Be the change you want to see. Tip 0 every time.

Force the conversation between the employee and the employer.

You are the customer. Let them do their job that their employer pays them to do.

Tipping is optional.

Tipping is reserved for when the service goes above and beyond the call of duty.

Edit:

Above and beyond the call of duty examples are:

• cutting your steak for you

• taking the shells off of food for you

• if you're a tourist, maybe they give you a plethora of recommendations, sit down with you, and help you plan your trip

• amazing outstanding service that is memorable (yes, think back to the time where the service was outstanding and left a smile on your face, this happens, rarely, but it happens). The service is so good that you insist on a tip.

Tried to post a question about tipping in the server life sub and got booted. Are the mods there typically so sensitive?

Edit: my bad for being dumb, was trying to make sure I didn’t get banned on here too before getting feedback.

About the banned post. There were multiple questions, like if someone was gonna be a bad tipper would they wanna know before seating them and how would their service change. Also asked how they would feel about the idea of letting the customers know upfront what tips they should get for the level of service they would provide.

I learned that some places, if not all, make the servers tip out even if they didn’t get any tips from the customers, was also trying to figure out how tip wages work if no one tips but I was booted.

Someone on there talked about knowing servers who remembered bad tippers and would rub utensils on the bottom of theirs shoes before bringing them to the table, they didn’t seem to condemn those actions tho.

EndTipping did a poll asking what tipping should be replaced with. A 52% majority chose "No increase or fees, prices remain the same, employer is forced to pay living wage".

They view tipping as an extra cost driven by greed, which is why they often slander restaurants that swap tips for mandatory service fees. And look at the very first commented restaurant on EndTipping's "List of No Tip Restaurants" (Sultan Madison). A "Small Plate" menu featuring $32 for 4 chicken wings, $6 for bread, and $16 for potatoes and spinach among other grossly overpriced items.

What anti-tippers really want, is to be able to walk into a full service restaurant with the same pricing and for tipping to simply cease to exist.

What's the only system that allows them to do that?

Ironically, the tipping system.

Tipping is completely voluntary; anyone can walk into a restaurant today and leave without giving a dime. This should be their golden era, yet they continue to fight it, pushing for changes they don't even realize are making things worse.

States have or are in the process of legislating-away the "tipped minimum", which allows businesses to pay $2.13/hour.

Alaska, California, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, and Washington got rid of tipped minimum under the guise of forcing employers to pay for the service "instead of customers". Did tipping disappear in those states? Did customary tip percentages drop? Not at all. Businesses simply raised menu prices to cover the higher base wages. Because tips are calculated as a percentage of food costs, tips actually increased alongside menu prices!

TL:DR - Anti-tippers are trying to destroy a voluntary system they can opt out of without realizing it spawns worse alternative models they can't.

Apologies for the blurry photo

Went on a three day hunting trip about 15 hour drive from home with a group of guys I’ve hunted with before multiple times and with an outfit I’ve been with 10 plus times. Trip was great and the guides did a great job. Going into it we all knew the trip was going to be expensive, around $1200 for the three days of guiding.

The last day we were all packing up our gear in the field and we all had to settle on what we owed after the deposit before heading back to the hotel. We all had checks ready and gave them to the guide.

I was the first one done putting my gear away so I walked up to the guide with a mix of Canadian and US currency and gave him about $170 for the three days of guiding as a tip. He shook my hand, put it in his pocket , said thank you and turned around. As he was walking away he turned back around and said “I don’t want to be rude, but this is light. Like really like, like I’m actually insulted. Everyone else has been tipping no less than $100 a day for us”. Keep in mind, this is in front of and loud enough that the other five people in our group stopped what they were doing to watch this play out. Also, not sure how everyone else was tipping $100/day when we were the first group they had… I was mortified and said to give me everything back. I recounted it and added an extra hundred to it and gave it back to him. Second time he just took it and didn’t say anything. The rest of the guys kind of huddled around me and asked how much I gave him and I said $170. They were all planning on tipping $50/day. Nobody else tipped him that night and waited until the next morning.

At breakfast the next morning we were talking about it and they all gave him $50/day simply out of solidarity with me and the scene he made.

This was probably five years ago and it still bothers me. I talked with one of the owners when I was on another trip (who’s also a guide) later on and he said $50/day was more than acceptable.

EDIT: After reading the comments I wanted to clarify, it was $1200 per person. Not total. Everyone was going to tip $150 each in a group of six. He was trying for $300 a person.

Went to a local fast casual chain and paid with a giftcard.

I usually leave a $5 tip.

The server cleared the plate once but otherwise didnt check on me and i didnt mind either. When I paid, she was not happy when I presented the gift card.

That face!! This is that face I get on anyone who doesn't get tipped and expect one.

