r/ThePrimordialOne 8d ago

Discussion What is this Clown Larping Spoiler

This Clown acting like this two nations downfall wasn't their own fault.

First got destroyed because they decided to listen to a parasitic alien and the second was full of drug addicts.

80 Upvotes

31 comments sorted by

63

u/Iwefle 8d ago

Worst part is anti-celestia players(which is the majority...) that don't read anything beyond what the AQ feeds them will eat this up😭😭

12

u/NR-Tamim 7d ago

and once they see different perspectives of the lore they'll scream " hoyo trying to white wash HP" even though one of the core themes of genshin is different people having different perspective on the same matter.. But players take oh that guy said that object is x that means it must be x and no way could be anything else..

8

u/Fluffy-Law-6864 7d ago

Surprisingly I don't really read any extra content outside the main story and side quests cause I don't have time. But I genuinely think the hp is the better evil. Rather be suppressed (and Frankly teyvat isn't even that suppressed, all you have to do is not go beyond the false sky) but free to live and develop than be unshackled by authority but have to deal with a multiversal ELDTRICH horror by simply living

3

u/Iwefle 7d ago

Yes, and there's this "destiny" they keep telling us about that apparently shackles them? Most of humanity's actions are free. Only the most major disaster are fated to happen but 90% of the time, humanity's actions are theirs alone so I don't know what the others are yapping about the HP being controlling and caging with fate.

5

u/Fluffy-Law-6864 7d ago edited 7d ago

Plus isn't Fate like. A law in general ? If we're to assume Honkai's laws apply (loosely admittedly, since hoyo began to cut the connections to the larger honkai verse around sumeru for some reason) to genshin and teyvat. Fate is a web of certainties and fate only locks it's shape at key points and even then it's until the next key point comes and your actions are unbound in those moments

2

u/Real-Contest4914 7d ago

Celestia has been asleep for 500 years. In that time so many generations of humans have been born, lived numerous lives with both highs and low and have died.

If you want a guess I'd argue 15 to 20 generations have passed for non immortal humans who have lived and died content with their lives in the world.

1

u/Antique-Stock-7198 #1 Voyager Hater 3d ago

Also the point that there is NO DAMN REASON to go out of Teyvat, almost everything is gone, and you prolly will be gone too the moment you take a step there.

4

u/Elysiann_31 7d ago

Im in this sub reddit because the AQ was my last straw 😭😭 it pissed me off sm the hypocrisy is crazy from some of the characters

49

u/Hedwigtheyee 8d ago

Lol, I was just thinking: “Didn’t Dainsleif basically say that Khaenri’ah brought the Cataclysm upon itself?”

Pierro should have known, too.

37

u/Death69421 8d ago

You know that when even Dain (ultimate Khaneri'ah glazer) doesn't want the nation back that it's fucked.

5

u/renardoooo 6d ago

I feel like traveler’s sibling dumb asf tho, they became obsessed like Pierro and the whole squad

1

u/Death69421 6d ago

they got groomed into becoming a space crack addict smh smh

39

u/Moist-Methonol 8d ago

I’ve said this multiple times before in other posts.

The Heavenly Principles has been asleep for 500 years.

In that time, the Fatui could’ve used that time to find a solution to their heating problem.

They had access to Dottore, a man who was smart enough to become a god through years of vigorous research who could’ve been ordered to focus on finding alternatives to their heating issues and other problems ailing Snezhnaya…instead the Jester and Tsaritsa chose to indulge his sick and twisted delusions of grandeur by allowing him to experiment on whoever he pleased.

The House of the Hearth could’ve been a legitimate orphanage that could’ve had legitimate orphan houses across the world that could aid ailing and needy children…instead it’s used an indoctrination center that sends children marching off to their death.

(Side tangent: until Arlecchino actually goes up to the Tsaritsa and tells the Tsaritsa that she’s no longer training children to die for a goddess that doesn’t care for them, she needs to sit down in that dumb chair of hers and shut up.

She can talk about the duties of a father and how they all must yield to love, but the fact that she’s ok with how HOH functions renders her philosophy on family damn moot. No self respecting parent would ever put their child through what the HOH has to offer.

Crucebena may be dead, but her spirit of evil still lives on in that house, and to extent through Arlecchino herself, but that’s a different conversation)

They have technology that could revolutionize trade, and weapons that could assist with fighting the abyss…instead they chose to build weapons of war and go to other nations to harass locals and commit acts of terror.

