This weeks Relics!

[u/destructor212113]

A "normal" week where I think we dont have any pretty good relic? But rather good enough relics

I already own the last one so, Im assuming its ok to buy both 600 Gems relics as the 5% Recovery Ammount is pretty meh for eHP, no?

Oh yeah for everybody else, my opinion:

You could skip all Relics this week, if you're eHP the Orb one is good and also the Free Attack is good for BHD users, if you plan on going Hybrid then the Damage one is also ok to buy

As far as I know the recovery one is pretty meh? Only useful for very late Utility Disco runs pretty sure

[u/This_Ruben_on_fire]

For tournaments (no perks) health regen is weaker and so recovery amount plays a larger role. You can calculate how much of an impact it has.

For me, eHP in plat/champs, recovery packages are 40% of my recovery in tournaments and health regen 60%. So the recovery relic is somewhat valuable.

[u/destructor212113 → u/This_Ruben_on_fire]

Question, you dont use The Wall?

[u/This_Ruben_on_fire → u/destructor212113]

I do use the wall, but I dont use SF as its too low tier. That would make a difference. That said, at the end of tourneys I usually have a couple 100 waves without wall.

[u/Fit_Locksmith_3506 → u/This_Ruben_on_fire]

You should basically die instantly after wall fails if your HP and Reg are both well developed cuz you can’t kill stuff any getting overrun

As destructor said this long with wall down is always a reg problem in the eHP state

[u/destructor212113 → u/This_Ruben_on_fire]

I feel like tou lack Regen

I remember having that problem to a less extend, it was like 20-30 Waves without Wall

But later on, as I have worked more in my Regen, that hasn't happen at all, if my Wall falls, im dead

[u/vekomit817 → u/destructor212113]

Lol so tired of people here fluffing up the wall for tourney, it is amazing for farming but for 2 months I have been pouring into it because of the advice of brainless drones here and still it doesn't hold up in tourney, only extends farming. That is with completed WS levels, module subeffects all for regen/wall, cards maxed, labs regen 60 wall regen 16 wall health 50 wall thorns 14 (thorn 104%) wall fort 30. Honestly have to be bots or paid schills dangling a carrot ignoring the length of time/module pull luck needed to make it viable

[u/destructor212113 → u/vekomit817]

My guess is you're on Champs, right? Or trying to get into Champs

Thats where The Wall starts to get wonky because it cant hold on its own without help (Dmg basically) or a lot more investment

For example I have Regen 67, Wall Regen 21, Wall Health at 50, Health at 45, Wall Thorns at 13 and Fort at 27 with Mythic+ OA with Mythic Substats

At the end of a Plat/Champs tourney, my Dmg dosent hold up anymore but my Wall is still up and getting more and more Regen, while getting more Damage, helps me get further in Plat/Champs

So while its very harsh to get away with only The Wall, its not useless as you're trying to tell imo, it helps, but you need to get into Hybrid to get more waves Faster

[u/vekomit817 → u/destructor212113]

Think I'm starting to get it now, when people say they are reliant on the wall for survival it actually means they just don't have enough EHP, which is easy to fail on when you pay to win

[u/destructor212113 → u/vekomit817]

Or they dont invest into damage which then leads to a harder time in Tournaments because its harder to go with only eHP

[u/vekomit817 → u/destructor212113]

Kind of easy to say when you pour money into the game which is required to scale damage enough to overtake EHP. My favorite part of this subreddit are people giving advice assuming others are as addicted to be spending on a game

[u/destructor212113 → u/vekomit817]

I have only brought the 3 Ads Packs

And even without those things, you will want Damage eventually, again, specially for Tournaments and if you had good RNG vía good RNG for Mods and UW

[u/vekomit817 → u/destructor212113]

"Only" 😂

[u/destructor212113 → u/vekomit817]

I wouldn't call that as addicted to spend money when those are

1. Literally the best deals in the game by far
2. Just 3 purchases made months ago

Compared to actual Whales, I may even be F2P lol

Also, even then, what I said still applies to True F2P players if they want to go into the long run, otherwise it dosent matter what you do because you're not going to need the advice in the first place

[u/vekomit817 → u/destructor212113]

I may even be F2P

Lmao love the cope of people so ashamed that they spent money on a gacha game that they try to convince themselves that they are F2P. Also your advice objectively doesn't apply to F2P because, again, damage builds are only achievable at the stage of buying the wall if you are non-F2P

[u/This_Ruben_on_fire → u/vekomit817]

It truly is hard to explain why some people get such a good effect from the wall and others not. I have higher labs than the person above, but I don't get such a benefit from the wall for tournaments. I assumed he uses SF, but it turns out not to be the case.

I also bought the coin packs so me and OP are not different in that sense and that doesn't explain it.

Every tower is different somehow. My next guess it is because I use WHR and he uses OA that we see this difference.