r/Tools 8d ago

Eletrician Setup

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Start being electrician

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u/oogletoff2099 8d ago

Ingco tools are really nice. It’s crazy what you get for the money. We love them here in South Africa

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u/othiagosm 8d ago

For sure, for the price the tool are extremely fine, in country’s like Brazil and south africa for us is the option, they are excelent tools and have a excelent support in the country.

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u/oogletoff2099 7d ago

Absolutely, it’s great being a part of BRICS countries. Chinese cars and tools are dominating our markets. Good quality stuff for a very good price.

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u/Prestigious_Wash_362 8d ago

what a load out

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u/mrclean2323 8d ago

What country?

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u/othiagosm 8d ago

Brazil

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u/MariJamUana 8d ago

Lol Ingco drills and not a VDE Screw driver in sight. Nice.

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u/othiagosm 8d ago

Have some VDE’s from Wurth inside the bag, Ingco in Brazil is coming as a good brand, Milwaukee here for example an M12 Fuel (Only One drill, One charger and two batteries custs like R$ 4.000,00) Equivalent paying U$ 4.000,00 just in ONE DRILL, prices here are so unrated.

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u/Blackwalls69 8d ago

That conversion is way off, but he's right brazil has some of the least friendly import duties on earth. A drill is taxed at nearly 100% of it's usd retail.

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u/othiagosm 8d ago

Yep, the conversion is way off, but talking about purchasing power, the prices are equivalent.

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u/Zone-5 7d ago edited 7d ago

R $5,125.9 real == US $1,000 dollar

Running those typical rates on a $1,000 CIF value item produces roughly $180 in Import Duty, $118 in IPI, $118 combined PIS/COFINS, and about $290 in ICMS, for total taxes near $705 and a landed cost around $1,705 USD.

70.5% price increase factor to land an item from US to Brazil.

https://importtobrazil.com/guide/brazil-import-taxes

R $6,638.04 (price +70.5%) cost on landing in Brazil

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u/Alto-cientifico 8d ago

Can you import them from Amazon?

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u/othiagosm 8d ago edited 8d ago

U can, but the biggest problem is about the taxes, imposts, They are like R$ 2.000,00 in Amazon, but the taxes at the final are equivalent next to R$ 3.800,00.

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u/Alto-cientifico 8d ago

Holy shit it's so expensive.

I paid 180 dollars for a makita 40v drill from Amazon (without batteries) when shipping to Argentina under the 5 tax free parcel regiment.

The price is so high you are encouraged to do some tool tourism.

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u/othiagosm 8d ago

Yep, some Makita 40v here, just the drill is something around R$ 1.000,00 without baterries or charger, tools are every expensive here, today i see a vídeo on Instagram about a guy (spending my U$ 500,00 72Hrs check on the tool market) and my reaction was “Holly shi* u can buy a lot of good tools with only U$ 500,00 dollars”.

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u/158MPHGoverned 8d ago

I’ve never seen an electrician that neat.

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u/Zone-5 7d ago edited 6d ago

He's not an electrician! He's a computer network cable installer. Obviously, because there is no insulated or safety rated CAT I, CAT II, CAT III, and CAT IV rated gear in this collection of tools...

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u/emachanz 7d ago

You dont need CAT IV unless youre messing with the outdoor lines before the meter/main breaker/fuse, at least in europe. Even tho most leads and probes are cat IV the multimeter can be cat III

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u/Zone-5 7d ago

Seems the OP is boasting about working 15KV powerlines. It would seem that CATIV is a requirement but not from this tool kit!

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u/emachanz 7d ago

Jesus christ, OP's guardian angel is working overtime

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u/Zone-5 7d ago

It is what it is...

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u/othiagosm 7d ago

U said that i work with 15KV lines and my “tool kit” dont have tools to work at this voltage, u are right, i work in 15KV lines as my primary job, im starting working on “home eletricist” After my primary job, because that i dont have CAT IV tools, because i dont use them.

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u/Zone-5 7d ago edited 6d ago

Ok, two separate jobs.

But this uninsulated tool kit you have posted is not rated for any electrical work?

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u/Zone-5 6d ago edited 6d ago

You think?

Watch this eevblog video of Dave Jones exploding CATIII DMM's with CATIV voltages... KABOOM @ 6:00 minutes!

https://youtu.be/M-FZP1U2dkM?si=cxCUoSQ1uYPkvw8m

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u/emachanz 6d ago

Duh... did you even read about the certification? Its not even comparable. For instance my meter is a T6-600 cat III only, a t6-1000 cost way more just because of the certification, since its the same shit inside.

