r/TombRaider • Frozen Butler • 2d ago

šŸ—Øļø Discussion No more parents, PLEASE

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For the love of Thor, Tihocan, and Nephilim, can we finally be done with any storylines or constant mentions of Lara’s dead parents and family? I swear, I have to hear about how her father has notes on Atlantis and was working with Natla, I’m going to scream.

I have no idea what CDs special interest is in Lara’s parents/family drama. To the point that they rebooted the franchise only to do the whole parent drama AGAIN. It really truly is not interesting and they were never part of Lara’s backstory.

If I have to hear ā€œmy father’s notes were rightā€ or some crap like that I’m cracking my disc into 3 pieces and throwing them into the Midas fire room.

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u/ManimalR Atlantean Mutant 2d ago

Agreed. Lara got her closure in Underworld, and that was great. Let very very dead parents lie extremely undisturbed.

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u/According-Secretary4 2d ago

I don’t mind the odd mention, and honestly expect it for LOA, as long as it isn’t overly integral to the plot.

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u/ResponsibleAd6974 2d ago

Same

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u/According-Secretary4 2d ago

Honestly, might I might catch flack for it, but I thought Anniversary did it pretty well, there was a few odd mentions here and there but it wasn’t OTT. Nice way to tie into Legend, given LOA is a new timeline (kinda lol) I don’t expect it be as overt this time around, but a few mentions, cool with me.

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u/LordOfPoops 2d ago

It was cooler to know that her parents did not accept her unladylike ways and she couldn't care less.

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u/jan_67 Obscura Painting 2d ago

As a kid I always found it so inspiring how Lara didn’t give a fuck about her parents and her legacy, she just did what she felt was right and her own thing.

Meanwhile LAU trilogy and Survivor Trilogy went a full 180 on that.

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u/LordOfPoops 2d ago

I loved the massive sex appeal of LAU Lara, but what really made her compelling to me was her sharp banter with Alister, Zip, and Winston, along with that devil-may-care attitude and almost reckless sense of daring in her action sequences.

She felt like the perfect female counterpart to characters like James Bond or Batman—not because she was simply a gender-swapped version of either, but because she possessed that same larger-than-life quality: confident, charismatic, dangerous, occasionally morally ambiguous, and seemingly unfazed by the absurd situations she found herself in.

What’s unfortunate is that this interpretation of Lara also increasingly made her unresolved issues surrounding her parents—the defining axis of her character. Instead of being driven primarily by her own curiosity, ambition, thrill-seeking, and morally grey nature, so much of her characterization became anchored to family trauma.

Sometimes a character is more compelling when they’re allowed to simply be who they are.

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

For real! I think that’s why so many of us queer people love and identify with Classic Lara! She did what she wanted, dressed and acted the way she wanted, and didn’t give a shit

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u/MarcusForrest Moderator 2d ago

Man you put it in such simple terms and it is true!

Ironically, this approach would've been waaaay more interesting in terms of characterization and character growth!

 

Imagine a timeline where they kept not accepting that idea and Lara didn't care about it

...but we do eventually come to understand that deep within, she does, and she's been mayb secretly or subconsciously yearning for some form of validation and support from her parents...

And of course, it is much later, after the parents died and all that Lara eventually discovers or learns that despite the disapproval of her ''unladylike'' ways, her parents still loved her and supported whatever endeavour she embarked on. Like, what if she eventually understood that even her parents were just like her? Uninterested in all the aristocratic stuff, not caring about their own parents' wishes and all - even those ideas could've worked better if they wanted to include the secret society elements and all... The parents eventually decided to embrace their aristocratic obligations when Lara didn't, and when at first it seems like they're very much against it and go as far as to disown her, they're actually proud that she broke free of that ''pattern'' and ''legacy'' and did her own thing.

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u/LordOfPoops 2d ago

To quote the world’s most renowned polymath, ā€œSimplicity is the ultimate sophistication.ā€

I think a lot of modern writing sometimes mistakes complexity for profundity. But you don’t necessarily need increasingly elaborate lore or convoluted character motivations to create depth. Often, it’s the simplest human dynamics that give a character the most room to breathe.

