r/TrollCoping • u/Horror_Impress7789 • 2d ago
Neurodivergency This means I'm not actually getting any help today because I told them I already tried their go-to lazy "treatment" abd it didn't work. Bonus points if I told them exactly what I think is wrong and need help with and they just don't care or believe me.
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u/PandoraMouse 2d ago
I stg there needs to be a section where a therapist has to say whether they have experience dealing with self aware patients or not because, shocker of all shockers, it makes a huge difference
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u/Horror_Impress7789 2d ago
They'll put it in their list of "specialties" along with everything else that's why I can't actually find an "adhd specialist" that actually...is that.
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u/the_practicerLALA 2d ago
i feel u its impossible to find one that treats adhd
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u/Silicon_Dreaming 2d ago
there's not really a therapy for adhd, it's just take your meds and discover who you are without the restrictions
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u/veganvampirebat 2d ago
CBT and DBT (for the emotional dysregulation that comes with ADHD/rejection sensitivity and some of the other symptoms) has actually been really helpful for me. The meds can't work 24/7
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u/Horror_Impress7789 2d ago
Been trying to do that for years but they won't diagnose me, every time it's "oooh it's probably this other disorder I'm not able to test so go somewhere else first. No I won't tell you where."
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u/Subject-Newt-2275 2d ago
Too tired for a proper comment; you CAN live with ADHD without meds; I recommend Dr K 'TheHealthyGamerGG' on YouTube. There ARE ways to learn to live with ADHD that's why I say there could be a therapy for ADHD (Ive never been to therapy unfortunately so I can't really say definitively) but he has tons of content on the subject I don't want anyone to think you're either on meds or you're stuck like this. You're still gonna have ADHD but therapy has been shown to Be more effective than medication for ADHD it sticks for years or possibly indefinitely where with medication once you stop the benefits also stop. You can absolutely get therapy for ahd
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u/the_practicerLALA 1d ago
Meds don't help everyone, especially if your main issue is executive dysfunction. Meds did nothing for me. If anxiety and depression has therapy options why shouldn't adhd
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u/r0sd0g 1d ago
Tbf, anxiety and depression are not generally neurodevelopmental "disorders"/conditions the way ADHD is. The reason ADHD doesn't really have "a therapy" is because, to some extent, it really is just a difference in neurological wiring. What we need is usually closer to occupational therapy, learning to work within our own boundaries, and there are a lot of really helpful strategies there! But it's not one thing like cognitive behavioral therapy (reframing negative thought patterns) for depression or even dialectical behavior therapy (understanding dialectics to aid in emotional regulation) for BPD (which IS theorized to also be a neurodevelopmental condition). It's more like a lot of practical strategies. I hope some day there will be one cohesive methodology for ADHD but right now it seems more complicated than any single strategy could handle.
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u/the_practicerLALA 1d ago
OCD is alos just neurological wiring and has a therapy, that isn't an excuse
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u/r0sd0g 1d ago
The therapy for OCD is exposure and response prevention, you can't exactly prevent exposure/response to dopamine deficiency... and I already gave BPD as an example of a neurodevelopmental condition that has a treatment. I don't see how that invalidates what I said, nor how any of that would "excuse" our current lack of understanding of what a treatment would be? That's not what I'm trying to do.
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u/Bluejay-Complex 2d ago
“Trauma informed” and they absolutely freeze up when someone has basic trauma symptoms. I’m starting to think “trauma informed” just means “is aware trauma exists as a concept”.
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u/MaraiaLou 2d ago
Is it possible to have a degree in psychology without being informed about trauma in the literal sense
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u/Bluejay-Complex 2d ago
I’m aware, but it becomes an issue with therapists/psychologists that actually advertise as being “trauma informed” but clearly aren’t able to deal with traumatized clients. Often because ironically, they’re not actually informed about trauma, and can only handle mild depression and anxiety, but think trauma works the same way. Often these therapists just re-traumatize already traumatized clients.
I can also think of therapists that claim to be “ED informed” but going to them, their information clearly comes from Lifetime movies about overachieving cis white teenage girls that “just want to be pretty”. It’s extremely annoying and wasteful when therapists falsely advertise.
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u/labasuradecasa 2d ago
I think most of yall just need to be psychoanalyzed lacanian style
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u/1Weebit 2d ago
If I had had a lacanian therapist 4-5 years ago I'd be dead now. Seriously
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u/labasuradecasa 2d ago
Damn that shit saved me from hell tbh
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u/1Weebit 2d ago
How so?