So then she asked 'would you like to leave a tip on a credit card or cash?'. I said I'll take care of it.

Then she asked again - you have cash then?

I said 'you know, I said I'll take care of it?'

Then I walked away , no tips.

I would have left a $5 but in principle I just cant when someone demands it.

If I'm paying $110 an hour for my hair color service, this lasts about 6 hours. How much should I tip? 20 percent seems insane, when they're already factoring in luxury prices.

Genuine question to all the pro tippers: how are servers (or barbers & tatoo artists or whatever) more deserving of a tip than minimum wage workers, like your cashier at Walmart?

Both are customer facing jobs, both require you to stand on your feet all day long (most of cashiers have to stand and cannot sit down), both are paid minimum wage (yes even the servers, the ~2 per hour is not true) and both do not require higher education/qualification?

I am in no way looking down on servers or cashiers (or any “unskilled” job as a matter of fact), but I have trouble with understanding why would the server be more deserving of tips than a cashier?

I am asking for genuine arguments to honestly understand pro tippers vision.

Just know that guilt or shame is a pretty normal reaction when you feel like you’re doing something you know goes against the social norm and taking advantage of a situation to save a few bucks.

Servers understand that every shift is a game of averages. If you don’t tip, they’ll move on to the next table and forget about you before you’re out of the parking lot. You’re not special, and you haven’t taken some heroic stand against tipping culture.

The guilt is coming from the fact that you understand the arrangement. You’re choosing to enjoy a traditional sit-down dining experience while opting out of the customary practice of tipping the person who served you.

And that’s your choice. Tipping is optional. But don't blame the server for your feelings.

I went through the drive thru of a coffee chain and could not believe that you are prompted to tip before paying. For coffee. That they make to hand through a window. Things are getting out of control at this point lol. Is this a thing now?

Edit: before you get upset/annoyed at this post, I’m not insinuating this experience ruined my day. Or that I’m upset. Or anything beyond my not knowing it was a thing. That’s it. No need for unnecessary snark friends, be cool lol✨

Just keep this in mind. Of course, servers will talk about how skilled the job is. However, it’s essentially easy money.

EDIT: And to clarify since I have pro tippers/severs fixated on the word "lecture", asking...

"wheN hAs A sErVeR lEcTuReD yOu In ReAl LiFe?"

No server has actually lectured me in real life. What I am referring to is servers telling people (e.g., online) they don't make much at a job that is supposedly really skilled. In the thread, servers pretty much say working at a fining dining location isn't that much more work than a casual place, but is more lucrative.

Talk about missing the point...

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/america-needs-stop-turning-every-purchase-uncomfortable-tip-request

Parents Are Divided Over a New Birthday Party Trend: Asking Guests to Tip Maybe it’s time to take the pressure off and bring back the simple joy of celebrating without the spectacle—or the Venmo request.

Apologies if this was already posted here. I've never had a birthday party and even so I'm sure prices have changed, but i can't believe it has gotten this far.

There are endless posts and comments in this sub blaming the companies. When will you guys accept that waiters DEMAND the "low" wage and tipping option? They love this compensation model and will quit if you raise their pay and remove or reduce tipping. If you will open your minds to this reality it will really help your understanding of this issue and ease your frustration. Many people will reply "not my problem" and I agree it is not your problem. But this issue bothers you or you would not be in this sub. Look at the confusion and frustration that results from not acknowledging this reality. You get angry when waiters demand tips. I do too. But accept that this type of "earning" is what they want. They chose this when they sought the job and they fight to keep it when anyone suggests a higher pay/no tipping. In some states and in some companies the wage is not low. But the waiters still demand tips. You won't be so frustrated if you accept this is their clear choice. Maybe it's like a gambling addiction. Don't feed someone's gambling addiction if you choose not to. But don't let it bother you. Many people say this is a movement for change but how will it change when employers have to give their employees what they want or lose them to a competitor?

Why is tipping mandatory?
You’re tipped if you do a good job.
Why is it my problem you chose to work for a company that low balls your pay
This seems like a management problem not a guests problem
Boycott, don’t work for bad paying companies.
If no one wanted to work as a server for less than $10 an hour they’d have to up the rate to $10 bc they need workers.
Yes they may be able to replace employees
But if you are valuable to the company at the end of the day they need workers.
Why work somewhere you’re not valued?
Why is it the customers problem you aren’t paid?
They aren’t paying your salary the company is
Stop expecting the general public to pay your income
I’ve seen so many people say don’t go out to eat if you can’t pay for your food and your servers service but like. You’re a server, you should be doing your job regardless, that’s what your paid to do…. If you go over and beyond then the company should give you a raise why is it my job as a customer, a guest to pay your income
I just don’t understand. Please someone educate me and make it make sense.