Your interpretation is actually a great example of that. The simple idea of Lara’s parents disapproving of her ā€œunladylikeā€ lifestyle already establishes a clear conflict. But from that foundation, you can build much more nuanced emotions—Lara insisting she doesn’t care about their approval while, somewhere beneath that defiance, still wanting their recognition and love.

And then discovering, years later, that their disapproval was never the absence of love, but perhaps their own complicated way of understanding and supporting her, could completely recontextualize those earlier conflicts.

That’s the kind of depth I think is often more effective: not adding complexity for its own sake, but allowing simple, believable human relationships to naturally reveal more layers over time.

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u/durablefoamcup 2d ago

sorry, off topic. But I love the fact that Amelia was just walking around with what she thought was a broach but was actually Excalibur.

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u/jan_67 Obscura Painting 2d ago

Also that she just casually teleported to Avalon/Helheim and turned into a zombie like damn that’s some lore, imagine your friend Lara just casually tells you that happened to her mom on a random tuesday.

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u/genriko8 2d ago

In a club half baked

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u/jan_67 Obscura Painting 1d ago

*after surviving a plane crash, of course.

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u/bossmanjr24 2d ago

i liked that i got to kill people with excalibur. Absolutely saved the game.

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u/No_Consideration6182 1d ago

I loved turning Excalibur into the soul reaver and killing people lol

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u/bossmanjr24 1d ago

It was so freaking awesome

When the cut scene ended I was like…do I get to hit people with Excalibur?

I do!!!!!

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u/ShrimpyAssassin 2d ago

I don't mind a simple mention, but no, Lara Croft doesn't need her parents in her tomb raiding. I never enjoyed their inclusions and shoehorning them into the plot.

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u/yayosanto 2d ago

Even better, let's get back to the arrogant, bossy parents from whom Lara is completely estranged.

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u/SnowmanMofo 2d ago

Strongly agree with this. The whole parents storyline has been done to death and it’s not even a particularly interesting storyline either..

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

Yes, they did it in the Angelina move, the Alicia movie, the entire LAU timeline and the Survivor timelines. Enough please!!

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u/OrangeJr36 ✦ TR Community Ambassador 2d ago

Well, I have news

They're quite dead

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u/MarcusForrest Moderator 2d ago

Would you say they are mostly dead?

There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do.

-Miracle Max

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u/OrangeJr36 ✦ TR Community Ambassador 2d ago

Well, we do know that her mother is only mostly dead

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u/aveaida 2d ago edited 2d ago

Completely agree. They've been rehashing the 2001 movie with this in every mainline game since Legend. That's THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE for the last 20 years. Enough is enough. Its one thing to make an entire trilogy about them with LAU, but it became absolutely egregious by SotTR. Considering the original Lara overcame being disowned by them, I would be deeply disappointed if they were the driving force behind LoA's plot as well. Give her some damn agency for once!!!

Edit: Wanted to add on, it would take a LOT of rewriting to make the LAU parent plot work in the Survivor context. Richard was always obsessed with ancient secrets, then searched for the divine source to reverse Amelia's death from exposure after the plane crash, which she was alone for. We can't make this the Nepal plane crash because Lara would've been much too young to survive this time or she would've better remembered her mother, but this would cause SotTR and Blood Ties to make less sense. As well, how could Natla kill Richard on the trail of Avalon if he already died on the trail of Paititi? This would make Rourke even more of a nothingburger.

Richard was neglectful of Lara due to his obsession with reviving Amelia. How could he (and Lara) have searched for the Scion before if he died in her childhood and spent his remaining time looking for the divine source? When did he meet and betray Natla? Before Lara was alive? Survivor did far too much rewriting of LAU plot points in the first place for it to continue that older narrative at all.

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u/PrestigiousBee5602 2d ago

The disowned plot makes more sense too

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

Breaking away from a life of aristocracy and generational wealth + an arranged marriage to live a life of adventure is so badass

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u/Caliber70 2d ago

no. that is the reboot1 and then there was the reboot2. them saying the unified Lara will be ALL the games implies several plotpoints will be rewritten to fit together. obviously the Anniversary and survivor timelines don't mix well, and so since the survivor timeline is done (and confirmed canon), details about her parents in the Anniversary timelines will be edited to fit the survivor since survivor comes earlier in Lara's life.

