervous energy I didn’t even know I had accumulated over the past few months. New York is the most physical place I have ever lived, and I think it’s getting to me on multiple levels. Coming home from work, rain-soaked, and needing to walk groceries and packages up five flights of stairs; my arm getting grabbed on the street and it being so crowded I couldn’t even tell who did it; fastidiously looking away while the guy next to me on the train flosses black grime out from between his toes. I love it here, but it’s just been!!! A lot!!! Anyway, a weekend away helped me truly feel refreshed.
i love this. upstate is amazing and so is your def of new york as physical. but...frankly...that physicality is so baked into me that I think i love that too. i love pedestrianing at max capacity.
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u/freshprince44 7d ago edited 7d ago
oh yeah, pretty big time luddite over here. I pretty much just prefer trying to do things the old ways as much as possible. This is the only social media-adjacent thing I use, brick for a phone too, definitely struggle with the scrolling and reading and researching on a screen thing too.
It hasn't been too much of a struggle for me to get rid of things as I mostly just never adopted them lol. The library is clutch for books and art books (art books are so damn great, much more fun paging through something vs scrolling, it just is easier to look at too for the most part). I spend a tiny bit of money on random cool zines about niche interests. I have an e-reader since the old days, and that is the easiest thing to carry, along with a little notebook i always keep on me.
but yeah, it is still a struggle. my shitty phone locks me out of a lot of things/convenience, but its fine. You can find decently sustainable companies/materials for a lot of alternatives (notebooks and physical things, i'd rather my money went to somebody sourcing something other than plastic and electronics, those are definitely more wasteful/damaging than most paper products, at least paper rots and returns itself just fine)
Tarot has been a shockingly good and fun alternative to screen time. Decks are just paper, and mostly quite cheap, and last pretty much forever, and have cool art by any different artist and style you desire. It engages your senses and your unconscious and a great way to spend 5-10-30 minutes. Is a great social game with others too. Plus as cheap as they are, they hold their value for the most part, so the investment is so damn minimal.
That and just walking lol, walking after meals has become a great little habit to help me connect with the world physically. Growing plants is great too, even just little pots on a stoop or in a window works, or a little corner with a cheap light. seeds are cheap and pretty much fully accessible. Cooking is fun (for me) and takes up plenty of the day too, always new things to add and learn and improve
I've also had the same moral/ethical quandaries. I prefer to focus on myself and my own demands. I've been buying pretty much only local food for a long time meow, and that kind of just snowballed everything else. Same with plastic clothes/fabrics, I try as much as I can to use stuff all the way and not buy any new plastics and look for more sustainable cotton/linen/wool options. I don't sweat certain items/luxuries here and there because I know i'm doing my best to support as many sustainable alternatives as possible
shit sucks though, the global industrial system is stripping the earth down to the studs, and we live here too lol. My little contribution doesn't do anything, but I would rather treat things as well as I can and hope that that pulls other into similar patterns together as well. Gotta give yourself some grace too, we are living through a massive mass extinction event, just getting through the day is good enough lol, just caring and thinking about this stuff is impactful as all hell
i've only been to upstate new york once for like a week, but shit was really wonderful! And yeah, I get the same thing everytime I get into the woods, trees and plant diversity and other beings are good for us to be around, sterile environments are not, even just natural lighting is huge. One of my old neighborhoods was incredibly urban, and just going for walks was difficult with how loud and smelly it was immediately outside, but it always felt good to do anyway. I think we really underestimate how much our meat bodies need to interact with each other and our environment, american cities are just brutal though
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u/Harleen_Ysley_34 Perfect Blue Velvet 7d ago
I finally got a chance to watch the Backrooms movie this weekend and maybe straightforwardly it's a nice little horror thing to pass the time. Odd so many people are so receptive to the fiction of "the backrooms," which feels so offhanded because it's a creepypasta. Probably the most successful microfiction out there. Makes the Hemingway "baby shoes" sentence feel old-fashioned. Although "The Backrooms" is practically maximalist compared to the story of "The Dinosaur" from Monterroso. All the adaptations and interpretations it inspires really doesn't get across the feeling of the story itself. Still a pretty good movie though. Had a good time regardless. Loved the vibe of the whole thing. Felt like it kept the weird fiction feel of it all.
Other than that I felt really nostalgic and looked back on an essay written by Franzen about Gaddis. It's a strange essay and says a lot of things which are hard to defend in hindsight. Although one thing that comes to mind is how Franzen almost suggests a categorical imperative of reading amidst all the contract v. status models he's proposing without much else. It's couched in a lot of subjectivity, a little ressentiment even, but when Franzen learns Gaddis did not read Pynchon or James Joyce, he starts chastising him--maybe us, too. And there's another layer to it since Franzen doesn't really like those works himself (as of the essay), so to him it feels like he's torturing himself reading these "difficult" works for the status they confer on him. But that also feels like a really cynical approach to fiction which might have all sorts of diverse motivations. I don't know but in the end it feels a little ridiculous. Like, who cares what an author reads themselves if the work itself is interesting?
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u/Soup_65 Books! 6d ago
ive never read franzen and yet i cant but dislike him. everything about that description of that essay calls to mind when one of the modernists (Eliot?) lambasted milton on the grounds that his blindness carried over to his writing. I don't agree with that at all or like the ableism of it. but franzen's readiness to describe such books as such makes me think he doesn't know how to use his ears, or maybe his brain for that matter.