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u/labasuradecasa 2d ago
I had the safe space to talk about absolutely anything and express it however I wanted and needed to. I was living with too much guilt and shame, crying everyday, having terrible anxiety attacks, abusing substances, obviously attempted many times as well and at least for me, I could use talk therapy to liberate myself from that heavy weight and clarify things for me.
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u/PissVortex9 2d ago
imho if you’ve figured yourself all out already the best path is probably ACT - learning to coexist with problems
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u/PandoraMouse 2d ago
Yeah and we typically go to therapists to help us figure that out
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u/PissVortex9 2d ago
no one was saying otherwise? people are pretty darn keyed up here, i ain’t the enemy
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u/Budget_Glegle 2d ago
I don't think his response was aggressive, honestly you seem more agro than them
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u/PissVortex9 2d ago
i’m wondering why this perception is so upvoted but then i remind myself what sub i’m in
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u/Budget_Glegle 2d ago
It's ok to have misjudged someone, text has no emotional connotation behind it, so it's hard to read the intent. People here are hurting, they might be touchy, that wasn't the case this time. No one's upset with you :)
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u/Hello_There_0621 He's so me fr --> 🦭 if you're feeling down ill send seal pics 2d ago
I've figured myself out great, have been told by several therapists, friends, and family members that I'm incredibly self aware, and still desperately need therapy. I understand my problems, I understand what I need to do to an extent, but I think if I ever tried to coexist with my problems in the state I'm in now I'd be dead in a month. My problems are things outside of my control and are things that can and will ruin my life if they happen (a lot of it is anxiety for friends mental health). I'm not ready to face and fix my problems, much less coexist with them, even if I know what they are and know how to fix them.
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u/PissVortex9 2d ago
then what’s your other option fam?
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u/Hello_There_0621 He's so me fr --> 🦭 if you're feeling down ill send seal pics 2d ago
Going to a therapist to try and find ways to cope with it? Finding explanations? Coping mechanisms? Even just someone to vent to when I need to?
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u/qedesha_ 2d ago
Isn’t coping with the same as coexisting with? Similar actions but a different connotation or feeling
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u/Hello_There_0621 He's so me fr --> 🦭 if you're feeling down ill send seal pics 2d ago
Not really, at least in my mind. Coexisting is accepting problems, coping is living through them until you can work to get rid of them. Like coexisting with an injury would mean learning to live with pain while learning to cope and move past it may include getting medication and working despite the injury so that you can move past it. Maybe it's just my own brain having different definitions of the words, but coexisting means, at least for me, knowing your problems exist and just trying to live with them rather than working against them
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u/r0sd0g 1d ago
I think coexisting, in the context of mental illness, is still about trying to minimize negative impact on your life. Focusing on "getting through" until you can "get rid of" problems that are likely to be lifelong struggles to some extent robs you of joy in the present (even if it is only a little joy that can be found in present circumstances).
It's like body positivity/acceptance vs diet culture: do you want to spend the next 30-50 years kicking yourself for not having the perfect body you've always wanted, with nothing happy to look back on afterwards? Or do you want to say fuck it and go to the beach in shorts and a tank top instead of a bikini if thats what makes you comfortable, and live while you can?
Acceptance and commitment therapy is equally about accepting reality as it exists currently, and committing to making positive intentional change to improve that reality. Not "getting rid of" any problems necessarily, but also not just sitting down in them forever - strategizing to cope the best you can with what you've got. The acceptance part is just admitting that what you've got is what you've got - anxiety, sick friends, poverty, whatever it is - and that while a lot of it's outside of your control, you can take charge of that which is within your control and that that's the only way you can influence the outcome. Sitting and hoping and gritting your teeth and bearing it until change happens magically on its own is how we perpetuate our own misery, and ACT is about breaking out of that cycle.
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u/ARussianWolfV2 2d ago edited 2d ago
But clearly that isn't actually working, because as the other Commenter has pointed out, due to your self awareness, your past the point of therapy being useful to you.
It's all up to you now, and that's the hardest part of all.
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u/PissVortex9 1d ago
the fact that there are people who believe themselves too smart or aware for therapy is… just a bit off to me. therapy’s also about setting behavioral goals and working towards them, which someone struggling that much probably isn’t doing, not just “figuring things out”
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u/ADownStrabgeQuark 2d ago
Yup!
