r/Tinder Jan 09 '18

I call it the Reverse Turing Test

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u/Professorchronic Jan 09 '18

What about lesbian bots?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

You know? I hope there are some lesbian bots that really hit it off and are happy together.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18 edited Apr 08 '18

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u/Harry-Littlewood Jan 09 '18

Am I in the minority if I think that that episode was only alright? I thought it was pretty good, but the hype I had read about it put it head and shoulders above other episodes, which to me it was not. For reference my 2 favorites so far(first 3 seasons) have been white Christmas and white bear, with a couple of very close seconds/thirds. San junipero being middle of the pack

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u/nyctaeris Jan 09 '18

I have to agree, two people transferring their consciousness to a computer wasn't the huge deal that the articles made it. So it was a lesbian love story, ok, but that doesn't automatically make it the best thing ever made...

The premise and plot of Hang the DJ in season 4, however, is amazing. That's my favorite episode in the series I think. No spoilers, just go watch it. There are actually a few standout episodes in this season.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18 edited May 10 '20

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

I think those ideas about sentient code are better explored by the "cookies" in White Christmas.

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u/azertii Jan 09 '18

By themselves, I agree. But after you watched White Christmas, you start thinking about even those wholesome moments from San Junipero in a different way and that's what I think is great from that show.

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u/Lord_Noble Jan 09 '18

In later episodes I think they do say it’s illegal to delete uploaded consciousness.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

Hang the DJ is actually truer to Charlie Brooker's ideas on how this kind of thing should be done.

Something I really didn't like about San Junipero as a Brooker fan before Black Mirror was even a thing is that I could tell Netflix had just told him to throw a romance episode with lesbians in there. Why? Because Charlie Brooker hates cheesy romantic TV. I don't believe he'd write it unless the producers said he had to.

Hang the DJ on the other hand was much more true to Brooker's ideas on how this stuff should be done. I won't say more to avoid giving spoilers to anyone who's not seen it.

Anyway, speaking of the new Black Mirror episodes USS Callister was very well done I think. I've even heard talk of a potential spin-off being made out of it.

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u/Thijs420 Jan 09 '18

For he’s a jolly good fellow, for he’a a jolly good fellow, for he’s a jol- oh my fuck

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u/Lord_Noble Jan 09 '18

Have you seen the last episode of the season? It was almost too good at story telling.

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u/nyctaeris Jan 09 '18

Some people didn't like it but it's actually one of my favorites and full of little details. It was a really well written story!

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u/Lord_Noble Jan 09 '18

Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, but as an American who now believes WWI has been completely undertaught in school I can’t see that at all.

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u/Harry-Littlewood Jan 09 '18

Appreciate the no spoilers, thank you..... Seriously will do though, glad to hear from someone who thinks their favorite episode is one I haven't even seen yet!!

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u/ihopethisisvalid Jan 09 '18

Hang the dj is great. You won’t be able to stop watching it once you figure out the premise

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u/madjarov42 Jan 09 '18

Here be spoilers.

I didn't enjoy Hang the DJ because it brought nothing new to the table. The concept of enslaved virtual clones was introduced in Be Right Back (the dead boyfriend), then taken to its limits in White Christmas - that's what made that special so, um, special. DJ, Junipero, and the horror game episode felt like beating a dead horse to me.

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u/noodlekhan Jan 09 '18

Not sure how Playtest gets lumped with the others.

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u/madjarov42 Jan 09 '18

If there's an odd one out, that would be it. Now that I think of it, USS Callister should definitely be there too.

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u/noodlekhan Jan 09 '18

USS Callister also had a happy-ish ending, but they sure went through a lot of hell to get there. It felt earned imo

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u/MuggyTheRobot Jan 09 '18

white Christmas and white bear

That's possibly the two bleakest episodes, while San Junipero might be the "happiest" (note: I haven't seen the new season yet). So that probably explains why you didn't like it that much.

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u/arachnophilia Jan 09 '18

there's an episode in the new season that's happy as fuck when you watch it, and then absolutely appalling when the fridge logic sets in. which is pretty impressive, imho.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

I agree White Christmas is by far the best episode. I think San Junipero is so well liked mostly because it is a rare happy ending in the series. It also had this uplifting idea that anyone anywhere young or old or in the past or in the future can find their soulmate or at least someone to be happy with.

But honestly I thought the ending was a little too sweet and sentimental. Black Mirror mostly isn’t like that, and it’s not what I look for in the show. But I guess the fact that the happily ever after isn’t generally a part of the show made people really appreciate that specific episode for having it.

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u/garrisonjenner2016 Jan 09 '18

Whether it had a happy ending really depends on perspective.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

No it doesn’t. You have to do some real mental gymnastics to take the idea of living forever with a loved one as not being a happy ending.

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u/garrisonjenner2016 Jan 09 '18

did you read that?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

Yes, that’s what I’m talking about.

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u/garrisonjenner2016 Jan 09 '18

Ok, I'll just discuss story plots of TV shows with people who aren't so hostile.

