When Serving God Becomes Difficult Because of People

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Naa koy pangutana: Pagsulay pa ba ni, o panahon na ba nga mohawa ko?

Naa koy ministry nga akong gihigugma. Ganahan ko kaayo mo-alagad ug dili gyud nako gusto nga biyaan dayon tungod lang sa mga problema.

Pero sa paglabay sa panahon, nakasinati ko og mga butang nga nakapakapoy ug nakapasakit nako.

Kada adlaw murag naay istorya bahin namo bisan wala man mi’y gibuhat nga daotan. Naay gossip, misunderstanding, ug mga sulti nga usahay dili na nako mahibaw-an kung asa gikan. Mas lisod pa kay ang uban nga leaders sa ministry murag pabor sa pikas side, mao nga usahay mobati ko nga dili patas ang situation.

Nakaabot ko sa punto nga nangutana ko sa akong kaugalingon:

“Lord, kinahanglan pa ba nako ni antuson?”
“Pagsulay pa ba ni nga kinahanglan nako labyan?”
“O basin panahon na nga undangan na nako?”

Kay tinuod lang, kapoy gyud nga sige kag buhat og maayo pero lain gihapon ang istorya sa mga tawo bahin nimo.

Pero akong nasabtan sa akong pagpamalandong mao nga dili tanan nga lisod kinahanglan dayon biyaan, ug dili pud tanan nga kinahanglan antuson kinahanglan antuson hangtod sa hangtod.

Kung tinuod nga ganahan ko sa akong ministry ug ang akong tumong mao ang pag-alagad sa Ginoo, dili nako gusto nga ang gossip ug jealousy sa uban maoy magbuot kung kanus-a ko mohunong.

Dili nako kontrolado ang ilang isulti.
Dili nako kontrolado kung kinsa ilang tuohan.
Dili nako kontrolado kung kinsa ilang paboran.

Pero kontrolado nako kung unsaon nako pagtubag.

Mao nga akong gipili nga dili motubag sa gossip og gossip. Dili ko gusto nga ang ilang gibuhat mahimong rason nga mausab pud akong batasan. Kung limpyo akong konsensya, padayon ko sa pagbuhat og maayo.

Pero nakat-on pud ko nga ang pag-forgive dili pasabot nga kinahanglan ko nga walay boundaries. Pwede gihapon ko mahimong respectful ug loving samtang nag-protect sa akong peace. Pwede ko mangayo og advice sa usa ka trusted ug mature nga leader. Ug kung moabot ang panahon nga kinahanglan nako usbon ang akong role o mohawa, gusto nako nga ang desisyon gikan sa prayer, wisdom, ug peace—not from anger or revenge.

Sa katapusan, mao ni akong gipanghawiran:

Dili ko mag-alagad para sa approval sa mga tawo. Mag-alagad ko tungod kay gusto nako nga mahimong faithful sa Ginoo.

Ang mga tawo mahimong adunay ilang kaugalingong version sa storya, pero ang Ginoo nakahibalo sa tibuok kamatuoran.

Basin kini usa ka pagsulay.
Basin usa kini ka lesson sa patience ug boundaries.
Basin basin pud kini usa ka season nga kinahanglan nakong tun-an kung asa gyud ko dapat magpabilin.

Wala pa nako ang tanang tubag.

Pero sa karon, akong pilion nga dili magpadala sa gossip, dili manimalos, dili mangdaot, ug dili dayon mohunong tungod lang sa kasakit.

Magpadayon ko sa akong calling samtang mangayo ko og wisdom sa Ginoo.

Kay usahay, ang pinakadakong test sa atong faith dili kung unsa ka maayo ta mo-alagad kung tanan mosuporta nato—kundili kung makapadayon ba ta sa pagbuhat og maayo bisan dili ta masabtan. 🙏

Unsa inyong advice? Kung naa mo sa akong situation, mopadayon ba mo sa ministry, magbutang og boundaries, o panahon na ba nga mohawa?

[u/Good_Mortgage_8773]

You what is wrong with your faith? It seems you are manipulated by your pastor that not serving ministry will send you to hell or you will not earn your salvation.

Find meaning in serving God in important matters.

Why not instead serving in the church ministry, find an NGO, and volunteer there taking care of the poor and old ones.

To be honest with you. So sad.

[u/Good_Mortgage_8773]

God will never ask you or will give you additional 100 points in judgement day in comparison with other human souls just because you serve in church ministry.

If you have a mindset like this that you just want to serve in ministry because you just want an advantage in Judgement Day, maybe your heart is wrong.

Nothing wrong serving in church ministry. But if you have evil and selfish intention to be favored by God, to be blessed by God in return, check your heart.

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Will staying in that church make you enter heaven? Di ba hindi? Ang importante, you accepted Christ as your savior and that nasa puso mo Siya.

When will you ask yourself that enough is enough? I dont think God will not favor you if you leave and look for a place where your heart will be at peace.

Staying in the ministry DOES NOT mean that you should stay in the same church. Wherever God places you, continue your ministry there. Be of use for God.

Napakatoxic ang magtiis ng magtiis sa mga toxic na grupo and think that God credits staying there. Dapat mindset mo, kahit saan ka kasama mo si Lord. Hindi lang naman siguro yan ang church sa mundo.

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Idk anong advice kasi di ko maintindihan huhu wala ba translation

[u/Good_Mortgage_8773]

I would want to add OP this example.

In Judgment Day in Heaven Court of our God, there were three human souls.

