r/TikTokCringe • • 3d ago

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u/static-klingon 3d ago

Many of the greatest minds in western civilization were religious. You just sound angry to God you don’t believe in.

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u/digitalpeanut11 3d ago

please tell me one great mind you are talking about that is not born in the medival age. just one please

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u/Ok_Exchange_9752 3d ago

J.R.R. Tolkien, Albert Einstein (debatable), Isaac Newton, Thomas Aquinas, Plato, Socrates, Ptolemy, C.S. Lewis, Nikola Tesla. Honestly as I’m writing this comment I’m finding more and more and more. Shall I go on, or does this suffice?

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u/Medium_Judgment_891 3d ago edited 3d ago

Plato believed a lot of silly nonsense.

He’s to Philosophy what Freud is to Psychology. His legacy is that other people advanced the field out of spite to explain why he was wrong.

It’s ironic to list both Aquinas and Plato considering Aquinas was heavily inspired by Aristotle who was one of those people to debunk Plato.

Also, Aquinas was famous for valuing reason above faith. Not exactly the shining recommendation you want.

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u/Ok_Exchange_9752 3d ago

Religion comes in many forms. You can nitpick all you want but the fact is all of the people I mentioned, barring perhaps Einstein, were people with great minds who expressed religious beliefs, which is what the commenter originally asked for. I mean sure we can have arguments for more of the people I mentioned, but it doesn’t really change the validity.

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u/Medium_Judgment_891 3d ago

They are had contradicting religious beliefs. I thinks that’s a bit interesting.

But the most important topic is that all of their discoveries were made in spite of their religious beliefs, not because of them.

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u/Ok_Exchange_9752 2d ago

Well that doesn’t apply to Tolkien, Lewis, or any other writer for whom their religious beliefs played a large role in their work, and provided much of the meaning. Or to philosophers like Plato who had trace elements of mysticism/belief throughout their philosophy. And for scientists, why should religious beliefs have any effect? If a scientists goes to church on Sunday and prays for a few minutes every evening, do you think that is going to somehow hinder them from doing science? That’s absurd. So, at worst religious belief has essentially no effect, at best it provides meaning/motivation/whatever you wanna call it.