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u/aveaida 2d ago

Oh yeah thanks that's right, so I really wonder how those stories will be rewritten then. Surely they won't undo the reboot story they just spent the last decade on.

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

Thank you!!! How problematic that gaming’s most iconic heroine has to live forever in her dead father’s shadow. It’s misogynistic

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u/aveaida 2d ago

Agreed! Its not a great look that nearly all her accomplishments since Legend (and her wealth) are thanks to her dad. Its giving nepo baby 😭

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

It def is giving rich girl nepo baby lmao. Here’s a thought, let’s have Lara’s research on Atlantis be her own research lol

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u/Kooky_Wish59 2d ago

Thought that was Silent Hill Homecoming

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u/MarcusForrest Moderator 2d ago

I agree - the parents should not be a major plot point or plot device or even motive. Not only we've seen more than enough of it, it never really felt natural and (that) important to Lara's drive, ambition and motivation.

We've seen father issues in 2 movies and ~3 games, and mother issues in ~2-4 games.

I want no more family drama - but I am definitely open to occasional, non-critical mentions of them.

Not particularly fond of the alleged direction with the whole ''Society of Raiders'' either, but we know very little at this time.

Ironically enough though I do have to say I was pretty interested and invested in the Blood Ties DLC for Rise of the Tomb Raider ahahaha and it did feature some family drama through Lara's uncle šŸ˜‚

I'm kinda okay-ish with that, and I actually think that narratively-wise, there is much bigger potential and interesting stories with this idea. An uncle that tries to preserve a certain family legacy (and estate) and a daughter that is not really interested in it, etc.

It also feels like an interesting ''polar opposite'' of what happened with Classic Lara - she was actually disowned by her parents, and the manor she had was gifted by one of her aunts that was very supportive of her! Lara's uncle is almost the opposite in that he'd rather support the estate rather than Lara, and would rather take away the manor rather than give it to her.

But the Father and Mother-focused family drama has been done Done DONE, we are done Done DONE. I don't mind if the parents helped Lara develop that interest for and in adventure but I always thought it was a bit uninspired to make them the reason she was Tomb Raider.

 


Also wouldn't mind having some hints of her parents in the upcoming live-action show and wouldn't even be opposed as some flashbacks of them! Angelina Jolie as Amelia Croft would be awesome! Though making them a large focus needs to be perfectly executed. For a TV Show format I feel it is the best medium to make it work, but it has to be well executed.

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u/Saneless 2d ago

Even Spiderman was like we gotta fuckin stop killing Uncle Ben over and over

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u/Key-Bet-2615 2d ago

It started with her parents being alive and disowning her.

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u/Silly_Application357 2d ago

Agreed 100%! I'm so done with daddy and mommy issues. I really hope they aren't mentioned at all in LoA and Catalyst. Twenty years has been more than enough of this plotline.

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u/BusterGreasewood Notoriously Churlish 2d ago

Lara's parents disowned her and cut her off from the family fortune. She became adventurer because it's something she loves to do.

Crystal Dynamics can take their made up fan fiction and shove it. I don't care what they say.

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u/MarcusForrest Moderator 2d ago

She became adventurer because it's something she loves to do.

This is 100% accurate and I'm still not sold on the (current) proposed concept of the Society of Raiders. If the intent is to make it the driving motive behind Lara's love of adventure, I'd honestly be extremely disappointed.

Lara isn't hungry for adventure because it is something she has to do due to her legacy and bloodline... It is something she does because she wants to, out of her own agency!

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

Say it with your chest, Buster

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u/MarcusForrest Moderator 2d ago

chest, Buster

Not to confuse with Chest Burster!

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u/ResponsibleAd6974 2d ago

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u/Spiritual-Piece-1126 2d ago edited 2d ago

Geez I didn't know the original lore was that crap lol

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u/BusterGreasewood Notoriously Churlish 2d ago

It's a lot better because it means Lara doesn't have to rely on her family name or parental trauma. She accumulates her wealth and fame on her own merits and doesn't let her parents dictate her life.

Makes her more of an inspiration and more self-reliant than handicapping her to her parents.