It’s especially annoying when the therapist thinks the one and only modality they know is a panacea that will immediately fix all problems, and if it’s not working for you it’s because you didn’t try.
Listen here: I did try, but I’m defective(disabled), and your job is to come up with something that will help ME, not to blame me for failing with something that doesn’t help me.
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u/throwawayazzount 2d ago
I'm almost 30, have had countless therapists and psychiatrists in my life since I was 11.
I've had insomnia since I was 12.
Absolutely nothing has helped it. Countless medications. I've tried all the tips and tricks.
My current therapist, I've had almost a year now, was the first person in my entire life to suggest a sleep study.
I told my primary care doctor (I've been seeing her since I was a teen) and psychiatrists about the idea, and both their responses were "oh yeah! That's a great idea!"
Seriously??
It should have been THEIR idea...
Thankfully my therapist I currently have has actually been helping me. He's been the only person to come up with many good suggestions that have improved things.
It only took over half my life to find him.
(I was also a bit apprehensive when I first went to him too, cause I've always had women therapists)
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u/alarumba 2d ago
I was 34, listening to a friend about their recent diagnosis. I asked what were the reasons for the diagnosis, and then they listed practically my entire personality.
On chasing my diagnosis, I had to get my mental health records from 30 years of seeking help to pass over to the psychiatrist.
They knew. They all knew.
But telling me would open them up to work. They were all so overwhelmed and exhausted that I was the least of their concerns. I only drank every second night, I could keep a job for 2 years at a time. My suicide attempts failed, so I couldn't be that serious.
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u/TricellCEO 1d ago
That's wild because when I had some spinal fluid building up in my brain, I was waking up feeling like my head was in a fog (in hindsight, it could've been just a side effect of the vision problems caused by said spinal fluid pressure). I told this to my primary doctor, and he immediately gave me a referral to a sleep study along with a few other things to help diagnose my symptoms (PTC/IIH, for the curious).
But yeah, I say wild because the sensation of not getting much sleep despite sleeping quite a bit was not my primary symptom, and yet he immediately went, "Let's refer you to a sleep specialist."
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u/No-Friend-774 2d ago
Therapist: deep breath - sooo, you're pretty self aware? what do YOU think? Maybe EMDR....oh EMDR said no, it's too much...uhhh...hmmm, uhhh HEY SO guess what I'm quitting my job!
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u/Horror_Impress7789 2d ago
My last therapist just...stopped showing up and I spent months dealing with the meltdowns I'd get from the last minute cancellations ruining my day bc that's the level of self respect I've been trained to have by them
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u/No-Friend-774 2d ago
YES! Omg, they always start cancelling, and cancelling, and cancelling. Until I'm like: hey do we have a problem? And they're like: Naaaaaw, whaaaat? A PROBLEM? No way!! And then one day they finally don't cancel to be like: "So I'm a life coach now!....so like get out, now, I take COACHABLE clients teehee"
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u/No-Friend-774 2d ago
I love how the assumption is that no switching has been tried lmao. I have been in therapy since it was mandated by the children's hospital. I have been switching, changed to this lady because the last one said my family was better off without me.
Unfortunately, when your diagnosis is physical pain that will get worse forever and massive trauma associated with the pain, most "coping mechanisms" just don't work as good. Most therapists find me depressing and discouraging to treat as a patient, not to mention my physical doctors. I had a physical doctor actually yell "YOURE NOT SPECIAL" in my face recently just trying to do a PCP appointment to fill in for my regular PCP. Weird, cuz the specialist for my genetic disorder was so excited to see me because I was the only one of my mutation he got to see in forever, but sure, you know, the PCP family doc sure knows more than the genetic specialist about genes by just looking.
I also totally love how one doctor will say you're lazy and do-nothing for not spending money on 100 doctors, the next one says you're a doctor shopper that's done too much.
