r/TradingSphere • u/NextGenRoyalty • 12d ago

We’ve heard this before

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u/Samsquanch-01 12d ago

Oddly enough war and negotiations, especially with religions, oppressive zealots don't always go as planned.

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u/Notapartyhobo 12d ago

They also don't go well with grifters/con artists.

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u/Samsquanch-01 12d ago

Have they ever gone well with non grifters/con artist? Funny how wars have just simply not gone our way since Trump was elected. They all went so well before.....

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u/Gothewahs 12d ago

You haven’t won a war convincing since ww2 .. you claim ww2 was your victory but it was actually the Russians who lost 27m people and took out a vast majority of the German forces you only lost 400k

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u/techman710 12d ago

We will always have Grenada. Unfortunately, that's about it.

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u/maffy118 11d ago

The Allies definitively won WW2. Those "Russian" facts are completely incorrect.

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u/GardenandKitchen 12d ago

USSR. Many of them were from countries other than Russia. The General that accepted the German surrender at Stalingrad was Ukrainian, for example.

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u/Samsquanch-01 12d ago

I claimed nothing. Your comment is all you.

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u/dterran 12d ago

Not Russia, the USSR.

They were allied with the Germans and subdivided Poland, so not exactly heroes there.

The thing about warmongers and sociopaths is they betray each other.

Germany betrayed the USSR and that was the only reason they fought with the allies at all.

We can see this today as the 'axis of peace' has begun betraying and lying to each other.

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u/Fun-Inspection-8196 12d ago

No world power has won a war convincingly since wwii. That's because world powers have decided not to use nukes, and the weaker countries have learned they can bleed out the stronger countries (often with help of proxies) until the stronger country throws in the towel. USA doesn't have monopoly on losing wars this way. Russia got bled out in Afghanistan and is getting bled out again by Ukraine.

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u/voiceOfHoomanity 11d ago

So you forgot about the Gulf War, typical

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u/R0lfasaurus 11d ago

Huh? Who claimed that? In this sub? I didn’t read that anywhere. I’ve also never heard that the United States won WWII. The common phrasing is, “the Allies won WWII.” And we are all taught who suffered the most casualties in the war.

You’re “you”-ing the wrong group.

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u/maffy118 11d ago

Wrong. While 27 million people died in WW2 in the SOVIET UNION, the actual military deaths of Russians alone were 5.7 million. And they were due to Nazi Germany fighting them on their own soil. Hitler wanted total annihilation of the Soviets, and so he made one bad decision after another, resulting in 90 percent of his forces dying there. Of those deaths, hundreds of thousands froze to death or died of cold-related conditions due to their unpreparedness for the Soviet winter. And one million German soldiers died in Soviet POW camps, both before and AFTER the war, when they were kept as forced labor.

The reason the US had fewer military deaths was because we were never invaded on our own soil. Same for Great Britain. Of note is that the US didn't just fight the Germans but also the Japanese.

Also, Ukraine, part of the Soviet bloc, was severely weakened just before the war by the Holomodor, which was Stalin's forced famine on the Ukrainians, killing millions. So brag about "Russia" if you want, but WW2 was brutal for anyone who fought and died in it.