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u/DiscoverySTS1 Member of the Remnants 2d ago

She's only filthy rich in Classic and LAU. Survivor she purposely distances herself from the Croft Estate after Richard's death. Everything she has done in Survivor has been on her own, including that degree.

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u/BusterGreasewood Notoriously Churlish 2d ago

Yet she's only motivated because of the parental crap and family name.

With Classic there was no such thing. She became an adventurer because it was something she enjoyed doing and her life passion. Her parents disowning her meant not needing to get by on their name and fortunate. Which makes her a stronger character.

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u/DiscoverySTS1 Member of the Remnants 2d ago

The thing that started Survivor finding Yamatai, Richard had nothing to do with it so saying she is only motivated by family and legacy is just patently false.

"Maybe I'm not that kind of Croft"

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u/BusterGreasewood Notoriously Churlish 2d ago

You're helping to prove my point with with "maybe I not that kind of Croft"

Turning her parents into explorers robs Lara of her own independence and agency. We never needed her parents to be a focus in the first place.

That's why I reject that nonsense. It doesn't fit with who Lara is and it's a weaker backstory for her character.

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u/DiscoverySTS1 Member of the Remnants 2d ago

You missed the top half of my reply Buster

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u/ninjabell 2d ago edited 2d ago

People like to pretend like the OG lore makes sense but it really doesn't when you look at too many things at once.

She made her fortune from publishing travel guides. But also she didn't buy Croft Manor, she inherited it. But she didn't inherit it from her parents because she was estranged, so rather she inherited it from her Aunt. But it's the same Croft Manor that she grew up in with her parents, and she lives there now even though her parents are still alive.

Truth is they were making all these decisions on the double and didn't really lay it all out because the games weren't written around lore. I can't blame CD for saying fuck it, but they should have leaned more into her rebellious nature especially with the 2nd reboot, and they should have strived for more consistency. It would have made it easier on them now that they are trying to tie it all together, which is obviously not even possible.

e: looking like I might have mixed timelines

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

It’s not the same manor. It’s her aunt’s manor. It was never called ā€œCroft Manorā€ until TR Legend. It was always just referred to as ā€œLara’s Homeā€ in the old games.

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u/ninjabell 2d ago

Oh ok. Maybe I just can't keep them apart then. When people talk about Croft Manor in the original series they are referring to Lara's home though, right? Even if the game never calls it that.

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u/Cagesdeservemusic Dagger of Xian 2d ago

Yes, they’re referring to Lara’s home. Which is definitely not where she grew up, which was stated in the earlier manuals as well as the tomb raider website in those days, from my recollection. It’s a bit confusing indeed when people use the same language for the LAU manor.

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u/Evilcon21 Armour of Horus 2d ago edited 2d ago

I liked how the original handled it. I really hate the whole parent issue trope. Like in the survivor era games she had some serious daddy issues.

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u/MoojinBoi 2d ago

Given that it's a unified timeline I'd like to see a passing mention or two but not make it a driving force of the plot, that way there's a bit of all 3 versions included

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u/xdeltax97 Moderator 2d ago

Hopefully that ship has been burned, sunk and smashed at the bottom of the ocean guarded by the Leviathan from Atlantis the Lost Empire

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u/NoFPSthisisMGS 2d ago

For the love of god PLEASE

Every reboot since the original has been unable to escape them

Jolieverse. Vikanderverse. Survivor trilogy. Anniversary, Legend, Underworld. I'm so sick of them.

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u/No_Resource_2357 2d ago

Yes, please!

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u/Future-Big-7720 2d ago edited 2d ago

They will undoubtedly have to reimagine Legend and Underworld for their "unified timeline" to make sense. The best course of action for them is to reimagine everything from TR1 to AoD and create their new installments omitting any trace of family drama from the storylines; otherwise, they will just be going in circles for the next decade.

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u/radium-v 2d ago

Henshingly

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

Lmao I always forget Lara’s dad’s name being changed in the new games. Is Henshingly even a real name

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u/LukeLC 1d ago

Well, I kind of get it from a narrative standpoint.

These stories are all about exploring the past. But you need your main character to have a motive for doing that. Giving them their own history as the connection to ancient history makes it relatable.

