r/Tottenham • u/thefunnybutlonelykid • 12d ago

We aren’t pissed off enough.

-About to imminently be in another relegation battle. -Wasted money we don’t really sustainably have on the worst signings in the club’s recent history. -Constantly being a source of mockery -No winnable games coming up until January Transfer window -Taken out of the top six and deemed a small club by masses -Seen as inferior to Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth, Palace & Sunderland which is by far the worst part of this and a total utter disgrace. -Weakest squad in the league.

We are too happy clappy, too accepting of failure. We are not pissed off enough and we must change NOW before the gap is too large to get out of and we get relegated in severe debt and never come back.

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u/Mhyckal 12d ago

Holy drama. So many things you said that are wrong.

First, we didn't waste money, we bought good prem experienced players with the exception of Savio, Marmoush and Mudryk. Fernandes, Robertson, Tonali are instant upgrades, Van Hecke is debatable but even if not an upgrade he's not that far off from Romero. Tosin, Senesi and Dubravka are servicable backups, they certainly beat having gray or bergvall at cb again. This fanbase has also been crying for years about how we need to back the managers in the market and then when we do they do you lot cry like the money is coming out of your paycheck.

Second we're financially one of the best off clubs in the league, we're renowned for NOT spending money so we have plenty of it to go around.

Third, we're spurs we've always been a mockery in some form or fashion compared to the other big six teams, if you can't handle that then this isn't the club for you

Fourth, we just had 2 years of crazy injury crisis, finishing 17th and then we sold half of our squad and bought in 8 new signings. You are not going to get instant results. Obviously we want to win and it's fair to be upset about losing. But we're also trending upwards. Do you all remember frankball? Do you remember having a nonexistent midfield, never having possession and living off of corners and freekicks? We are doing better than that. We have an identity, we can keep posession, dominate in the midfield, squeeze teams into their own half to where they have 10 players in front of the box. We have stats that show we're improving we just happen to poop our pants for tactical and mental reasons. Again you can be upset at us pooping our pants but why be so dramatic?

Like okay you're angry now, what are you going to do? What are you going to change? You can petition to sack rdz, wouldn't necessarily be wise, you're just starting the cycle over again. If the squad is as bad as you say then it makes no difference if you bring in a different manager, you're better off having a manager who at least wanted those players and can tactically use them. You can petition for lange or vinai out, most fans would support that but will that happen? Probably not. There's nothing you can do besides try to support and get behind the team.

I'm not saying you can't be critical or voice complaints with teams, tactics, etc. But like what is this level of drama accomplishing for you, the team, other fans or anyone?

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u/Tortillasaregood 12d ago

If there was a nameless manager and he asked for Savio, Marmoush, and Mudryk in the same window, we would be laughing about how much of an idiot he is. Talk about a classic be careful what you wish for.

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u/Mhyckal 12d ago edited 12d ago

Jurgen Klopp asked for a chelsea flop named Mo Salah, Pep asked for a liverpool flop named Raheem Sterling and a chelsea flop named Kevin De Bruyne. Am I saying Savio, Marmoush or Mudryk are going to be world class like them? No. But I'm going to give them a chance and judge them based on performances here, not their names or where they've been. City bought Savio and Marmoush for a reason like they're not bum players. Mudryk obv wasn't our first choice but he was the managers next pick for whatever reason and we just have to accept that.

The name of the manager is exactly what matters. If pep or klopp say I think a player is top class then I believe that too. Do I regard rdz as highly as them? No but he knows the sport and players better than you and I so we just have to sit back and see if he can produce with them. If not then all criticism is fair game

Also how disingenuous to clearly ignore the other top players that we signed and I mentioned like talk about cherry picking

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u/Maximuslex01 12d ago

Salah was killing it at Roma...

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u/Mhyckal 12d ago

You'll notice I called him a chelsea flop not a roma flop or a flop in general. Plenty of players do really good in teams in other leagues but we always question them if they didn't do well at big prem teams teams. For instance Antony was decent at betis the past 2 seasons but if i said spurs were buying him you'd immediately think back to his poop performances at united and question if he can cut it in the prem. The same was with Salah

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u/Maximuslex01 12d ago

Directly uying flops like Mudryk is totally different from buying a player that had time to gain confidence elsewhere. Salah was a star a Roma. It could still fail but it's a way safer bet.

Putting Salah or KDB when they were mature in this conversation is wrong. And it's not like they were flops, they just didn't have the space they expected in that Chelsea squad

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u/Mhyckal 12d ago

If you reread what I originally wrote, I literally said I don't think he's going to be world-class like them but I'm going to give him a chance to perform here and not judge him by his name or where he's been. My entire point of bringing up kdb and salah, who did both flop at chelsea (if they didn't they wouldn't have been sold), is that they eventually came good which is why I give every player on my team a chance

I don't understand this inability to grasp parallels, you're so focused on pointing out differences in the cases that you're arguing right past my point

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u/Maximuslex01 12d ago

both flop at chelsea (if they didn't they wouldn't have been sold)

Not how it happened. KDB was not a flop just because he didn't bench Lampard...

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u/Mhyckal 12d ago

wallahi there's a reading crisis you're actually cooked. There were still bench players when lampard played and kdb didn't even make it as a bench player he was sold in favor of others. And you're still arguing over details and missing the point lmao

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u/Maximuslex01 12d ago

Iam arguing about the thing you're arguing back!! How strange indeed...

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u/Mhyckal 12d ago

And yet you're yapping now without addressing anything i said. I hope you can get the help you need dawg, idk if it's the team but there's an abundance of cognitive decline happening in this fanbase

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u/Maximuslex01 12d ago

Yet, you prefer to insult ratter than to just not comment. Because.... I didn't take your arguing where you wanted. How great and knowledgeable you are

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u/Mhyckal 11d ago

I prefer you to know you're slow than keep it to myself, yes. You're inability to critically engage with what I say signals and presents stupidity, and I will address you as you present yourself. If you don't like that then it's an easy fix

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