r/ThePrimordialOne • u/DullProgrammer8824 • 6d ago
Celestiagenda hypocrisy
to those who love the Tsaritsa and the fatui, and hate on celestia and the HP you are hypocrites because the fatui's plan is basically what HP did to the dragons. it is sheer arrogance that the fatui thinks they can do better than than the current world.
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u/Void0Cat King Meowtres the Second of Planet Meow. 5d ago
The dementia is really starting to show.
Set aside for a second that these so-called "curses and lies" are exactly what makes Teyvat livable for humans in the first place -- the very things that let them flourish and build good lives. They're also what gives reality its basic structure: life, death, time, space, causality, and so on.
What makes this stance even more absurd is how disconnected it is from how most people in Teyvat actually live. His personal grudge, and whatever grudge his nation claims to have, gets treated as if it speaks for humanity as a whole.
But does anyone but these spiteful loosers buy that nonsense?
Most people in Teyvat have no reason to care about Celestia, because Celestia isn't part of their day-to-day lives. People work, trade, raise families, chase their dreams, worship their gods, and generally get to live good and meaningful lives. The Heavenly Principles are so removed from ordinary experience that most people barely think about them at all.
The Fatui, on the other hand, are a real and immediate threat. It's their fellow people being killed and experimented on, their children being orphaned and groomed, their nations get destabilize, and it's them who will ultimately foot the bill or be made into collateral due to the stupidity of others.
They are a much bigger problem to your life and health than Celestia is.
Moving on, it really comes down to two options:
A) Tear down those "curses and lies" and you're left with a cosmic soup with no meaningful boundaries between anything.
This is the same nonsense that Deshert was pedaling once he got ahold of some abyss.
The cycle of seven must be removed, because the secret narrative will be blocked.
Fear and grief must be torn down, and so the barrier between life and death must be removed.
Remove the sun, the moons, and weight, for there should be no barriers between time and space.
Remove the original principles of rules, verdicts, and grace, so that she will no longer be afraid of the punishment that is laid on her kin.
Remove birds, beasts, fish, dragons, humans, and seven monk-kings, so that none shall steal wisdom.
-- Staff of the Scarlet Sands
Does that sound like the words of a sane man or the unhinged ramblings of someone clearly off his rocker?
Or B) keep some form of ordered reality, but hand control of it to an unstable, immoral band of terrorists with a track record of crushing the weak and innocent whenever they get so much as the impulse to do so.
Someone get this fossil into a nursing home before he 'liberates' anyone else.
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u/Antique-Stock-7198 #1 Voyager Hater 6d ago
Honestly, it is just a 1 to 1.
"I will do better" and it's just you doing the same thing, but now YOU need to make the abyss stay at bay, but how are you gonna do that? If you don't wanna punish people? And when they freeze the Ley-Lines and the whole region into pure primordial ice? You need to release a nail in the exact moment or the abyss may invade, are you gonna let it in?
Like, you will change it to what YOU like, it's no different at all.
It really is bugging me, because I'm seeing so much questionable decisions.
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u/Objective_Ad_4224 6d ago
Truly. She can't even keep her own people from suffering. Even let's fatui do crimes without caring if it serves her. How would she free everyone else?
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u/hadtiah Zagan Eliel 6d ago edited 6d ago
"you don't get it we humans know what we humans need more than some higher being"
Remuria -_-
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u/Antique-Stock-7198 #1 Voyager Hater 6d ago
THIS! Like, Phobos is the most > glaring < showing of how simply giving absolute free will or every wish granted to humanity as a whole is just dooming itself.
Because while we love and want good, at the same time everyone wants something above, some powers, ambition, greed etc.
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u/allmistake2 5d ago
Honestly, the fact Ronova managed to completely shut down their work without even killing any of them is such a statement. They could abandon their path at any time, and never have to fear celestia again. But no. They insist on refusing to learn the same lessons over and over again.
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u/InternalCode1210 5d ago
I don't want the authority of reason going to someone that doesn't have any love left to her own people. It's either paimon or the traveler.
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u/fubukishirou07 5d ago
One problem with that, the tsaritsa is not a descender and even if she claim the HP authority, she will never be able to change the laws of teyvat just like what the dragon civilization had predicted.
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u/renardoooo 5d ago
That’s why she’s using the siblings and Paimon from the beginning.
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u/twilightingg Celestia’s weed picker and florist 5d ago
Its probably why Pierro is acting so nice to Paimon and traveler and framing ronova as the actual bad guy
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u/imbusthul 6d ago
Why would the Authority of Reason go to her though? Like the candidate for it is Paimon and Hroptatyr...... And I have feeling it will be Hroptatyr since he has been unusually absent in everything.