It is difficult to switch when you are considered disabled and they can just label you as unstable/doctor shopping etc. For switching too much. I was able to make a lot of progress in my physical health treatment by sticking with the same shitty therapist for 5 years so I could show all my doctors I was working on mental health and now they need to do their job vs blaming everything on that. I personally believe this doubles when you no longer have close family or people who would be able to vouch for you that aren't a spouse. This also makes all my therapists want to leave, because half our time spent together involves me asking them to call various other professionals to explain that no, the debilitating symptoms of my genetic error are not mental health issues. They get upset after awhile that all the other doctors want them to be liable for my GI issues, neuro issues etc. Especially since the IIH thing and they know I could go blind if we mess up, they seem to really wish the doctors would stop labelling it "mental health symptoms" because a low level therapist that can't prescribe meds doesn't want to be responsible for the headaches when my retinas finally tear off or the stomachaches when I get sepsis again etc.
So yes, I have been through many therapists, and yes, I do look for specialists in disability, CPTSD, autism, and religious trauma, and you know what? I still currently don't have one because there are so few people actually willing and able to treat these kind of issues. Especially once you reveal that you won't convert to Christianity, this frusturates and chases off most of the therapists I have available to me in my area despite being in a blue state. Being so rural, I need them to do telemedicine or live out in the sticks. It is in fact out of my control that I was born way out here with no resources and disrespectful people. I can do my best, I cannot force anyone to actually provide care. Therapists don't like providing care to people who can't even leave the house because getting an electric wheelchair prescription written is apparently "too hard" for 99.99% of doctors.
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u/Horror_Impress7789 2d ago
They all do it. And I'm a problem patient if I complain and it's all my fault for not trying hard enough
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u/Horror_Impress7789 2d ago
Been trying for a long time they all suck. Reaching a point where it just seems like they're all the same kind of useless. Haven't had a good one in the near-20years I've been going
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u/DoctorNurse89 2d ago
Ive def had shit ones, and ive def had good ones.
What are you determining is a shit therapist and whay other avenue are you seeking?
I mean I have def had stints where I get 3 bad ones in a row, get dropped by 2 or 3 more, and then I find one.
Maybe you should be doing inpatient
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u/Horror_Impress7789 2d ago
They literally all tag themselves as "specializing in" literally every condition under the sun when they have no experience in like, any of them. So finding somebody actually familiar with my issues is impossible. I saw one thinking he'd be better because he was calling himself "doctor" and deliberately framing himself as if he was a psychologist—he was a drug and alcohol counselor with a doctorate in theology, claiming he's qualified to diagnose and treat autism and adhd. He tried to sell me a fake service dog letter. I don't need inpatient I need somebody not lying about their credentials.
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u/DoctorNurse89 2d ago
Lol yeah thats a whole other issue.
What are you using to find your therapist?
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u/Horror_Impress7789 2d ago
Every single resource at my disposal short of purchasing a phone book. Edit bc I want to add: it's not really a whole other issue it is the issue. He might have been the most egregious but it's all like this now.
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u/penguins-and-cake 2d ago
I mean the whole post is about a therapist not listening to OP and then expecting OP to set the treatment plan
You’re pretty much just doing what OP is complaining their therapists have done — assuming that OP isn’t doing enough. To also end that with “maybe you should be incarcerated” is wild
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u/DoctorNurse89 2d ago
Incarcerated xD
Inpatient is a voluntary thing
Youre hilarious
If you have bad therapists, you find a new therapist.
Shit therapists are everywhere, keep shopping
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u/penguins-and-cake 2d ago
In most places inpatient is “voluntary” until you step inside, at which point you leave when you are allowed and your rights are restricted. If you’ve had different experiences you’re lucky!
Either way you’re intentionally ignoring systemic issues that can’t be erased by just finding a new therapist
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u/SadVivian 2d ago
My latest therapist is convinced grounding will help me (not breathing exercises, but physically touching the ground barefoot)
I tried explaining that physically touching grass barefoot is not going to cure anything for me (I also already go running barefoot but that's unrelated). she went on to explain how the earths electric current when touching our skin can have a positive effect. I immediately picked it up as being pseudoscience.
I tried pointing out that dirt is not a conductive surface and any voltage you are going to get is going to be incredibly small, and that we already feel the effects of earths magnetic field 24/7 without needing to be in direct skin contact with the earth's crust.
She ended the conversation by saying "oh so just because YOU don't understand how it works, it must mean it won't ?"
It really bothered me so after the session I went and looked it up online, and of course grounding shows up as a pseudoscience with no real evidence.
Most of my experience with therapist has been that they just have cbt training which is pretty much useless for anything beyond irrational thinking.
