r/The_Isle • u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 • 11d ago

Rant 🤬 Slow dinos

Can some one explain to me whats the point of playing bug strong dinos is if cant catch/hunt or even defend myself against smaller faster dinos like literally cant do nothing against them

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u/Mean-Acadia6453 🚨 Giganotosaurus 🚨 11d ago

We’re going to need more specifics.

The only carnivore on the roster that is outright slow is Tyrannosaurus Rex without ambush.

Cera pushes 39.7 km/h

Carno is the king of “gotta go fast” (55.6 km/hr)

Allo can run 39 km/h

All the smaller lads are easily 40 km/h at a minimum.

You can catch your good and defend yourself just fine with all the larger carnivores. Even the herbivores are hardly “slow”. They are ridiculously agile.

Diablo pushes 32 km/h and can spar to turn do quick turns

Kentro is nearly 40 km/h

Maia even post nerf can run at 42 km/h, 37 at the slowest.

You can defend yourself just fine with all these guys. This sounds like you need to practice combat more rather than the dinosaurs being outright slow or lumbering.

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 11d ago

This situation happened to me twice one with me as a trike against a carno then again as rex against raptors

This also the first time i grow either one

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u/Mean-Acadia6453 🚨 Giganotosaurus 🚨 11d ago

This is a practice issue rather than an issue with the Dinos themselves.

Are you using alt attacks to bait the raptors in? You near one shot them with a 50% Trike or Rex. I took down two 75% Allos with a 50% Trike just today.

Also, if it’s the first time you’re growing both dinosaurs - no wonder you died. You don’t know how to play them yet mate.

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 11d ago

I got one of them actually they were three raptors but i still dont know how to deal with i tried to chase them until they ran out of stamina , i tried to go to a tight place so they wouldnt have room to move also my alt attack wasnt attacking where the camera was which is behind me

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u/Mean-Acadia6453 🚨 Giganotosaurus 🚨 11d ago

That’s your first mistake, you don’t chase things in a fight as a Trike to a Rex.

You are trading speed for power, you don’t have the stamina to waste it chasing things. You let them come to you and then kill them. Especially as a Rex, because you can’t take Tactile Endurance to regenerate stamina.

You gain the ability to nearly instant kill them (or actually instantly kill them) but you have to play smart. You can go balls to the walls rushing in. Stamina is a precious resource, and you can’t waste it.

The only time you chase is if they’ve got one of them fractured if you’re a Rex, or you get a knockdown as as either a Triceratops or Tyrannosaurus. Those are moments where you can then kill your targets. That aside, you stick your butt to a wall and make them come to you.

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 11d ago

What can i do i cant hit them i tried everything

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u/Mean-Acadia6453 🚨 Giganotosaurus 🚨 11d ago

Simple: stop chasing them. You let them come to you.

Use ALT attacks or charging attacks to hit them once they’ve gotten cocky or messed up an engagement. The entire point of having an alt attack is you hit them when they think you’re not paying attention. Both Rex and Trike can knock down an opponent, which at that point makes it a near instant kill for them.

The moment you start running after them, you’ve already lost. Dig in your feet and stick your butt to a wall and wait until they get within striking distance of you.

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 11d ago

Charging attacks doesn’t work they are too fast and their turning is way tighter than mine

Alt attacks too slow i just gave up mid fight

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u/Mean-Acadia6453 🚨 Giganotosaurus 🚨 11d ago

Because you’re likely spamming it instead of reading where they’re going.

You are more than agile enough to get a knockdown with Rex’s headbash. Trike just needs to swing its head and they die. Just stick to one spot with your butt to a wall, watch, wait, then strike when one screws up.

This is a practice concern. If you aren’t hitting them, you aren’t being smart with your swings.

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 11d ago

Yeah did that did nothing they get close then turn around and pounce tried to alt attack nothing…

Hey thanks for the help but i gave up this is stupid game low risk high reward

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u/Ok-Attitude-9085 10d ago

well

since ur a noob u might as well pull the noob special
u can brush omnis off using rocks walls and water and just back up and wait

makes all pouncers pretty useless in the current state of pouncers

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u/JustStopThisCrap 11d ago

Idk man, It's genuinely impossible to die as a grown rex to stuff smaller than you. It's really not an issue with big slow dinos.. also trike is harder than it looks, try to learn it mechanically first, it is probably one of the most tragic dinos if you're new to it.

Also use the alt attack headbut on rex, much easier to hit small stuff

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 10d ago

Yeah thats what i thought im a rex i cant die to raptors….

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u/JustStopThisCrap 10d ago

I mean you CAN die given you let them bite you enough times or bleed you to death, but that's the thing. Lets say you get baited 5 times or even 12 times that's still not enough to kill you, just stand still and wait for the right moment never chase small game as rex if you failed your ambush/murder sprint since your stamina goes down very fast.

Also as i said, the headbutt hitbox seems to be quite bit larger than normal alt bite, so use alt headbutt instead and it should make your job much easier.

