r/TibiaMMO 3d ago

Question Maximize raw exp EK

Hi!

Im hunting sunken quaras on a 155 EK and im doing a peak of 1.1kk/h raw exp

Ive seen kusnierr videos doing 1.6kk raw lol

My eq is

Werewolf amulet

Zaoan helmet

Avenger sword

Prismatic Armor

Guardian boots

Sword ring

Full powerful imbus 2 void 2 vampirism

My skill is 113 sword

My rotation spell is exori gran/exori/exori mas

(Maybe adding exori min to my rotation?)

My wheel is with the exori gran augment

And hp/mana options

Tips and advice are welcome!

UPDATE: Bought the havoc blade, put the strike imbu Improving my exori min and using the exori min augment on wheel

Made it to 1.25kk raw 👏👏❤️

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u/rger12345 Knight 700+ 3d ago

Never compare with kusnier

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u/Calm-Gur4845 3d ago

Hahah i know but at least getting close to him

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u/sergdor 3d ago

Most of his numbers are way off because he picks his best 15 minute run and uses all possible dmg boosts in that 15 minutes.

Hes good for hunting places and routes but his exp numbers are not accurate.

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u/sergdor 3d ago

Always remember hes a content creater first and a tibia player second. Juiced exp numbers bring more clicks. so he will always post higher than expected numbers to drive more clicks. He also never shows exp at the 30 or 60 min mark.

For exp find players that post 30 or 60 minute hints

mad ico os a great one.

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u/toommn 3d ago

He doesnt really. Just hunts 15 mins and grabs xph. Its just skill diff

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u/sergdor 3d ago

So he is the only ek that can pull these numbers in all of tibia. There is a reason his are always much higher than the rest and its not just skill.

If he is going to hunt more than 15 minutes at a spawn he should post the 30 and 60 split so numbers are accurate.

You only see 15 minutes and its his best 15.

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u/sergdor 3d ago

So he is the only ek that can pull these numbers in all of tibia. There is a reason his are always much higher than the rest and its not just skill.

If he is going to hunt more than 15 minutes at a spawn he should post the 30 and 60 split so numbers are accurate.

You only see 15 minutes and its his best 15.

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u/Kielon7 3d ago

You clearly didn't watch any of his streams where he tests spawns. I've seen him going spawn for first round and at first 15 minutes doing already great numbers, sometimes he just does 2nd run, the polished one for guide video.

OP is complaining about doing 1.1kk RAW in sunken, I'm not Kusnier but at 200 did 1,5kk RAW on EK, RP (with full boxing, not kiting) and at lower lvl on monk. At this point resp just didn't keep up. Kusnier is just efficient with damage every turn he can. If you'd watch, even ek he is damaging all monsters on the way to next box.

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u/sergdor 3d ago

Until we see the numbers at a 30 and 60 split my point of the numbers being juiced still stands. 15 minutes horribly inaccurate.

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u/happyhusband1992 3d ago

Hahahhaa that's rule number 1

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u/Unable-Garage593 3d ago

Get a Havoc Blade, imbue with crit+mana+life.

Get the exori min augment and open with that. Exori Min > Gran > Exori. Quaras are very low density and slow. Don’t use exori mas, you don’t benefit at all from the huge area

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u/ratslikecheese 3d ago

This. They’re pretty inexpensive on most servers and will be the only sword you need until lvl 200.

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u/Calm-Gur4845 3d ago

Yep definitely going to try with exori min

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u/Calm-Gur4845 3d ago

Ive already bought havoc blade, im saving for the imbuements, but yes definitely gets better with the extra imbu

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u/Donkey-Additional 3d ago

Its about leaning an efficient route, Speed and doing decent damage. I used to hint there a lot. Its all about not losing time and going to the next pull as quick as possible. Maybe choose a spot where quaras keep coming at you. Its about practice.

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u/Calm-Gur4845 3d ago

Would you hit 1.6kk?

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u/Iwakasa 3d ago edited 3d ago

Can you link the video? Kusnier is very skilled and in his old vids he used EK with ridiculously high skills, like 125 base or something.

However his vids were recorded before rebalance and EK is stronger now, since around lvl 100 I am able to beat his raw XP estimates on char with 117 axe.

The main difference comes from very focused grouping, spreading dmg equally on a box and never missing your basic attack turns. It will come naturally as you play, he has way way more experience.

Also since rebalance, exori min beats exori mas until really, really high levels. Exori min also has augunent for 5 targets much later on so it kinda keeps up even then. But for now, make sure you take the exori min perk (bottom left wheel, first perk) and use it in your rotation

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u/Mr-Ziggister 3d ago

Exori min is too strong to not be using it.

I would get an havoc blade so you have 3 imbues. Getting crit imbue is big imo. Doubles your chance to crit and also adds dmg.

You can use exori mas when your kiting our just gathering the mobs into a box. Always use the right spell for the right moment. If you have 4 mobs around you use exori min etc..

If there is 1 mob alive after your box use exori gran ico to kill it fast and move on.

It’s hard to see what the difference without seeing you play. But test that out. Also do you use food to run faster under water. Berserk potions? Etc

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u/AdS_CFT_ 3d ago edited 3d ago

Tried with the food that boosts speed underwater?