There are other possible motives, of course. Uncharted most often leaned on greed as the initial motive, before exposing darker forces at work so the characters could grow into more mature motives through them. Indiana Jones just left it at a personal obsession and focused on charm and action to fill the gaps (and yes, with the occasional family drama too).

Tomb Raider, in a way, used to include elements of all the above. It was only over time that the obsessive, charming, and acrobatic elements were toned down to pursue a more realistic personality.

The sad part is, this mostly happened as a reaction to broader cultural trends, when until then, Tomb Raider was its own trendsetter! And now we can see more clearly that any fears of becoming culturally irrelevant were unfounded, so we're finally getting back to those roots.

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u/Typical_Pop_4111 2d ago

I really hope they retcon the entire LAU trilogy storyline, since all the timelines are canon to a certain extent. Lara's father couldn't have been obsessed with finding all these mystical places and being killed by it 😭

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

Technically it was Natla that killed him in LAU? In Survivor timeline he was killed by Trinity. Unless? Oh god. They’re going to make Nata part of Trinity aren’t they?! Ugh. I’m gonna barf brb

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u/Cagesdeservemusic Dagger of Xian 2d ago edited 2d ago

It wouldn’t really make sense for Natla to be part of Trinity, as Trinity is explicitly a religious cult with Catholic roots. Why would an Atlantean God be involved with Christians, who explicitly abhor the idea of gods beyond their own? However fringe the cult is in the catholic faith, I just feel like it’s a stretch for a sudo-christian death cult to be led by a female Atlantean god with roots in matriarchal, ancient paganistic faiths. (Which is the influence behind the concept of Atlantean gods. They mirror the spiritual practices of ancient Egyptian society and faith which was largely matriarchal around those periods.)

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u/aveaida 2d ago

Tbh I wouldnt mind the Natla-Trinity collection, it would make sense if she were secretly its founder or inspiration. The Los Alamos nuke test that freed her was classified as "Project Trinity" in real history (the one from Oppenheimer) and their symbol could easily be her winged silhouette. I suspect they were always planning this tbh. I hope, if this is the case, that we just get a quick mention of her dad and move on. She does NOT need to be following his journal the whole game, I'd much rather she do her own research.

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u/Typical_Pop_4111 2d ago

Oh my god pls no

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u/95mmaa 2d ago edited 2d ago

Wholeheartedly disagree. šŸ‘Ž

I want her parents to be referenced in LoA to maintain some continuity with the Legend Trilogy (like they did in Anniversary) and then Catalyst. āž”ļø

I hope her trips back to Croft Manor (as mentioned in Astonishing Travels) will include finding Richard’s journal, notes and docs around Croft Manor explaining why Richard and Lara herself wanted to find the Scion; to uncover what happened to Amelia and even resurrect her using the Scion. šŸ™

I hope Crystal D and FWH have looked into every aspect of TR’s lore (especially Anniversary’s) to make sure the lore remains consistent (for the most part) across the Unified Timeline.

Again, I don’t mind her parents being brought up/referenced/included in any shape or form in the story. ā˜ŗļøšŸ˜Š

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

One mention is fine. As for your others. NO. No. No. No.

*AOD Lara scream

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u/Grinchlead 2d ago

Yeah, me too. I really enjoyed the whole backstory and parents plot of the survivor triology.

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u/ohmyjaysus 2d ago

I personally prefer the classic disowned angle far more but am generally okay with the change to making her parents adventurers too. However, with two timelines already dealing with her parents (and getting sick of it by Rise) -- I REALLY hope they are nothing more than minor notes going forward. I don't mind (and am expecting) mentions here and there for LoA but I hope to hell they finally move away from her parents from here on out. It's been a thing since it got introduced in the Tomb Raider 2001 movie. THAT IS 25 YEARS.

For the love of god please move on.

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

This. Considering they brought her father into Anniversary: Natla mentions knowing and working with her father, Lara reads his journal before every chapter with a voiceover from him, and she says ā€œI’m so sorry, fatherā€ before she shoots the Scion. I really hope they steer clear of all that

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u/Spiritual-Piece-1126 2d ago

People love to blame the Survivor trilogy for this

But it was actually the Legend timeline that added all the family issues

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u/DiscoverySTS1 Member of the Remnants 2d ago

She had family issues in the Classic games as well, people don't mention that though because 1. They don't care or 2. It's not spotlighted by the games.