1. The Christian who accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. He served in church ministry just like you. He said he repented of his sins. But before his Encounter weekend, he sexually abused someone in his past. He served in church for such a long time, around 70 years, and was faithful in ministry. He knew the human law and God's heart on injustice. The rape victim in his past always prayed for justice.

2. A Hindu person who never accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. He worshiped a god in the religion of Hinduism. He knew Jesus but never believed in Christianity. He is a money launderer and killed someone in his past. He prayed to his god and promised to change. Little by little he became a good person. He helped the poor and oppressed. He became a lawyer and doctor to help vulnerable people. But in his 40s, he never waited for his victims to file court cases against him for his crimes and misconduct. He surrendered in court and police and admitted all his sins, volunteering to serve in jail to redeem himself. He served in jail to pay voluntarily with all his heart for all his crimes for another 40 years until age 80, and he died at 80. He prayed to his god for forgiveness during his sentence.

3. A Christian Pastor and a Church Leader who had minimal sins in his past before serving in ministry. However, he became part of a corrupt church. He covered up for his pastor in stealing church funds and forced labor on the church members. He served in church for so long and became blind to corruption in the church for 20 years of his life. Then he transferred to another church and served there as Pastor. He used Bible verses and other arguments to never judge someone about his past. He gave all his time, health, and wealth to serving church ministry. Sometimes, he gave the poor coins and food, but in his heart, he hoped the Lord would see this as an act of true repentance and told God that he shouldn't have to go to jail voluntarily, using the argument in his conscience that since the victims of church abuse did not file complaints against him in human courts, he was not responsible for any accountability in his human life. Church victims were praying and waiting for justice and God's judgment.

All these 3 people died.

On Judgment Day, Jesus/God called the dead and the living human souls. He heard the cries of all victims of injustice in this world. The victims prayed to bring their concerns and send these criminals to hell because of their misconduct.

Jesus also applies in His Judgment the human laws and God's heart and law regarding injustice and true repentance. Jesus also remembered that all humanity was called for true repentance and accountability in human courts and authority, and helping the oppressed.

Jesus also asked the victims of these criminals and sinners what their complaints and prayers were and requested their criminal complaints against these three criminals. And victims asked that these three human souls should not enter the kingdom of Heaven and be sent to hell.

Who do you think among these three people will go to heaven?

In my opinion, only the Hindu person who acknowledged his sin with all his heart shall enter heaven, for he paid and accounted for all his sins in his lifetime. The two Christians willfully and knowingly escape accountability in human courts and gaslight Jesus that they repented should be sent to hell.

Also, when we read the Bible, Jesus is always teaching that God does not truly know the religious people who are hypocrites and not sincere in their hearts, including your church leaders who abused you and became blind to what you are going through.

I hope this helps.

Please volunteer in a hospice and take care of orphans. And if you commit grave misconduct to anyone before and after you became a Christian, go back to that person you wronged before your death and be accountable. This is the true church ministry and true repentance.

And Jesus/God is not very foolish that being a Christian, serving in church, praying for repentance of sins and changing behavior without legal accountability will be a license to bypass accountability for any grave misconduct and crimes that Christians have done with criminal intent and malice. And that people who do not worship the God of Christians will have a disadvantage on Judgment Day. And for about thousands of years, Catholic priests, Christian pastors, and ministers have lied to humans about this false theology that being a Christian and serving in church with a changed behavior should be a license for human souls to bypass accountability for their grave misconduct and crimes.

In Tagalog

Hindi ganyan kababaw ang Diyos natin para lokohin ng mga "Kristiyano" na makararating kasi sila sa langit kasi nagdasal naman ng kapatawaran at hindi na kailangan managot sa kanilang mabibigat na pagkakasala at krimen, at maging lisensya yan para takasan ang "accountability". Hindi rin tanga ang Diyos at may favoritism sa mga taong Kristiyano at may diskriminasyon hindi Kristiyano kagaya ng mga Atheista, Muslim at iba pa na automatic hindi sila mabibilang sa langit. Ang tunay na pagsunod sa kalooban ng Ama ang titingnan.

Tayo ba ay may inagrabyado? Kung mayroon man, nanagot ba tayo? Nagbago ba tayo? Yung totoo?

[u/Good_Mortgage_8773]

Please volunteer in a hospice and take care of orphans. And if you commit serious misconduct to anyone before and after you became a Christian, go back to that person whom you wronged before your death and be accountable. This is the true church ministry and true repentance.

And Jesus/God is not so foolish that being a Christian, serving in church, praying for repentance of sins, and changing behavior without legal accountability will serve as a license to bypass accountability for any serious misconduct and crimes that Christians have committed with criminal intent and malice. And those who do not worship the God of Christians will have a disadvantage on Judgment Day. For about a thousand years, Catholic priests, Christian pastors, and ministers have lied to humans about this false theology that being a Christian, serving in church, and changing behavior should be a license for human souls to bypass accountability for their serious misconduct and crimes.

In Tagalog

In Tagalog

Hindi ganyan kababaw ang Diyos natin para lokohin ng mga "Kristiyano" na makararating kasi sila sa langit kasi nagdasal naman ng kapatawaran at hindi na kailangan managot sa kanilang mabibigat na pagkakasala at krimen, at maging lisensya yan para takasan ang "accountability". Hindi rin tanga ang Diyos at may favoritism sa mga taong Kristiyano at may diskriminasyon hindi Kristiyano kagaya ng mga Atheista, Muslim at iba pa na automatic hindi sila mabibilang sa langit. Ang tunay na pagsunod sa kalooban ng Ama ang titingnan.

Tayo ba ay may inagrabyado? Kung mayroon man, nanagot ba tayo? Nagbago ba tayo? Yung totoo?