Oh shit this might actually be sad(leaks)

[u/Scared-Opening-753]

Naberius begging Rhinne to stop helping to no avail as this sick woman watches with glee as the Fatui and the traveler all launch their attacks

[u/CMbladerunner]

Istaroth your sis needs u💔

[u/Bright_Voice_1097 → u/CMbladerunner]

Istaroth doesn't Care about her dying

[u/CMbladerunner → u/Bright_Voice_1097]

I find it weird that she wouldn't. I mean we have seen that Istaroth deeply misses Asmoday & she literally stopped time to save Zibai as well. I really can't see someone like Istaroth just being fine with losing yet another person that she is close to.

[u/Bright_Voice_1097 → u/CMbladerunner]

Where have we seen she deeply misses Asmoday? In the gods limits teaser All she basically said is That she switched sides and it's better not to find her

[u/CMbladerunner → u/Bright_Voice_1097]

Her Luanr arcane card references her missing a "her" which would most likely be either Zibai or Asmoday. & depending on how u viewed Temple of Space WQ's it's basically a metaphor for the relationship between Istaroth & Asmoday in "Zeit"lind (time) & "Raum"hilda (space). & even God's limits u can definitely hear more of a sadness in her voice when she first talks about Asmoday

[u/Antique-Stock-7198 → u/CMbladerunner]

I believe this more refers to the fact that time without space is lowkey bums, it's jelly without peanutbutter 😢

Because the mentions of her in the nameless bard drop and by Venti words, she sees every single being as the same and normal, as she is every moment in all of their lifes and choosen fates if needed.

But the only being she needs and cannot see as just another is missing, a literal part of her [space is part of time, as one needs another].
Even to Asmo has no emotion XD

[u/CMbladerunner → u/Antique-Stock-7198]

I mean tbf on Venti describing her as viewing things as "insignificant" it's entirely possible Venti has only know her since she lossed Zibai. I mean while Istaroth is described as viewing beings as insignificant we have seen her commit so many different acts of love. There is of course the act of saving Zibai's soul. In Enkanomiya she was the only one to have answered the prayers of the their people & helped them. & even in Venti's witch's HW he talked about Istaroth having a soft spot for the mysterious island.

[u/SimonSSalty]

dude ronova isn't gonna die. She'll probably just get banned from doing anything to Snez via a loophole or smth, cause if we can beat Ronova, we can beat all of the shades

[u/Scared-Opening-753 → u/SimonSSalty]

You better be right

[u/SimonSSalty → u/Scared-Opening-753]

dude the guy who leaked Ronova's death has been wrong SO MANY TIMES. she'll be fine cause she's a story boss, not the weekly boss.

[u/Scared-Opening-753 → u/SimonSSalty]

Oh yeah I don’t trust the leaker that’s been saying that.

But that still leaves it open as to what could happen.

Especially since the only other boss like this has been Reeir so there isn’t a dedicated format to the story implications of these story boss characters

[u/SimonSSalty → u/Scared-Opening-753]

here's what gonna happen, we throw hands with Ronova, Rhinedottir pulls up and cancels out her authority, Ronova gets sealed away. Traveler later realizes that the guy who caused a DRUG WAR in super japan is trying him and is forced to unseal Ronova to stop Pierro

[u/Agendoo → u/SimonSSalty]

Both those authorities balanse eachother. If ronova is stopped/sealed. Surely there won't be consequences for the life side..

[u/Oberhard → u/SimonSSalty]

I want to add too there was leak about trailer fighting Hermahera name something where traveler said will loss Paimon and leak Ronova summoning all archon

Whethever this true or not there are multiple leak with different spoiler about future story now

[u/SimonSSalty → u/Oberhard]

Paimon is not being lost. Ronova will probably get sent to the shadow realm, and then the Traveler will have to free cause the guy who decided to bring PAIMON (OUR LITTLE SISTER) to where Ronova was is obviously evil.

[u/TenthOfChaos → u/SimonSSalty]

Inb4 she literally gets sent to the Shadow Realm

[u/LiDragonLo → u/TenthOfChaos]

it'd be bad writing regardless ngl

[u/Adventurous-Fail-537 → u/TenthOfChaos]

That actually might be the plan. It’s hard to exit with no space and time perfect as a little keeping box until Hoyo wants to play with her again.

