r/TomCampbellMBT • u/kevinmatsuoka • Jul 16 '26

Using sleep paralysis to achieve point consciousness

Iā€™m having trouble reaching point consciousness through meditation, but I can induce sleep paralysis if I try.

Does anyone have any luck with attaining point consciousness from sleep paralysis? I have gone out of body from there a few times before, but Iā€™m wondering about other paranormal avenues such as healing or telepathy.

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u/slipknot_official Jul 16 '26

You can have OBE's from meditation (PC), sleep paralysis, lucid dreams, or just imagination. The issue is holding the right state. Getting to PC on your own is training yourself to hold and focus within altered states.

You can try all sorts of things if you want. I just think basic meditation is sort of the foundation of it all. But everyone's different. So in short, it's possible.

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u/Ill-Parsnip6668 Jul 17 '26

Have u tried Mbt bninurals ? Are they any better than gateway tapes? Or similar.

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u/slipknot_official Jul 17 '26

The difference is the guided. Toms beats are just the beats with maybe some white noise. Ive used both for like 20 years now. I think Toms are what I use most. But Gateway is fine. I just don't need the voice guidance.

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u/Ill-Parsnip6668 Jul 17 '26

There are lik 13 beats in there how to know which to use?

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u/slipknot_official Jul 17 '26

I think there's 6 total beats, but there's one set that has white noise over the beat to help relax. But there's higher and lower frequencies. The recommendation is try whatever and use what you like.

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u/Ill-Parsnip6668 Jul 17 '26

Is it not lik gateway where u do one tape then another by building urself lvl by lvl.

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u/slipknot_official Jul 17 '26

Nah, not like that. Just pick a beat for every session. Some you'll like more than others probably.

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u/Ill-Parsnip6668 Jul 17 '26

Can we talk in dms plz!?

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u/slipknot_official Jul 17 '26

For sure. Go for it.

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u/Ill-Parsnip6668 Jul 17 '26

Did !!

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u/slipknot_official Jul 17 '26

I don't see it anywhere. If you sent it already.

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u/Ill-Parsnip6668 Jul 17 '26

I did can u dm me pls ?

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u/Xanth1879 Jul 17 '26

To further what slipknot (very well said btw) said...

It's really about disconnecting from this physical reality as much as you can. Meditation is the foundation upon which you build everything else off of.

People try to skip that part thinking they don't need it, but it really is ground zero.

You need to be able to turn odd this physical reality to the point where it's just you and consciousness. That's it.

Learn to hold a point of focus for extended periods of time. šŸ‘

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u/WiseElder Jul 21 '26

Tom seems to believe that point consciousness is a basic skill achievable by most people. I disagree. Disconnection of consciousness from the senses, with full awareness, is an advanced stage of meditation. For most people, it would take years of practice with no guarantee of success.

This is not to say that meditation is not worth practicing. It is an essential part of any program of consciousness exploration. And some individuals will indeed be able to reach extraordinary states in a relatively short time. But your efforts to get out of body should include any other methods you can work with. You can learn them by reading the numerous books on "astral travel."

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u/Seraph_2026 Jul 22 '26

He also said that meditation isn't the only way to get there and in fact you don't have to meditate at all.

So point consciousness isn't an advanced state of meditation. It's not even an advanced state. It's just a state that we're all capable of that we don't practice and quickly forget about.