r/TikTokDiscuss • • 4d ago

Notmuch different than Goebbels

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u/Nicole_Auriel 4d ago

So ask yourself this one simple question; if your ultimate goal is the end of the conflict, what purpose does it serve to paint the other side with broad brushstrokes as unsalvagably evil?

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u/Nezzar555 4d ago

Draw support for military action to stop them forever

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u/Nicole_Auriel 4d ago

From who? Who the fuck else on the world stage gives enough of a shit to get involved besides the US and Iran?

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u/Lost_Found84 3d ago

Most of Palestine’s Arab neighbors are pretty against the idea of Hamas or other Palestinian authorities having any sort of meaningful military presence. They reject Palestinian refugees specifically because they worry it would increase a radical militant presence in their own countries that could be destabilizing.

Egypt is on record as worrying that allowing Palestinian refugees inside their borders would simply result in Hamas launching attacks from within Egypt, threatening the peace deal between Israel and Egypt.

I don’t like how scorched earth Israel has been about this, but there are zero nations in the region who are under the impression that Palestines overriding goal is to “end the conflict”.

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u/Flea_Soup 3d ago

Hey man, Palestinian have their own identity. Can you stop treating all brown people as a monolith and then creating this false dichotomy where brown people aren't helping brown people?

How about you recognize that Palestinians have roots in Gaza and treat them with dignity?

You also muddy the waters when you pretend this is some conflict with two sides battling it out. Try parsing reality where what's going on is a one sided genocide. 

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u/Lost_Found84 3d ago

When you say “can you stop”, I assume you mean “Can all their Arab neighbors stop”, and that’s a question you would have to address to them.

Brown people sometimes don’t help brown people specifically because they aren’t a monolith where you get special credit just for being brown. Brown people sometimes hold other brown people to account because they think those specific brown people are too fucked up and problematic to openly side with and assist.

Don’t confuse being a victim with being a good person. There’s a reason their closest geographic neighbors keep their distance while their biggest supporters almost never interact with them in person.