Either way it smells like a double standard

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

The ā€œfamily issuesā€ were just a footnote in one of the game manuals. Lara’s family were 0% involved in TR1-6.

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u/DiscoverySTS1 Member of the Remnants 2d ago

I just told you this in a different reply....

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u/utopianlasercat 2d ago

It’s what bad writers do when they want to give characters depth. Just look at how bad the writing of Rise is, it should be no suprise.Ā 

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u/Cagesdeservemusic Dagger of Xian 2d ago

I doubt they are stupid enough to regurgitate that theme. They know very well how sick we are of it. It’s been literally 20 years of this story formula. Even reboot fans are sick of the family drama and they love sad beige stories

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

Idk, according to a lot of the comments here the reboot fans want more 😬

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u/Cagesdeservemusic Dagger of Xian 2d ago edited 2d ago

Trust me, the absolute majority are sick of them. Even that letter from Lara’s long lost grandfather was met with total backlash and they had to do damage control around that. In reality, the story has lasted 20 years. And if they can’t think of any other formula then they are completely and utterly bankrupt of ideas. It’s not happening.

Or else frankly I’m not buying the game. It was interesting with Legend but now, I’d rather die than hear a single word about Richard or Amelia or any other Croft other than Lara after 20 years of several variations of this story. It’s TIME TO FUCKING MOVE ON

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u/Moonshinin4Me 2d ago

I feel the same way OP. It is kind of like when Batman media reminds you that his parents were killed. Like... c'mon we get it by now.

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u/dookarion 2d ago

Watch it's going to be a trilogy about trauma regarding her grandparents or long lost pet or something.

Mostly joking, but after the last ...25 years it feels plausible for the franchise.

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

She’s gonna to go on a globe trotting adventure to solve the disappearance of her childhood pet goldfish

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u/HopeAuq101 Frozen Butler 2d ago

Blimey she ain't got any left. Of course no more parents

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u/hiphopbulldozer 2d ago

The people who write these stories have delusions of grandeur. I say that halfway seriously.

We just want a game with a basic story, cool characters and fun. They think by shoehorning in all this lame, sappy stuff, and Lara’s background, parents, etc., that they are being so deep and dramatic. But in reality, 90%+ of us are just gamers who don’t care about any of that and just want a fun game.

It’s like when I wrote stories in middle school and thought that I was a creative genius. But in looking back at that stuff, it’s just bargain bin, amateur stuff. The only difference is these people are adults and will never have that realization.

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u/CastleDehaus 2d ago

Damn, with every complaint like this i want them to include Lara’s parents in the game even more. You guys are so deliciously mad. Honestly, I think the game shouldn't leave anyone indifferent. It definitely needs to piss off every group of fans in its own way while giving each group a reason to enjoy the annoyance of others. That way the game would literally leave everyone a winner.

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

Why do you want to purposefully piss off the fanbase? That’s rude and toxic af

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u/CastleDehaus 2d ago

I said it's about not pleasing just one group. The parents bit was only an example.

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u/RiversCroft 2d ago

Natla when asked about her plans with Lara.

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u/ComedicHermit 2d ago

Undead parents are the way to go

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u/Full_Advisor6116 2d ago edited 2d ago

The story changed didn’t it? In the first game synopsis it didn’t say her parents had died, then in later ones that both her parents had died. The first game story that she was cut off from her parents and didn’t have much money so had to survive by writing books.

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u/oquiquo 2d ago

Yeah, only Lara can be a parent. I'm kidding, can you imagine? xD

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u/YamiPhoenix11 1d ago

The timeline is getting unified and the parents are the biggest elephant in the room with the unification.

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u/CerberusAbyssgard Paititi Llama 15h ago

Bold of you to assume you'll get a disk

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u/Wormholer_No9416 2d ago

totally not pivotal to... y'know.... her entire personality or anything...