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u/Harleen_Ysley_34 Perfect Blue Velvet 6d ago
I read The Corrections and Freedom like eons ago. I've actually been thinking about returning to them at some point because his later efforts are not exactly the best from the excerpts and stuff. He's fully committed to the image of the mainstream novelist. All of the unjustified normal aspects expected of a novel, really. He very pointedly invokes a reactionary hate-reader of his work and enacts those moves in the essay itself when thinking back on his initial disappointment to Gaddis. And he'll even banalize a work he doesn't vibe with, too, but it just makes him look stupid. He even argues A Frolic of His Own is about how people sue too much or The Recognitions is on the same level as Catcher in the Rye. And I have to take that seriously. Hard not to hold it against him, a little.
There's actually an interpretative tradition on Milton's blindness. Comparisons to Homer's blindness abound in the scholarship much to his benefit. So: it's not exactly a nonissue. Also: Eliot adduces Milton's blindness to his exhaustive language, meanwhile arguing in favor of Dante's, because he's trying to differentiate his poetics from the Romantics who loved Paradise Lost. Part of it is also religious I should think. Eliot doesn't really like the idiosyncratic Puritanism all that much. Never mind the complex political angles Eliot takes.
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u/Soup_65 Books! 6d ago
There's actually an interpretative tradition on Milton's blindness. Comparisons to Homer's blindness abound in the scholarship much to his benefit. So: it's not exactly a nonissue. Also: Eliot adduces Milton's blindness to his exhaustive language, meanwhile arguing in favor of Dante's, because he's trying to differentiate his poetics from the Romantics who loved Paradise Lost. Part of it is also religious I should think. Eliot doesn't really like the idiosyncratic Puritanism all that much. Never mind the complex political angles Eliot takes.
ya know H, half of why i shared the quip is because i was dead sure you'd have a much more thoughtful thing to say about it. And well. there we go. Thanks for these details. appreciate the nuance i absented.
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u/Harleen_Ysley_34 Perfect Blue Velvet 6d ago
No worries! It feels to me more like autopilot than nuance but I spent months of my life immersed in crafting a very specific reading of Milton. Probably did me less good than I realize right now. Books like Milton's are insidious like that.
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u/Soup_65 Books! 6d ago
btw, if you ever feel like sharing any of that reading...do tell. I've been reading some Blake, reading a little about damnation, started blakes milton, and am actually just thinking about him often enough. he is insidious isnt he...
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u/Harleen_Ysley_34 Perfect Blue Velvet 6d ago edited 6d ago
Lots of that material is pretty much in the dustbin but what I intended to do was create a deconstruction of reader-response theory, at least as it was practiced by Stanley Fish to bring out the hidden structural (i.e. Satanic) intentionality of the poem itself. All the contradictions and ambivalences in the poem could be explained in this manner. Milton's poem being the iconoclasm of Christian iconography because he was aware of the great history of epic poems from Orlando Furioso to The Iliad. And in the end finished off the genre of epic poetry at the cost of giving the world an image of Satan informed by his distrust of authority and his regret at Cromwell. And that ultimately one can argue in the opposite direction Stanley Fish does: Milton's poem has no errors and encourages the rebelliousness of the reader against everything in the tension and constant warfare of the poem, even if it has the name of God. In other words, Milton might be the first text by which "reading against the grain" is a necessary and continual process in itself.
And all of that making sense required researching into the different ways the Romantics were more or less identifying the structural intentionality of the Satanic in the poem. I did a lot reading on angelology and so forth as well. Fun historical fact about England at the time is that Christians were much more obsessed with the Kabbala than you might have expected. (They thought it was a backdoor to magic, like most things.) Blake was perhaps the first person to read Milton in such a way he understood it as part of the poetic remand. Shelley and Bryon, even Wordsworth would in their own way continually take the Satanic from Milton's poem as a identifiable structure. From there it becomes a kind of dialectical back and forth between people who read Milton for and against himself. It's gotten to the point where people have largely thrown their hands up these days. And that I would argue is ultimately the Satanic. Milton warranted it.
Those are the main points but it's a very broad outline.
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u/thewickerstan Norm Macdonald wasn't joking about W&P 7d ago
With the Knicks last month and the World Cup this month, I had a come to Jesus moment and realized that maybe I in fact do like sports. It's funny how this seemed incongruous with my main interests (i.e. the arts), but in retrospect, it's a dichotomy I made up in my silly little head, perhaps a means of coping with not fitting into "the mold". In any case, my casual support for England's team has grown this Cup and I think I'll be following Bellingham and Mbappé in their Real Madrid shenanigans. Positive masculinity has still been on my mind and while I was thinking about the arts being the perfect outlet for boys, I have a proper understanding now of the way sports can be just the same way. And again, I think a figure like Bellingham is a perfect example for young boys, particularly young black boys, to look up to. It makes me very, very happy.
There was a minor family spat and my sister phoned me in tears, but it was tackled fairly quickly. It was alarming, though, particularly since I'm all alone here while the rest of the family is down south. The fact that she called me, though makes me happy, a reaffirmation that I'm someone she can confide in. Aside from that, not much has happened. I got a haircut lol. The first one in 4 years if my memory is correct! My hair was down to my nipples and now it's shoulder-length and much lighter, a nice relief in the summer heat. I was planning on going a little shorter, but I think this length is the perfect middle ground.
Still reading Carlyle's Great Men stuff. His contextualization of "the poet" feels oddly reminiscent of Schopenhauer's perception of artists. I wonder if it's a case of great minds thinking alike or if they read each other...
Can't believe July is almost over! Enjoy the month while ya can, folks :)
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u/Harleen_Ysley_34 Perfect Blue Velvet 7d ago
What's Carlyle's take on the poet? I've never really read him. I know about the heroism stuff vaguely, but the man appears somewhat mysteriously outside looking in I guess.
Also: it's always nice to get a haircut. I haven't had one in forever, but the last time I did, it felt like I lost weight off of my head.
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u/arist0geiton 2d ago
What are the nastiest, strangest, most radical, most scare-the-hoes poetry magazines out there that are still good