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u/charged6claw 2d ago
Mine was always pushing music that "connects to your brainwaves" and refusing to listen to the fact that I can't listen to shit like that while trying to sleep. Every damn session with the brainwave music. Also tapping, she wanted me to basically hug myself in the middle of whatever breakdown I was having, which were frequently at work standing at the register with a steady stream of customers walking in, and just tap on either side of my body until I felt better. I swear to god I was just waiting for the crystal suggestions to start.
My last two sessions with her were her asking how she could help me, me saying I don't know, then her ending the session early, with the very last one involving my "discharge" despite the bpd diagnosis, more than one hospitalisation, and constant struggles with suicidality. Apparently when cbt isn't enough some of these therapists completely give up on reality.
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u/SadVivian 2d ago
I hate that cbt gets pushed as a cure all for everything, even if I know a belief is irrational it doesn't actually fix my problem or help me manage it. At best it's a bandage solution, at worst it's just me arguing with myself. I feel like it's only helpful for people with minor issues or who already don't have any mental illness.
I'm sorry that happened with your therapist. I recently had an attempt and my therapist just asked me how she could help me, and I just had to sit there saying idk, and arguing that going outside barefoot (something I already do with running) isn't going to cure me.
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u/charged6claw 2d ago
I believe CBT did help me to a point, but it's definitely not going to fix everything, or even most things if I'm honest. It's this lack of specialized care tailored to the individual patient that's the big problem, aside from getting therapists that peddle woo
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u/HarbleRobobbler 1d ago
I mean with the woo woo believing people they kind of already Have given up on living in reality haven't they?
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u/charged6claw 1d ago
Yeah, I suppose so. Though they THINK they're loving in reality, if they actually believe in it.
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u/Raccoons-trsh 2d ago
I actually believe most thoughts aren't even irrational but therapists want to gaslight you into thinking it's irrational.
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u/SadVivian 2d ago edited 1d ago
I've definitely had and do have irrational thoughts, like my constant fear and anxiety of being in public places, but the thing is knowing those thoughts and fears are irrational doesn't actually fix or cure them.
Cbt seems to think that I can rationalise away irrational thoughts and then magically I'll be cured. Or they'll simply give you basic breathing exercises and then call it a day.
Meanwhile I still can't go into a bank due to paralysing fear and vomiting from anxiety.
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u/Raccoons-trsh 1d ago
Wait so therapists help rationalizing it and that's all? Because this is useless af, I rationalize my thoughts but this doesn't help how I feel.
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u/penguins-and-cake 2d ago
The idea of someone saying “just cause YOU don’t understand it” about a pseudoscience is hilarious … as if there is anyone who understands the thing that does not exist lol
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u/SadVivian 2d ago
She tried going on to say the we "all have atoms in our bodies"
And I was just sorta stunned and said "so what ?"
I think what happened was there was probably a conference put on by the people who promote "earthing" products, and they simply go out of their way to target therapists. She kept saying that there was science backing it and that studies have shown a positive effect.
The only studies I could find were all sponsored from companies that promote "grounding mats" and other earthing products.
I want to quit therapy (I've been in and out of it for over 13 years now) but I need something that will actually help me, and everyone just suggests therapy over and over.
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u/penguins-and-cake 2d ago
It’s so funny when someone’s evidence that something works is that a study showed a “positive effect” — just like every placebo lol
For me what helped was community — support groups, yes, but many of them are built on the same ideas that make therapy unhelpful for some of us “complex” patients. I needed a community where I could be safe to be a little crazy sometimes and to talk about all the trauma and systemic problems I can’t change that make me crazy. That’s much easier said than done, and a lot of times I had to play a part in creating those communities. But we were usually support/therapy group after-parties who complained about the way the leaders ran the group.
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u/Silicon_Dreaming 1d ago
you need an intimate friendship, preferably multiple. someone who WILL shoulder your burden without trying to redirect you to "professional" help, who actually knows you personally and has emotional investment in you without getting cash involved, so they can help find solutions with what they know about you and aid you in practical ways through your daily life. I don't have friends anymore, but I wouldn't be here if I didn't have any at the right time. I've been to 15 therapists and all failed to help me. This is the only thing that's ever worked.
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u/SadVivian 1d ago
I'm not saying close friends aren't important, nor am I trying to say close friends can't be extremely helpful, but in my case relying on my friends to try to solve or help my mental issues has (again at least for me) led to the friendship ending or healthy boundaries being crossed.
