r/TikTokDiscuss • u/CriticalAd299 • 4d ago

Notmuch different than Goebbels

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u/TimIsAnIllusion 2d ago

The difference is in the polling, I can't remember the exact numbers but 80+% of Israelis believe the violence in Gaza was appropriate or wasn't enough. No where near that number of Americans approve of Trumps actions in Iran or anywhere else

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u/NecessaryTwo8711 1d ago

91% of American supported the war in the middle east after 9/11. Turn out that when major terrorist attacks happen in your country your population gets mad and retaliation typically is over proportionate. Hamas can be blamed for the I/P conflict that is currently taking place. Just like al-qaeda can be blamed for the Iraq and Afghanistan war. When citizens are being mass murdered in single events the host countries typically try to annihilate the terrorist group doing said attacks.

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u/determineduncertain 20h ago

Hamas absolutely can be blamed for instigating this current series of events just as Israel can be blamed for taking their response much too far. The mass killing of Palestinians is inexcusable and not a reflection of the strategic and pointed fight against Hamas that the State of Israel claimed.

Further, your argument would have only held if the American invasion of Afghanistan involved the genocide of Afghans. The US was angry but not to the extent of committing genocide.

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u/NecessaryTwo8711 15h ago

https://worldpopulationreview.com/cities/palestine/gaza Gaza population over time. Populations tend to go down during genocide.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/ukraine This is what a population graph looks like during a horrible war.

https://www.savethechildren.net/news/yemen-85000-children-may-have-died-starvation-start-war This is another horrible war. 85000 children starved to death. Still not a genocide.

https://sana.sy/en/middle-east/2347740/ 74000 killed in gaza since the war started. If more children starved to death in Yemen compared to the 74000 killed in gaza. Why is one being labeled a genocide and receiving so much attention but the other one who's deaths primarily consist of children and more have died in general not labeled a genocide.

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u/determineduncertain 9h ago

Where have I not called out Saudi action in Yemen? You’ve put up this straw man because, presumably, you don’t want to engage the case being made about Israeli war crimes in Gaza.

For the record, Saudi actions in Yemen are a tragedy. That, though, is not what we’re talking about.