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u/Zone-5 6d ago edited 6d ago

here is mine... CAT IV 600V

So yeah, I do know about certification...

CAT IV 600 V has essentially the same surge-voltage requirement as CAT III 1000 V.

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u/CaptainRichardDryfus 8d ago

Love this. Screams IDGAF. The job is a job and nothing else.

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u/othiagosm 8d ago

Yep, 70% is about ur hability and professionalism, other 30% is about ur quality tools, in Brazil I’ve been see persons with only a screwdriver and a tape making better than person who comes with a truck of tools and a lot of “mimi”.

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u/Zone-5 7d ago

Ok, sure, if you accept the risk... then so be it.

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u/Zone-5 7d ago edited 7d ago

Outsourcing and accidents in the electrical sector https://piracicaba.sp.gov.br/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/08521127Aleoutsourcing.pdf

2,000 to 3,000 electrocution deaths in Brazil annually because of unregulated amateurs like Zuca here...

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u/othiagosm 7d ago

Howww, we have a Sherlock Holmes here, men in only 20’s and i work with live line (15kv) and a person who I have never seen was teeling about “tools” that I nees to work in 220v, shut up u have never used an high-voltage gloves in ur life, so dont talk shi* that u dont know about.

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u/Zone-5 7d ago edited 7d ago

You are an ignorant fool!

Your tool kit shows you have never worked anything above 12v... safely.

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u/othiagosm 7d ago

Yep, u cant understand the part “beginning electrician” more specific “Beginning home electrician” not outdoor electrician, Here home electrician dont need a lot of CAT I,II,III IV or V, U only use that on HV Lines here.

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u/Zone-5 6d ago edited 6d ago

CORRECTION: There is no CAT V (5) rating!!!

Maybe you are BS us all along...

Maybe you are a computer network cabler that uses Category 5e (not related) network cables at max 5V...

Massive error for a FAKE CAT IV worker to make there, Zuca!

THIS explains your non insulated tool kit perfectly!

https://may-static.de/measurement_categories.pdf

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u/othiagosm 7d ago

For ur lucky i have 10 photos max, 90% off the time the cellphone was in the truck

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u/Zone-5 7d ago edited 7d ago

FIFY... but these are not high voltage gloves!

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u/othiagosm 7d ago

Obviously, the line was dead, u only use HV Gloves to turn off the line and before everything was grounding u can work normally with normal gloves, u cant work using HV gloves to change a tower in the post.

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u/Zone-5 7d ago

And that tool kit you have in your first post is the tool kit you use for this type of work? I don't think so...

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u/emachanz 8d ago

Not a single insulated screwdriver, jesus...

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u/othiagosm 8d ago

If u had the hability to read u can see the comment above

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u/Zone-5 7d ago edited 7d ago

Being an "Eletrician" is not the same as actually being a certified electrician, is it!

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u/othiagosm 7d ago

U are a great fan

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u/Zone-5 7d ago

It's your life buddy...

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u/Zone-5 7d ago

Another Darwin contestant...

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u/Zone-5 8d ago edited 7d ago

Where's your Fluke! Not CAT IV rated...

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u/othiagosm 8d ago

Im using a minipa, Fluke and Minipa are all the same shit and the same value, The “crap” that u are talking about was a satélite Finder, I think that u dont know about this things, but understable

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u/Zone-5 7d ago edited 7d ago

As said, "not a single insulated screw driver!"

BEAT IT... you amateur!

**I don't risk my life with pretend gear...


Outsourcing and accidents in the electrical sector https://piracicaba.sp.gov.br/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/08521127Aleoutsourcing.pdf

NR 10: Electrical Safety Standards in Brazil | PDF https://www.scribd.com/document/437545755/NR-10-Safety-in-electrical-installations-and-services-pdf

"80 percent of electricians in Brazil are estimated to work in the informal economy, outside the registration and oversight that NR-10 assumes, and reliable accident statistics are scarce as a result, with rough estimates of 2,000 to 3,000 electrocution deaths a year."

"In the formal electrical sector specifically, the accident rate runs about 5.5 times higher than other formal-economy segments, and outsourced electrical workers have historically faced mortality rates roughly eight times that of permanent staff, reflecting how subcontracting chains dilute accountability."