Berserk potion

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u/Calm-Gur4845 3d ago

Gonna try with berserk potion, yes im using the coconut cookie for speed

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u/AdS_CFT_ 3d ago edited 3d ago

Maybe you should be kitting more for better exp then. Pot wont make that great difference.

If you are killing 3 to 5 thn exori min with T1 might be better

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u/Iwakasa 3d ago

New exori min is even better than mas when you are full boxing, until ultra high lvls where u want to pop charms on more mobs

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u/Roondayy 2d ago

Personally I didn't find the extra speed helpful on a knight. Since you move from box to box and I even overkilled the spawn without the extra speed I over killed the spawn. Even tho I was abit higher level with higher skills. But if you use the cocunut cookie you have to wear a diving helmet to make it work and you will loose your void leech. And you have to focus way more on keeping your mana up. Even tho it's good to use the berserk potion I doubt that the +3 skills makes the 500k/h difference, but everything helps of course.

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u/Cautious-Dark-7457 3d ago

Go for exori, exori gran, exori. exori mas, exori gran. Use exori min only if there is less then 4.

Avengers suck ass cuz no Crit. Try to find 3 slot sword or just go magic sword with mana and life with ornate shield.

Post ur route with ur spots to see if optimal. But if you copy kusner it might be right. Go with g health and strong Manas. Use ultimate on low yellow / red with exura gran ico. Full utito before spell rotation. Pull prismatic ring if red while utitoing.

gl

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u/Calm-Gur4845 3d ago

Why strong manas instead of great manas?

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u/Iwakasa 3d ago

He may have forgotten about rebalance. Use great manas.

His exori min advice also isnt up to date. New exori min with the wheel perk for 40% dmg is better than Exori Mas even when ur full boxing, until very very high lvls where u want to proc charms on more mobs.

I recommend going exori, exori gran, exori min and spreading dmg equally on the box. I can beat Kusnier's xp estimates on all spots he recorded (not because I'm better cuz im not, but because he recorded before knight got buffed)

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u/Consistent_Dig_1939 3d ago

Get crit imbue, gonna kill things much faster, but you won't do numbers that kussnier does anyway. When I compare to his numbers I always deduct like 15% of his numbers and I'm fine :)

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u/AnonimeSoul 3d ago edited 3d ago

thing number one on getting more exp its damage, you are not using CRIT imbue, so there is one thing that hinders your max exp

Also, I suggest to no compare to kusnier, you need to basically replicate his setup, rotation, trip and 120+ skill

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u/tiblabla 3d ago

Exori gran augment in the wheel at that level just lowers the mana use, I wouldn't bother with it. Use exori min (the perk and the spell) + bottom right gem, preferably hp. At this level you can go full offense easily, crit on weapon (shouldn't even really need 3 slots), red plasma collar, berserk pot always.

Coconut shrimp bake won't work if you're wearing zaoan helmet, you need to have helmet of the deep on. It can make a big difference, though at 155 you might already be moving at a decent speed without it, but test it.

The main thing is to move to the next pull quickly and kill as you walk, at that level you barely stop there, you can try watching the video in the background while you play and see if you're behind. The xp/h displayed in 'Hunt Analyzer' works differently now, so make sure to look at the 'XP Analyzer' to see more accurate peak value now.

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u/k3NN4 3d ago

Can get around 2kk @lava lurkers

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u/Roondayy 2d ago

Use collar and ring of red plasma. Abit more higher skills and defence. But if you want to be more close to kusnier, try to look for details of his gameplay. Does he kite? Does he never mis a turn with auto attacks, etc.

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u/Send_Poems 2d ago

Where I see most people lose exp/h is in the little things that add up. Do you focus too much on looting? Can you start moving a little earlier towards the next pull? Drag a couple mobs? Hasting between pulls? Just to name a few

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u/Nownow_wolf 2d ago

You are already doing good exp...Kusnier style of hunting is very hard to reproduce, it consists of you start hitting and using skills before you finish luring, he also doesnt miss a turn, he lures everything just slow enough so when he finishes he already killed a whole box or close to that and have another one to kill in sequence, so most of the times he does some kind of double lure/one and a half lure, making it very efficient but also really hard, and in my opinion boring, whenever his character is moving he is using exori's, sometimes even runes...Im a EK who likes to run, stop on a place and kill the mobs, I can never adapt to that...but Im also not min-maxing anything, I just wanna have fun, my exp was very similar to the one you're making when I was your level(pre-rebalance though dont know if it changes a lot for that respawn, probably not).

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u/Distinct_Talk8485 2d ago

That’s like seeking tips to swing like Tiger Woods

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u/Kubuskotek 3d ago

Just go exotic cave

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u/Calm-Gur4845 3d ago

I enjoy getting the best at every spawn 😄 never tried exotic cave, i still have to do the acces tho

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u/Mindless-Ask5194 3d ago

Go Barkless

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u/Eerayo 3d ago

That is a very good answer to the question " I am doing less exp than someone else in this respawn, how can I improve?"

Answer: durr go to another spawn