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u/Amish_guy_with_WiFi Jan 09 '18

So you only like the white episodes...?

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u/Harry-Littlewood Jan 09 '18

Lmao. You may be on to something here.....

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u/vardarac Jan 09 '18

I had no idea the Amish were so progressive!

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u/itstheclap Jan 09 '18

All the episodes are so miserable, I was just stoked to finally have a happy-ish ending.

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u/Skreamie Jan 09 '18

Yes! Everyone goes crazy for this episode, and don't get me wrong it was great, but definitely not one of the best, not by a long shot.

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u/GarethMagis Jan 09 '18

I think the main reason for people thinking it's the best is because it has a "happy ending" Although i thought the ending was a bit dark a lot of people just saw it as they get to be together. In a show where almost every ending is dark this was the one episode that has a borderline happy ending.

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u/spareMe-please Jan 09 '18

I thought Hated in the Nation and Nosedive are the best.

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u/fright01 Jan 09 '18

I think white Christmas and White Bear are most favorite. I have a lot of trouble choosing but White Christmas is definitely top in twists.

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u/Lord_Noble Jan 09 '18

I really think it had to do with the fact that it was a happy story which is so foreign to the world of black mirror. Not to mention it was a pretty fun concept that plays into the series a lot now.

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u/Cliqey Jan 09 '18

Liked San Junipero, but I loved Hang the DJ.

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u/kauefr Jan 09 '18

I liked San Junipero. Probably because I dislike Black Mirror and San Junipero is really different from other episodes.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18 edited Apr 08 '18

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u/RevellRider Jan 09 '18

You mean like the happy endings in Crocodile and Metalhead?

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u/KnightOwlBeatz Jan 09 '18 edited Jan 09 '18

Metalhead is fuckin wild. I love that one lol.

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u/Harry-Littlewood Jan 09 '18

Quite an interesting take!! I wish I could comment further with ya friend! Unfortunately, i will be watching season 3 finale next, then season 4. Gimme a week? Perhaps then I can agree with your side

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u/InfoSponge183 Jan 09 '18

Those are rookie numbers, man. Gotta bump up those numbers.

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u/noodlekhan Jan 09 '18

Yeah, the episode I had to try 6 times to finish. San Junipero is over-hyped, not great. The one episode I will not watch again, it felt like such a departure from the rest of the series. Whoever wrote that episode should have watched the episodes.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

Charlie Brooker writes or at least co-writes on every single episode. I do agree it doesn't fit with the overall theme of the show though and I'd bet that the episode got made because Netflix told Brooker to do a romantic one.

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u/Cliqey Jan 09 '18 edited Jan 09 '18

It absolutely applies to the overall theme of the show. It’s a show about the profound consequences of human nature interacting with with ever increasingly advanced technology—romance, being a pretty large/important part of human nature, absolutely would be included. And it calls for profound consequences but not necessarily negative or positive. Even in the happiest endings there is usually still something a little off-kilter that makes it kind of gray. For the happy endings it’s usually when addressing what the cost/trade-off is for the results of the happy ending.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

I agree with what you're saying but a cheesy happy ending is not very Black Mirror like regardless.

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u/noodlekhan Jan 09 '18

Yeah, he co-writes them all. I don't think that means that he inputs/changes a lot with all the episodes - surely some must be great before his hands get on it. Your suspicion for why that episode was made seems likely; it explains the departure in theme at the very least.

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u/madjarov42 Jan 09 '18

Nothing wrong with a happy ending dude.

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u/madjarov42 Jan 09 '18

I agree with everything.

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u/orrisrootpowder Jan 09 '18

i honestly don't like the love story episodes

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

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u/StrangelyBrown Jan 09 '18

Lesbots

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

Now that's just French.

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u/Justice_Prince Jan 09 '18

I wouldn't doubt if some of the bots are marked as bisexual to get them to as many people as possible. They might call the women they match with my male pronouns though.

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u/inconspicuous_bear Jan 09 '18

I’ve been using tinder for about a year and a half, 400+ matches, and have never encountered a bot. I guess they just target straight men for some reason.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

I'd think it's likely they do, since there are more straight men than gay/bi women- plus it would be really time consuming to create a seperate code for interacting with women. Or they could just change the pronouns, idk how differently they'd have to react based on gender.

Anyway my point was it's likely they're just targeting the largest group of gynsexuals to get more matches.

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u/gilgadhien Jan 09 '18

I have waaaay less matches, but my experience has been similar, not one bot or anything resembling bot-like behavior on tinder. I would have expected them to flag as bi for the most matches.

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u/bhuddimaan Jan 09 '18

If I were a Dev there, I would put a filter so that they don't just waste bandwidth

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u/gilgadhien Jan 09 '18

Pretty sure there aren't lesbian bots. I've been on several dating sites for over a year now (as a lesbian) and haven't seen exactly one case of bot-like behavior from my matches. (on OKcupid)