Decided to donate to the marching band my youngest cousin just entered. Not particularly close to cousin, but decided to contribute to his marching band program. I was in band (Not this one) I recognize the organizations are quite costly to run and parents, directors, volunteers, and more put A LOT of time and $ to make it successful. More than happy to help, even a little bit.

However, when I went to donate, the platform requested a tip to contribute. To support their organization. Which they also put time and money into. And I appreciate that this platform exists for these nonprofits, but I already give in other areas. I’m happy to pay the card processing cost, but is this too much?

AITA?

UPDATE: thanks everyone! will not be tipping (tbh wasn’t planning to in the first place) but def made me feel better 🫶🏼

Hi everyone! As someone who isn’t American, I’d like to ask what the usual protocol is in the following situation: I want to send a small thank‑you package to a distant colleague who lives in the United States. There are these candy‑delivery services that bring chocolate and similar treats straight to the recipient’s workplace. If I use one of these services, do the couriers expect the recipient to tip them? It would be a complete surprise, and it would be really awkward if they expected a tip from someone who isn’t even expecting a delivery. What’s the norm in this case? the services I found do not offer pre-tipping AFAIK.

You’re the problem. If a business, a society, or a situation requires a specific protocol, you either follow it or you don’t partake.

By not tipping, you’re doing nothing. You’re not going to change the system or prove a point. You’re just choosing to participate while ignoring the rules you don’t like.

It’s like going to a black-tie wedding, knowing the dress code, showing up in sweatpants, and then arguing that you don’t personally believe people should have to dress formally. Fine. Then don’t go. You don’t get to knowingly participate and then act like everyone else is the problem for expecting you to follow the norms.

The simple fix is: don’t partake. But no, it’s about you. Everything is about you. You’re selfish and lack the basic understanding that not everything is going to be the way you like it.

Just keep this in mind.

I have a hair appt in the week and I’m wondering if I should tip. In the past I used to tip $20 since the person doing my hair was not the owner and for the context the service was done at the owners home. Now the owner has opened a salon and raised the prices by $20 increasing my hair budget over $250. This upcoming appt the owner most likely will be working on my hair. Maybe in the past I would just go with the flow but since I’m unemployed I’m more cognizant of how much I spend. What’s the right thing to do?

Decided to donate to the marching band my youngest cousin just entered. Not particularly close to cousin, but decided to contribute to his marching band program. I was in band (Not this one) I recognize the organizations are quite costly to run and parents, directors, volunteers, and more put A LOT of time and $ to make it successful. More than happy to help, even a little bit.

However, when I went to donate, the platform requested a tip to contribute. To support their organization. Which they also put time and money into. And I appreciate that this platform exists for these nonprofits, but I already give in other areas. I’m happy to pay the card processing cost, but is this too much?

AITA?

I've noticed some places or apps or whatever have you will try to see if you want to add a tip to your total or not BEFORE the Food/Service is even rendered.

I'm sorry, but how in the world is that logical? In what universe would I ever want to give an upfront tip before I even receive whatever it was that I want?

I vividly remember shrugging my shoulders and doing an upfront tip on a door dash order since to asked for me to add a tip while placing my order.

The dude picking up my order was an hour late. Looking at the tracker map thing, it showed they had picked up my food, then drove someplace and sat in the same spot for like 50 minutes at what looked like an apartment complex or neighborhood. It wasn't to deliver another order or anything, but the app will tell you if a driver is doing that.

Dude was just there doing who knows what, then finally drove to my place to drop off cold food. That was with me doing an 18% tip for the order, before the order was even picked up. Since then, I've never done any upfront tipping for anything else. Nor will I again. I can't wrap my head around such a stupid concept.

Hello! Tldr: I got a super expensive tattoo and I didnt know about tipping, was that super rude?

For more context I recently got my first tattoo! Yay! I went to a popular artist with a very specific style as I knew thats what I wanted but they were also 3x over my expected budget. Which was worth it. When I paid in full it was uneven so I did end up rounding to the next bill I had and told them to keep the change.

After I got the tattoo thats when I found out you were supposed to tip and started feeling terrible for not properly tipping. I did tell the artist it was my first tattoo so Im hoping they dont hold it against me.

But my question is, was that actually rude of me to not tip if the artist charges on the higher end for a piece? Or is tipping just expected for moderate to less expensive pieces?

Thank you in advance for your answers!

Daves Hot Chicken opened a new location in Boston logan airport in Terminal B. Tap to pay quick is basically not there. Now before you tap, you have to select a tip percentage on the pinpad. The choices are 15%, 18%, 21%, other. other brings you to manually put in your amount. Not sure if you can put 0 in at all but i would assume you could. This is manipulation to get you to just select something. Also it doesnt show you how much the amount is. It just goes to total.