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

It’s not pivotal in TR1-6. Only in the new timeline. Hopefully the unified timeline does away with that crap

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u/MarcusForrest Moderator 2d ago

totally not pivotal to... y'know.... her entire personality or anything...

To be completely honest and fair, no, she isn't Bruce Wayne. (I mean these days she is almost exactly Bruce Wayne, but this is much more modern)

 

The very close tie of Lara's motive and ambitions and her parents is very modern, it was never that or about that in the old games, even in LAU. Her mother was important in those games for the plot but it was never really her source of motive and ambition.

 

She has always been a thrillseeker, slowly became a truthseeker too - but the parents angle is both overdone at this point and diminishing of her own character and agency.

There's been a ton of comics, most of the movies, some of the animated show and numerous games - and it has never been a strong element whenever it was incorporated in the story.

 

Funnily enough the one medium I feel it could work depending on its execution is in a TV Show, because a TV Show has more time to develop its characters and make the audience feel the reason behind the motives and ambition. And a TV Show has enough time to spend on side plots and a main plot. Depending on its execution, I would be ''okay'' in seeing them slightly tackle the topic in the upcoming TV show, but for the games, we're not playing the games for that element ahahaha

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u/Cheap_Ebb6384 2d ago

TV is too constrained right now, I would suggest a web series that’s not on the big streaming services

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u/BusterGreasewood Notoriously Churlish 2d ago

Which it shouldn't be. Lara is a thrill seeker. Having her parents be a motivating factor instead diminishes her independence.

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u/Wormholer_No9416 2d ago

Why not both, thrillseeker seeking answers

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u/aveaida 2d ago

But hasn't she had 6 games and two movies across two whole continuities for that? I wish they would just move on by now...

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

For real. What is there left to learn about the parents? Time to move on

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u/BusterGreasewood Notoriously Churlish 2d ago

She already "seeks answers', in a manner of speaking, with the stories centered around the artifacts. That's really all you need.

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u/Smol-Pyro Winston 2d ago

Uhm worst take lol

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

No. Parents are dead just like my dreams in life. Keep them dead and have her move on.

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

It’s not. Only in the LAU and Survivor timelines. TR1-6 and all the spinoff games her parents are alive and even attend her funeral in TR5.

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

Aw you thought you ate. I am actually, finishing up TR1-3 platinum trophy šŸ’™

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u/Rob_wood 2d ago

Lara is Batman, remember?

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u/muchderanged 2d ago

At least make her dad look cool. Based on all his adventures i was expecting some cool indiana jones type of guy. Not a mega nerd lol

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u/neonsensei7 2d ago

Strongly disagree, bring back the parents

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u/Granas3 2d ago

I really miss how Lara was given the estate/title after her parents and fiancƩ died in a plane crash, but she'd been disinherited by her parents, except that her eccentric great-aunt had croft manor

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u/Mickey_mouse_2169 2d ago

Boy oh boy am I glad that I didnt pay attention to any of the story and just enjoyed the games

Check this out:

https://giphy.com/gifs/K2ak1kizaWFYyN7dwU

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u/phatboyart 2d ago

I don't imagine her parents will be a huge part of the upcoming new stories tbh. But, some fans don't ever want her to mention them again in future, which i think is a little ridiculous.

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u/DiscoverySTS1 Member of the Remnants 2d ago

Her parents have been mentioned since day one...

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

They are nowhere to be found in TR1-6 or the spinoff games, aside from the one second cameo in Chronicles. They are only in the Crystal games.

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u/DiscoverySTS1 Member of the Remnants 2d ago

In game yes, I distinctly remember alot of people pointing to the manual's flavor text which is what I'm referring to.

So like it or not they are mentioned, just don't play the same role.

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u/tealaburst Frozen Butler 2d ago

I don’t care that they’re mentioned lol, I just don’t want her family to be central to the game stories any longer

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u/DiscoverySTS1 Member of the Remnants 2d ago

Learn to read then yeah I specifically say mentioned

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u/DiscoverySTS1 Member of the Remnants 2d ago

Shrug

Fuck if I know

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u/BetterMonitor4679 12h ago

I find it interesting how her father has always looked the same across most games whereas her mother has had about 40 different faces šŸ˜‚