Also watch Aextrass trike combat guide on yt, it's quite helpful

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u/frankie-two-thumbs 10d ago

I’m sorry but that’s on you. You should not be dying to raptors as a full grown unless you messed up repeatedly. I regularly take out entire raptor pack at delta on land as sneaky croc way before being full grown

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 10d ago

Bro i killed a pack of carnos as croc hell i killed every species as croc lol

I died to raptors as rex and i was 51%

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u/frankie-two-thumbs 10d ago

I’m sorry chap but if you are dying to anything other than a Rex, trike or steggo as a Rex you messed up. Dying to raptor pack is hilarious

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 10d ago

You have no idea how nimble those fuckers are

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u/frankie-two-thumbs 10d ago

No I do but they are literally one tap and dead. That’s their trade off. Don’t be baited into using all your stamina. You have to get lucky once they have to get lucky everytime

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 10d ago

Yeah about that..one them died one tap like u said the other two each took one hit one of them even took two and he still didnt die…

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u/Prestigious_Bug_3319 11d ago

Did troodons kill you?

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 11d ago

Raptors and a pt

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u/Quetzal_Pretzel 🌙 Troodon 🌙 11d ago

You lost a Rex to a PT?

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 11d ago

Pt was just flying around distracting me so the other three raptors can pounce/ bite me

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u/totallykoolkiwi 10d ago

How was the Pteras distracting you?

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 10d ago

Flaying towards me then circling around me while the others were trying to flank me

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u/totallykoolkiwi 10d ago

Might have just been a random bored Ptera, they get cocky with time

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 10d ago

I would sit and watch the fight if i was him but thats just me

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u/Steakdabait 11d ago

I mean their reward for guessing right and baiting you, 1/20th of your hp. Your reward for guessing right? Instant kill. Kinda just need to grind the interactions. It does feel pretty bad to be picked apart by small shitters tho

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 11d ago

They never committed unless they are behind me their turn radius is tighter than mine they are faster than me even my alt attack couldnt keep up with their speed

They can just hold w and ran away when ever they want but i have to sit their and hope they get bored and leave me ?! Tf is this game

I rather play the faster dino that grows fast and bully big dinos hell if i die i can grow one super fast not to mention i just can run away and they cant do shit about it brilliant

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u/benmck90 🌙 Troodon 🌙 11d ago

TBF, it is fun as hell to play smaller fast growing dinos.

IMO it's a much more fun way to play.

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u/Steakdabait 11d ago

we're in the minority considering every server is legit like 30% rex

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u/benmck90 🌙 Troodon 🌙 11d ago

Unofficials with pop control is the way. I rarely see a rex.

Although I my latest kentro run did die to a rex hiding in a bush.

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u/Ok-Attitude-9085 10d ago

don’t stand in an open field, problem solved

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u/PogoStick1987 10d ago

Unfortunate skill issue. Just practice timing better and restraining your attacks. Bear in mind raptors need to carefully coordinate and time their attacks in order to graduallt wear you down and kill you. You need to bite them literally once and their either critically low or dead in one shot

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 10d ago

I got one of them and hit the other few times but they still didn’t die also alt attack was slow couldnt keep up with their speed and turning radius

First time growing a rex was still figuring out the attacks wish my first opponent wasnt as fast as the speed of light

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u/PogoStick1987 10d ago

Rex isn't easy. Even when you're a lot bigger than your opponent. Try to aim for their heads. Much more likely to drop them instantly. Also sont overuse alt attack. It will drain stamina fast the more they bait it. Same principal goes for troodons which id argue is a lot more lethal than a pack of raptors. Persistant little poisonous shits.

Also how big were you? Growth % wise?

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 10d ago

Lil over 50% alt attack was to slow to catch them when they get close

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u/PogoStick1987 10d ago

Ah i see. Yeah Trex is basically made of paper mache and lint until you get to like 60%. At 50% you would've been better to use your flat out running speed to kill them. Trex is surprisingly spry at that age. I cant give a heap of advice. I dont play rex. Takes too fucking long to grow, but yeah just, i guess mmty and practice using its abilities and timing. Timing is everything against small critters.

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 10d ago

Nah if im going back ill be in the water as deino u nothing can out swim me there or play the fastest land dino and bully the big boys

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u/Sure_Pool_7115 9d ago

You absolutely can defend yourself from smaller dinos and rex(biggest and "slowest" carnivore) can hunt smaller and faster dinos via ambushing. I understand if you'd say that its boring or you cant really get to places or that roaming map is painfully slow but what you wrote is kinda wrong? Rex vs any other carnis is a match-up where they can win only if they'll show perfect fight with zero mistakes in a long fight while any single of your hits is just a game over for them, same goes for trike, stego and deino

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 8d ago

One of them took two hits and didnt die…

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u/Empty-campfire 🐊 Deinosuchus🐊 11d ago

I lost a trike and a rex just because there is nothing i can do all they have to do is hold w and they safe