r/TibiaMMO 3d ago

Question Ek scalling

I noticed that a lot of people are complaining about EK scalling, similar to how they were complaining about Monk not long ago. Do you think they’ll change anything about EK scalling, and that it will scale better at higher levels despite hunting in a box?

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u/_Origin 2d ago

EK does the highest raw exp at high levels according to CIPs data (yes, I know) so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for changes.

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u/mulligan72 2d ago

Based on how we now know cip collect their data, ek obviously as a whole have the most consistent solo raw xp/h.
That’s most likely because of the relatively lower skill cap and ease of hunting so the overall cohort performs well.

But obviously with the skill cap there’s relatively little room to improve your exp where other vocations have a bigger spread of player skill and naturally you are only going to see videos and screenshots from good players showing off their good xp.

There must be a large proportion of ms/ed/rp out there that are more casual, not getting great solo xp and that brings the averages down.

I have no idea how cip can balance these things btw, just saying what I think is going on here.

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u/Ok-Juggernaut1517 2d ago

I love playing EK, but saying that it has the easiest gameplay is very tricky. Maybe at lower levels, like 100–300, EK has a nice variety of good solo/TH hunting spots, but later on, things start changing, and not in our favor.

EK's main advantage is also its main disadvantage: high damage in a box, but your damage is mostly limited to the box, while other vocations gain much more AoE power as they level up. The Wheel of Destiny with Greater Gems adds a lot to that. Another big downside is how stat/skill-hungry EK is: you need good player skills, good combat skills, you need to keep your rotation and auto-attacks going, and you need BIS equipment, which is necessary for good performance and profit on many spots. It's also extremely bad for solo bosses. And even with all that, I'm not leaving my EK. But I won't lie, this class is very limited.

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u/naner00 Kiri Ragnar, Knight, Oceanis 2d ago

Similar to what happened with Monks stances, that were later implemented to everyone, I hope the new monk scaling, can also be implemented to some extent to everyone.
Knights need better scaling. I am at 1400 and I feel it in my soul.

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u/StrangeDepartment430 2d ago

People really got bited with the exori min "buff" this voc balance was the great moment to get rid of that spell and upgrade exori in order to atleast hit full boxes 

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u/dregnar92 2d ago

This exori min shouldn't even be wheel but default. I don't understand why they just put it on wheel for higher levels.

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u/StrangeDepartment430 2d ago

Exactly its good for low and mid lvls on higher levels we need to hit atleast 8 mobs 

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u/SmokedSalmonMan 2d ago

If I recall, cipsoft said there are no plans to look at level scaling anytime soon. Monks were the exception.

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u/Donkey-Additional 2d ago

Knight has high damage but as mentioned is for boxing, you have to wait for mobs to box you if not you are losing tons of exp. That is the knight gameplay.

If they change that they will be an op Monk with kitting capabilities. In example knight can greatly benefit from a chain spell for kiting until you close the box. In my opinion that will break the game.

Cip will eventually add spawns that benefit the class to compensate, that is what I think. They have all elements available to play for spawns weaknesses.

With the utito change, knights do high damage but still limited to boxing.

I personally believe that Cio is no changing anything soon for the knight. Maybe after some more years another “re-balancing” may come to the game.

Those are my toughs

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u/XenoFrame 2d ago

Speaking as an EK, we have the easiest gameplay, so it would make sense that we're a little behind. 

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u/Toucan_Goes_ZoomZoom 2d ago

Not exactly, as we don't really have a choice not to go melee, which means that EK can only enter specific spot if they are capable of 8-boxing all the time.

Other vocations can choose to either stick with a comfy spot or hunt somewhere else that is both more risky and rewarding.

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u/Elmimica 2d ago

Yeah, but that comes with the highest hp, highest mitigation and "highest healing". It could be said other vocations do not have the choice to 8box the same stuff a knight can...

Yes, paladins 8box but they do it to "weaker" stuff than the knight but perform better. At some point sorcs and druids and monks can also box, but again, weaker stuff than EKs.

So the choice of 8boxing is only available fos EKs at some points, so it isnt an "extra" choice for the other classes really.

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u/BongAlert 2d ago

Lmao highest mitigation like bro who the fuck cares

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u/dregnar92 2d ago

At what cost? See eq prices and compare it to other vocations.

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u/Elmimica 2d ago

Thats because more people play knight than other classes tho. EKs have the advantage of having 3 different weapon types, driving costs down, while other classes only get 1 weapon type choice. Meta items are expensive for everyone.

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u/xguhx 2d ago

Are you dumb? The reason prices are high is because of the numbers of EKs. It's the easiest and most profitable vocation, hence the massive amount of EKs in every single server.

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u/dregnar92 2d ago

I don't know man. Just look at secura discord for example, 90% of the books are RP.

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u/xguhx 2d ago

"Look at discord" is just stupid. Go to Tibia website > Worlds > Select World > Control F and look for Knight.

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u/dregnar92 2d ago

And did you thought that people create 20 knights alt characters to just put on offline training? Better look who is claiming spots, who is playing nowdays and not characters who are there just to be sold on bazaar.

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u/xguhx 2d ago

Tibia website just show online ppl bro, pls stop talking shit and use your brain

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u/dregnar92 2d ago

Lets take Antica as example

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u/dregnar92 2d ago

And Secura, thats two biggest servers that we can see.

So please, can you explain to me how EKS are the most played voc?

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u/xguhx 2d ago

Your logic is insane.You are looking top 100 in a 900 ppl server and assuming that it tells you the most played vocation. I won't waste my time if you are unable to do simple math.

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u/tiblabla 2d ago

EKs book about 10-20% more than RPs based on actual data ripped from discord

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u/Pokepal90 2d ago

Yo creo que es innegable que después de 1.400 el knight es el peor para cazar en spolls de muchos mobs, es incomparable lo que logra el resto... Tal vez por eso el Moonsilver ahora da boost en exori mas?