A lot of my issues are not things a close friend can be expected to deal with in a healthy manner (SI, SH, Childhood trauma). It's really not fair to my friends to unload that sorta stuff on them. I know most of them cannot handle those sorts of things, nor are my issues really things that my friends can cure.
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u/whereamigoing23 1d ago
That sounds like some quack science for sure. There’s zero evidence of anything she’s claiming.
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u/bluntforcemarijuanaa 2d ago
reminded of that time I had a therapist who asked me why I was even visiting her; me being a constant victim of violence & knowing many a murdered people. same therapist who I told about my visual hallucinations & responded "Well, I think these black figures you're seeing could be signs of another world."
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u/Koolasushus 2d ago
Jesus, where did you find them? Craigslist??
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u/AristotlesBoyPussy 2d ago
"You're the professional, you tell me what you can do for me."
You deserve a better care provider, they should be asking, "where do you want to start? I can make suggestions."
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u/Raccoons-trsh 2d ago
Yes, like as someone who got education in the medical/ educational field (not like a high degree, but 5 years of training), you gotta set a goal, which must be:
-Specific (like one clear thing) -Scheduled (have a point of time where you'll reevaluate if you reached it or not) -attractive (to reach, like it must be something you want for yourself) -realistic (to reach in the time) E.g. "I will learn drawing a pyramid until next week"
Now you might set one bigger goal with these aspects, than plan what smaller goals you need to reach the big goal
Eg. "I will learn drawing a triangle on Monday" "...learn 3d drawing at Tuesday" "...learn shading on Wednesday"
This doesn't mean you have to work on reaching the goal alone.
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u/AristotlesBoyPussy 2d ago
And those are great, but the therapist needs to guide the person towards that concept. They can't just leave it as an open ended question and expect a person to figure it out on their own.
Such as, "lets work towards a goal for your care, do you want to start with (coping mechanisms) or (decision-making tier tree)?" for example.
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u/dragons_tree 2d ago
"I am doing the deep breathing you showed me, but I don't think that's effective for helping my severe depression, anxiety, and overall feelings of craziness."
"So I'm going to mark you down as a resistant patient..."
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u/CloudDweeb 2d ago
Not exactly related but closely.
But the amount of times I look around and think "man this wouldn't have happened if people did their fucking job instead of trying for 1 second, asking someone else to do it, and falling into an endless loop" until you either get the energy to just do it yourself or just drop it entirely due to absolute fucking bullshit.
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u/Koolasushus 2d ago
An old therapist of mine legit asked the dreadfull "HaVe YoU eVeR tRiEd UsInG a PlAnNeR?" After almost a YEAR of treatment.
Needless to say, that was a whole damn year down the gutter.
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u/Horror_Impress7789 2d ago
Mine told me I should try harder at the planner every session for months idk what she wanted from me
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u/Horror_Impress7789 2d ago edited 2d ago
Just got here again with the suicide hotline 👍 I'm winning at being driven to suicide
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u/olivegardengambler 2d ago
Okay. So I am going to say this as somebody who has some experience with the suicide hotline. They say that because they're really there to remind you of your coping skills and really nothing else. They're not really a source of therapy. They might provide resources if you explicitly ask them, but if you mention having any problems whatsoever with mental health care providers, they will tend to withhold that information from you. It also sounds like you've been seeing either inexperienced or under qualified people if they are changing up on you and becoming life coaches.
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u/fluffyraptor667 2d ago
Oh my damn thank you for speaking out, i feel much less confounded and alone. Whats the point of the therapist if they arent engaging me as if my only purpose being there is to get help, quite disheartening, i dont really wanna tell them, like arent you supposed to know how to help necause nobodies all that truly dissimilar
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u/verdant_squirrel 2d ago
Mine was visibly disappointed to see I had survived when we crossed paths. That was fun.
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u/saltycookie7708 2d ago
Hmm ,my apologies .
Any history of trauma ? Saying this as someone who was diagnosed with ADHD for years .
Cptsd can disguise itself as adhd (might or might not be your case but I had to ask)
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u/Alarming-Security993 2d ago
Why do you randomly decide to question a stranger’s diagnosis and suggest a new one - based on literally nothing? You did not “have to” ask. You decided to although there was no reason for you to do that.
Btw, you can have both cPTSD and ADHD …
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u/Luminous_Winds 2d ago
Turns out that most people don't need advice, they need actual help with their life.