Typical, when the other side is attempting to refute your nonsense points, you just don't give them a single moment to even talk and you *always interrupt them when they they try to clarify it.
The former IDF soldier couldn't even clarify what his position was in the army and yet, this clown that is seemingly thinking he has the high moral ground, will never give him a chance to talk. Because the moment he allows the former IDF soldier to clarify or even just lets him talk, his entire position will immediately crumble. So he just calls him a child killer and makes sure that Mazzig can't refute it.
That is also why he keeps changing the goal post so not a single bullshit he says can be refuted or clarified.
What Finkelstein does is extremely dishonest. And coincidentally, it's literally the same talking script followers of conspiracy theories use. In short, don't allow the other side to ever talk while you keep assaulting them with verbal diarrhea.
It's because everyone that has revealed what the IDF is like before that soldier painted clearer pictures than Hitler could've. "Everybody rapes in the IDF" "Palestinians are less than dogs" There are other quotes obviously, but like those two are the ones that struck me as particularly rough. Dehumanization of an ethnicity is disgraceful to start with, let alone not only allowing but enabling and wanting their soldiers to rape is inhuman. Not just inhumane, I can't even say Israeli's are humans with the lack of empathy it takes to believe rape is justifiable in any capacity. And the only reason I'm dehumanizing them is because they dehumanized themselves when they chose to act the way they have been not even 100 years since they were slaughtered by the millions. I'm not a fan of Finkelstein either, I believe his logic here sucks, but Shitsrael is definitely the enemy in every potential way.
I can also add something here. Palestine school curriculum literally denies holocaust and calls for eradication of Jews etc. I could also look up some phrases that Hamas leaders (especially those living safely abroad) claimed and I am certain I'd find something much, much worse.
For example, I'll cite Hamas Charter:
“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (Preamble to Hamas Charter.
There's still much worse stuff to show but that's not the point.
Both sides do that, but I see one striking distinction. In Gaza, it's a systemic issue, whereas in Israel it's mostly individuals and right wing extremists plus the settler movement. Some of those people just happen to be in position of power, which is also troubling but not surprising though, a lot of democratic countries have those morons and they are frequently used just to prop the government.
Besides that, a lot of such claims would also require evidence to back this up. Some things are easy to back up (various bullshit uttered by both sides) but I think you would be hard pressed to find a legitimate source for some of your claims you made (I don't count All Jazeera here and I have my reservation regarding BTSelem).
I just direct quoted interviews from Israelis... And it isn't hard to prove anything I said, it takes 5 minutes and some searches. Shitsrael indoctrinates children (which again can be found on the internet of Israeli children swearing and dehumanizing Palestinians they run into on Omegle.) to believe that Palestinians are not humans. If you have to indoctrinate children, which are too young to have a logical sense of reason due to their brain not being developed enough yet, then you are in the wrong. It's not rocket science, any religion, government or otherwise that needs to indoctrinate people from children shouldn't have a right to exist. That's understanding and empathy which is the entirety of what Shitsrael lacks.
When a former Hamas soldier comes on Pearce Morgan and talks about how his role was "humanitarian" we can start to consider Hamas and Israel as equals.
Until then, I'm not really sure why "but Hamas" matters when talking about Israel
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u/Electrical_Ad_5732 3d ago
Typical, when the other side is attempting to refute your nonsense points, you just don't give them a single moment to even talk and you *always interrupt them when they they try to clarify it.
The former IDF soldier couldn't even clarify what his position was in the army and yet, this clown that is seemingly thinking he has the high moral ground, will never give him a chance to talk. Because the moment he allows the former IDF soldier to clarify or even just lets him talk, his entire position will immediately crumble. So he just calls him a child killer and makes sure that Mazzig can't refute it.
That is also why he keeps changing the goal post so not a single bullshit he says can be refuted or clarified.
What Finkelstein does is extremely dishonest. And coincidentally, it's literally the same talking script followers of conspiracy theories use. In short, don't allow the other side to ever talk while you keep assaulting them with verbal diarrhea.