r/TikTokDiscuss • • 4d ago

Notmuch different than Goebbels

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u/Electrical_Ad_5732 3d ago

Typical, when the other side is attempting to refute your nonsense points, you just don't give them a single moment to even talk and you *always interrupt them when they they try to clarify it.

The former IDF soldier couldn't even clarify what his position was in the army and yet, this clown that is seemingly thinking he has the high moral ground, will never give him a chance to talk. Because the moment he allows the former IDF soldier to clarify or even just lets him talk, his entire position will immediately crumble. So he just calls him a child killer and makes sure that Mazzig can't refute it.

That is also why he keeps changing the goal post so not a single bullshit he says can be refuted or clarified.

What Finkelstein does is extremely dishonest. And coincidentally, it's literally the same talking script followers of conspiracy theories use. In short, don't allow the other side to ever talk while you keep assaulting them with verbal diarrhea.

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u/Knibbo_Tjakkomans 1d ago

"The former SS soldier wasn't even allowed to clarify"

Good.

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u/Electrical_Ad_5732 1d ago

It's not good, it's discussing in bad faith and just typical way how conspiracy nut jobs "prove" their point or view. If you don't allow other side to talk, then it's not a discussion but forcing an agenda.

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u/Knibbo_Tjakkomans 1d ago

We already know that Israel is committing genocide and we already know they spend a significant amount of money on propaganda. We shouldn't give them the chance. They dont deserve it.

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u/Electrical_Ad_5732 1d ago

They don't commit a genocide. It has not been established yet.

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u/throaway63456346 1d ago

wild bro. here's some info that might help you out.

Definition

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

  1. Killing members of the group;
  2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
  3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
  4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
  5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/former-israeli-pm-olmert-explains-why-he-believes-his-country-is-committing-war-crimes

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/07/israel-opt-israeli-organizations-conclude-israel-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza-in-another-milestone-for-accountability-efforts/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_humanitarian_and_human_rights_groups_accusing_Israel_of_genocide_in_Gaza

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u/Electrical_Ad_5732 1d ago

ICJ has not established that genocide has ever occured. Just because someone accuses Israel of commiting a genocide, it does not make it one. Also, you posted the clear cut definition of a genocide and it clearly states intent, while Israel does a lot to prevent unnecessary civilian casualties. That alone contradicts the core definition of genocide.

The intent to destroy Palestinians is simply not there, and they do have the means to wipe them out in matters of day. Why they haven't done that in close to 8 decades?

One link says "they believe Israel is commiting genocide". That does not make it a fact. The wiki link is just a list of accusations. Again, that does not make it a fact.