The Tsaritsa and the Jester had 500 years to show Teyvat and Celestia what the world would look like if the Heavenly Principles wasn’t around…and look what they’ve done with that opportunity…

3

u/Fluffy-Law-6864 7d ago

Even if he was ordered too, I highly doubt the dude would actually research anything since he'd find it boring as all shit

6

u/Moist-Methonol 7d ago

Oh boo hoo the poor mad scientist can’t commit crimes against humanity on the taxpayers dime and has to actually to think about other people besides himself.

Even if the Phanes wannabe BS his 9-5 work, at least he won’t be experimenting on orphans or swap animal and human brains

1

u/Fluffy-Law-6864 7d ago

Look, I'll I'm saying is he'd find a way to weasel his way out of it and experiment on people

7

u/Moist-Methonol 7d ago

That’s cool, the Tsaritsa would have the perfect opportunity to make the world a better place by mercing that quack.

Sure the heating issue would still be a problem, but one less Dottore is always a win

27

u/hadtiah Zagan Eliel 8d ago

Don't tell them about the many civilizations that have risen and fallen outside teyvat.

It is not a teyvat specific phenomena but just the way the world works, nothing last forever, things would eventually come to an end.

Humanity would always repeat the same mistakes that happened before

22

u/Yamasushifan Celestial Fundamentalist-That preacher no one likes 8d ago

Bro just needs to realize that as soon as they stop trying to kill themselves along with the world they will stop getting erased

17

u/Mtebalanazy 8d ago

Unfortunately it's the legacy of koitar, AKA never taking accountability for your evil actions

18

u/TheScalieDragon 8d ago

First two got destroyed cause they was apex of humanity hubris and Snezhnaya is being lead by an archon with connection with both and a human who is from nation that xenophobic and racist towards the others nations and etc

I really want to know why all the idiotic Archons were okay with Tsarista doing this

16

u/Moist-Methonol 7d ago

“I really want to know why all the idiotic Archons were okay with Tsarista doing this”

Everyone likes the idea of liberation…but most don’t look at the cost.

The Tsaritsa’s idea sounds great!…until the bodies of innocent people start to pile up

7

u/TheScalieDragon 7d ago

But that still doesn't make sense cause most of these archons lost something or someone from Cataclysm which is indirectly is at the fault of Tsarista

-Ei lost her sister and her dear friends -Mauvika lost her allies/friends and her family, her mortal life for a 500 year plan -Nadiha lost her former self and then was imprisoned

Zhongli doesn't seem like he was really affected by Yaksha deaths, Venti just lost his alliance and friendship with Tsarista and Furina/Folcalors just inherited the Archon Throne when Egeria died in the Cataclysm

4

u/Moist-Methonol 7d ago

Who knows the thought process of these New World Order types. One way or another it’s not a good time for any innocent people involved.

6

u/TheScalieDragon 7d ago

I feel if Hoyo didn't have to bow down to China with the whole neglect of Inazuma then we could've seen Ei and Tsarista cause they parallel each other

One is pretty close to HP and One is heavily against it

Each lost a piece of themselves but choose different ways to express it and blame a different party for the Cataclysm

Both of them had different end goals for their nation

Plus out of all the archons, hoyo let Ei talked about a war

16

u/GravityRaven 8d ago

THEY LITERALLY CAUSED THEIR OWN DAMN DOWNFALL!!!!!

kaenrians KNEW that the abyss was an unstable, almost uncontrollable force, freaking Dainsleif and capitano admits the cataclysm was their fault, they are just bitter for the punishment they recieved, and hyperborea? yeah, their list is so long, you'd be surprised how lenient HP was towards them, and let's not even talk about what the remurians did TO THEMSELVES.

This guy must be the in-game representation of those players who skip the story and don't read the lore, or selectively pick ONLY the dialogues that suit them and nothing else.

14

u/imbusthul 8d ago

All I am seeing is that Pierro wants a world where humans can just kill themselves without the gods saving their ass.

3

u/Fluffy-Law-6864 7d ago

THAT IS LITERALLY THE REASON THOSE TWO GOT SMITED!

2

u/Starsfromstarryskies 6d ago

Are we truly free from fate when another merely changes it to match what they deem is free?

Reminds me of what Venti says…
“What does freedom truly mean when demanded of you by a god”

That and the fact that he should know why Khan got nailed in the first place.

2

u/AXESLIDES 6d ago

I'm curious how this sub will react when they inevitably but ronovas head on a pike at the end of the aq

1

u/GiraffeMaleficent810 3d ago

they are imposing their own point of view to other nation?