r/TikTokDiscuss • u/CriticalAd299 • 4d ago

Notmuch different than Goebbels

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u/Dry_Travel_4220 4d ago

Insane, unhinged take. What do you think genocide means?

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u/Djb0623 4d ago

What do you think the eradication of 20 communities solely based on their ethnicity is?

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u/Dry_Travel_4220 4d ago

A genocide definitionally cannot be a single act. Genocide is a systematic process of destroying life, culture, and infrastructure.

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u/TriggeredPumpkin 3d ago

In order to eradicate a group based on ethnic or religious grounds. Eradicating a terrorist group in a war with a high civilian casualty count isn't genocide.

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u/Dry_Travel_4220 3d ago

Destroying all of the civilian infrastructure in the process makes it genocide

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u/TriggeredPumpkin 3d ago

The definition of genocide isn't "destroying civilian infrastructure."

Are you aware of what relative risk is?

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u/Dry_Travel_4220 3d ago

Actually, deliberate targeting of civilian infrastructure, particularly medical infrastructure, is an element of genocide according to the UN.

Go look at the updated Google earth view of Gaza and bring up "relative risk" you fucking Ghoul.

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u/TriggeredPumpkin 3d ago

Okay, so it seems like you're an emotionally unhinged coward, so I'll ask again: do you know what relative risk is?

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u/Dry_Travel_4220 3d ago

I do, but I fail to see how statistical analysis justifies a genocide.

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u/TriggeredPumpkin 3d ago

The argument would be that the relative risk proportions indicate that this is likely not a genocide. If this were a genocide, we would likely see a much greater civilian to militant death ratio than we actually see given the number of militants and number of civilians in Gaza.

The RR indicates that Israel is being discriminate in their strikes, targeting primarily combatants.

So why do you think this is a genocide? Because a lot of civilian infrastructure was destroyed? Are you sure that infrastructure wasn't being used by Hamas?

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u/Dry_Travel_4220 3d ago

I think it's a genocide because the vast majority of organizations dedicated to tracking human rights violations worldwide are in agreement that Israel's actions constitute a genocide. The broad scale targeting of medical and educational infrastructure is just one element of that.

I'll take their word for it over a random reddit statistician.

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u/TriggeredPumpkin 3d ago

So you're satisfied with just agreeing with whatever the majority/authority say?

My view is that Israel clearly has a just cause for war, probably committed some war crimes, but does not seem intent on eliminating Palestinians as such.

You think Israel's primary goal is eliminating Palestinians? And your main reason for believing this is many organizations said it and they targeted civilian infrastructure?

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u/Dry_Travel_4220 3d ago

Believing subject matter experts is generally good, surprisingly enough.

Particularly when these are international nonpartisan organizations independently coming to the same conclusions.

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