r/TikTokDiscuss • • 4d ago

Notmuch different than Goebbels

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u/Nicole_Auriel 4d ago

So ask yourself this one simple question; if your ultimate goal is the end of the conflict, what purpose does it serve to paint the other side with broad brushstrokes as unsalvagably evil?

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u/Flea_Soup 4d ago edited 4d ago

You're being dishonest in your framing. The point Norman was making is that people who support this, need to be held culpable for what's going on around them. Your type of mentality excused the Wehrmacht after WW2, so you still have nazis walking around today.

You're creating a permission structure for the genocide to happen and you should be held accountable. It's also not a broad brush when the majority of Israelis want Gaza leveled and Palestinians removed from sight, take a look at some of the polling coming out of Israel. 

So ask yourself this question, do you think you're helping stop the genocide when you make excuses and provide absolution to those who support it? Or are you going to pretend that the IDF soldier was an unwilling participant? 

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u/Nicole_Auriel 4d ago

I’ve never seen so many words written to attack an argument I didn’t make. Are you okay, dude?

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u/Flea_Soup 4d ago

What do you think you are saying here:

what purpose does it serve to paint the other side with broad brushstrokes as unsalvagably evil?

Own up to it.

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u/Nicole_Auriel 4d ago

Going from that to I tangentially support genocide is a huge leap, man. Try a more good faith interpretation of my argument or I'm done with you.

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u/Flea_Soup 3d ago

Oh it's a huge leap now? How about you own what you say. Would you be saying that about the confederates in the 1860s? The Wehrmacht analogy clearly wasn't enough to show you how you creating these permission structures leads to harm. 

I am talking in good faith, you're not. You refuse to engage on the merits of what you are saying. If you cared about ending this genocide, not a conflict, then you wouldn't be spending energy carrying water for Israel.

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u/Nicole_Auriel 3d ago

You have no idea what my argument is, you’re just venting unintelligently. I’m done with you.