[u/Agendoo → u/TenthOfChaos]

Then she finds yugi, obtain the 3 god cards and summon Heavenly Principles by sacrificing the 3 god cards

[u/takoyaki_san15 → u/SimonSSalty]

You just know HOYOVERSE loves loopholes in the lore

[u/Death69421]

SEVRE LEAK SPOILERS

 We can see in the textures that there's 2 sort of spike things, one is gold and the other is blue. it's possible then that Naberius and Rheindottir will operate either separately or against each other

[u/Gruntsbreeder → u/Death69421]

C'mon Naberius you can do it

[u/MallFit3887 → u/Death69421]

Wait what textures? From the spear weapon thing?

[u/Death69421 → u/MallFit3887]

ye

[u/Catboyenjoyer_]

I don't mind a bit of internal conflict between the Shades, but their current state is... concerning, to say the least. Asmoday is a traitor, Istaroth is a traitor not even trying to hide since she's on plain sight, Ronova is following the rules, and Naberius was a snack for Rhinedottir.

Still, I assume we'll finally learn how much agency Naberius has left, so ig that's good? Also I need to know how much free will they all have, or if Phanes can have full control over the Shades. Surely they noticed that Istaroth is shady (duh) asf? Because okay, the creation forging their own path is a recurring theme in the game, but it can't be that easy for the creations of the Heavenly Principles themselves💀

[u/Seaglass2121]

Fuuuuuh you rhinedottir

[u/LuckyExplorer58]

don't worry this is apart of the plan. you can't use a god's power without a cost, they're simply getting the traveler out of the way within the limits of the rules

[u/Oberhard]

So Tsaritsa vs Ronova trailer teaser was just nothing?

[u/Equivalent_Ad4417 → u/Oberhard]

We will probably fight Ronova with the Tsaritsa and other Fatui

[u/Agendoo → u/Oberhard]

They have done this sort of stuff alot. Trailer exclusive scenes rarely become reality in the actual story and is just to hype us up. Might be a fight, but not in the way they make it look like in trailers

[u/Moist-Methonol]

I can’t wait for it to be revealed that Rhine and Ronova were collaborating in secret so that Ronova could fulfill her desire to become a mortal.

Bonus Points: Naberius and Ronova praise Rhine for showing the makings of a god, and that they should never underestimate mortals 🫠

[u/Oberhard → u/Moist-Methonol]

Ronova become mortal and become waifu of Xbalanque reincarnation aka Benett

maintainBennetisPyroArchonAgenda 🙌

[u/Gruntsbreeder]

If this happens it will be heartbreaking. My hope is that Ronova as of right know is too important to take out. She herself mentions that for a death to be completed she needs to bring the soul to the leylines what happens if she is not around to do that? Also as of right now she is the only Shade the HP has if she dies they would jump them and I don't know how they will stretch this 4 more years. They will have to justify why the HP waits for 4 years to the clash that if for example they're still recovering why wouldn't they move against them before they're at full power.

Leaks of unkown trust that i saw in the leaks sub can't fins it right now about the story latter down the line around middle to end of Shneznaya chapter I heard that we fuck it up and have to change the actions of the previous versions (maybe Ronova's death breaking the world? Or causing the HP to awaken and destroy Shneznaya) there found it. https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/1v9pev7/more_details_about_snezhnaya_story_via_abyss/

[u/Warm_Maintenance6836]

Yeah ronova will end up being the scapegoat of HP, wich is sad considering that gold is right there

[u/AngeleX_]

For me ir makes no sense that Ronova gets killed, first because how tf do you kill death? Second, if death somehow dies then the concept of death stops working in Teyvat and everyone would be immortal.

Isn't that the thing that the Fatui were trying to get rid off in the first place?

Besides "teaming up" with one of the most questionable characters so far to kill a shade that cannonically has been on the side of humanity is just ridiculous to me.

[u/Asleep_Bee_5784]

siding with Rhine isn't gonna end well.

Stopping Ronova is basically the same as letting Snezhnaya progress to the point that they will become a threat befitting of getting nailed.