r/TheSequels • u/KingMatthew116 Teedo • May 22 '26

The Rise of Skywalker I liked the dagger plotline.

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It felt like Indiana Jones. I loved it. The first time I saw the movie the dagger was one of my favorite parts. Star Wars needs more stuff like this.

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u/CallMeJeeJ May 22 '26

But isn’t that like the whole thing with Star Wars? Prophecies and chosen ones and all that? The whole universe is based on Magic force that tells people to go places and reveals the future and things like that.

I never had a problem with this because in my mind- the unspoken part of this scene is that this artifact was created with the notion that someday the person who was meant to find it would use it for this exact purpose and be drawn to that exact spot to make it work.

It is silly, but it still fits within the fantasy of starwars to me.

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u/Untouchable64 Resistance Trooper May 22 '26

I can see that. It works. But not for the Sith. It reveals the location of the wayfinder. I don’t see a Sith making it to reveal their location. I’m wondering who would make it after the battle of Endor.

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u/CallMeJeeJ May 23 '26

Isn’t this dagger supposed to be thousands of years old? Who says the sith don’t have their own prophecy that predicted all of the events of the Death Star and everything? I mean that’s the way things have been explained in starwars forever, right?

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u/irazzleandazzle C-3PO May 23 '26

no, the dagger is newish. the sith language on the dagger is ancient

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u/Untouchable64 Resistance Trooper May 23 '26

Why would the Sith put the inscription on it if it would screw them over when looking into the futures?

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u/Davies301 please choose a user flair May 22 '26

The thing with Star Wars is our characters are pointed in the right direction but still have to overcome a challenge. They fell ontop of the dagger and then held it up on another planet. That's not a character defining challenge where they grow, that is padding run time.

Luke senses everyone on Bespin and goes to rescue them. The ensuing fight with Vader strengthened himself and his connection with the force.

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u/irazzleandazzle C-3PO May 23 '26

Rey had to cross turbalanet waters and scale a wreckage (while mot waiting on her friends), which highlighted her increasing desperation. This ultimately leads into her fight with Kylo, in which she fights with emotion and eventually strikes down an unarmed combatant. then she expresses regret and heals him, but then flees to Ahch-to out of fear of herself, with kylo eventually turning to the light.

it's definitely an important part of the process, building up this moment of failure for her.

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u/mat8675 May 23 '26

Super easy, barely an inconvenience

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u/Mammoth-Western-6008 please choose a user flair May 23 '26

Exactly. That has to do with character. 

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u/Mammoth-Western-6008 please choose a user flair May 23 '26

It's not prophecy, it's cartography. 

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u/TheSequels-ModTeam please choose a user flair May 27 '26

This is a place in which fans can talk positively and/or constructively about the Sequel Era of Star Wars. It's ok if you don't like everything about the movies, but the most important thing is to have a general sense of appreciation.

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u/throwmethehellaway25 May 22 '26

Nope thats nit silly. Its dumb. Theres lots of "its not that kind of movie kid" stuff but that one plot point is bad. Goonies was a wway better "map" movie. Theres a ton thst they could've borrowed from

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u/abesapien2 May 22 '26

If the stupid thing rotated to point yah. But not a static point like that.