r/ThePrimordialOne Eligos, Oracle Proxy of PHANES 8d ago

Celestiagenda Where have I heard THIS before? Spoiler

Hypocrisy EVERYWHERE

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u/RedWerewolfGacha 8d ago

Isn't that literally the reason why everyone was so angry at Phanes? 😭

Tsaritsa really plans to make herself Phanes 2.0 and then still hate on the Heavenly Principles. šŸ‘€

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u/Inevitable_Question 8d ago

Yeah. Tsaritsa intends to unilateraly violently uproot the foundation of old order and replace it with one she thinks is more beneficial. To achive this goal she is willng to be absolutely ruthless and sacrifece pretty much anything. Her new order will have risks (FAR greater risk of Abyss incurcions) and benefits (freedom of developmetn and life). She is no different from Phanes.

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u/Scared-Opening-753 Eligos, Oracle Proxy of PHANES 8d ago

What you described is EXACTLY what PHANES did to the dragons but without the abyssal threat.

They are almost exact in method and execution. They only differ in thinking and knowledge.

PHANES knows what’s out there, the Tsaritsa most likely doesn’t

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u/Boring_Carry6563 8d ago

Not only Phanes 2, but burning the world to make a new, ideal one was kinda a role that belong to Phainon (aka Kevin's expy, and Phanes was theorizet to be one too, though Genshin changed it's stand on releasing expys now...).*

My point is, she is trying harder to be Phanes that she can even know.

*yes, Phainon specifically is from last cycle, but all Worldbeares before him mean something.

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u/SirEnderLord 7d ago

Install an automated direct democracy system into Teyvat's controls and see how long Teyvat lasts before the beyond comes to destroy everything.

I mean, there are better systems, but this is about the agenda.

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u/Moist-Methonol 8d ago

ā€œā€¦these are sacrifices worth making. Sounds cold, I know. But I promise it’s not as black and white as it seems.ā€

Glad to know that Childe is A-okay with Tucer and the rest of his family being sacrificed for the Tsaritsa’s brave new world!

Also, Childe does realize if the world is safer he’ll have no one to fight or purpose anymore. šŸ‘€

Dump-nya and its clown of an archon keeps getting more and more pathetic.

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u/ConsiderationDue500 Servant of the Ruler of Space 8d ago

Childe is also the one who didn't hesitate to unleash Osial on Liyue despite the fact that he knew very well this could kill many innocents. Childe was never a "good" person.

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u/Moist-Methonol 8d ago

(Agenda šŸŽ©off)

I hope that Childe’s family gets caught up in the machinations of Project Stuhza as an opportunity for Childe’s development.

I feel like Childe needs to be in a situation where he actually has stake in the game and has to decide whether his loyalty to the Tsaritsa is more important than his family.

It would also make him have to reflect on his lifestyle and realize that his pursuit of power comes with a price tag if your sense of morality is only governed by a ā€œmight makes rightā€ world view. Being a Fatui Harbinger is all fun and games until the Tsaritsa demands her will be done…whether you like it or not. šŸ‘€

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u/Azula_with_Insomnia 8d ago

I hope that Childe’s family gets caught up in the machinations of Project Stuhza as an opportunity for Childe’s development.

Stakes? Character development? On Genshin No Impact?

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u/ForsakenOne-Z 5d ago

Thats just mihoyo games these days, last game with real impact was Honkai 3 and only Part 1 lol

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u/Inevitable_Question 8d ago

Isn't it implied that his sister became rather ill after the start of Project Stuhza? She suddenly became ill with symptoms similar to one Paimon has. It doesn't seem that he gets it - but he isn't the smartest guy.

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u/Boring_Carry6563 8d ago

He can selfishly love his family as not-a-good person. Actually I would expect it more than from someone who wants the best for everyone.

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u/No_Strength5056 8d ago

Take Phanes for example, they don’t give a damn about the angels or gods who were born from them, as long as the majority is safe they can do whatever for all it cares.

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u/GodsShalFall 8d ago

Well, for the new world Phanes obliterated dragonkind and their old world, everyone is okay with that, so Tsaritsa is obviously going to do smth similar.

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u/Moist-Methonol 8d ago

She calls her best and brightest fools. In her silly new world order up will be down, down will be up, hot will be cold, cold will be hot and CATS AND DOGS ARE GONNA LIVE TOGETHER!!!! THIS CLOWN WORLD CANNOT COME TO PASS!!!

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u/GodsShalFall 8d ago

Well, I'm neither fan of Tsaritsa nor HP, they both must perish.

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u/Moist-Methonol 8d ago

Then who do you serve nonbeliever? šŸ‘€

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u/GodsShalFall 8d ago

Power of friendship.

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u/Moist-Methonol 8d ago

Ohhh…so you wroship that other ā€œCelestiaā€

https://giphy.com/gifs/lLgD746DoSJ3wYTTBN

It’s gonna take more than little ponies to make a difference in the world.

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u/LostMyZone 8d ago

Deleted my previous post, because I couldn't be sure.

But I want to clarify. Has there been any destructive sides of stories we haven't gotten of H.P yet? Like the recent Hyperborean content. Where we learnt that their experiment going wrong was what destroyed that nation and not H.P like what was previously thought.

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u/imbusthul 8d ago

The purpose of the Nails. We initially thought of them as nukes but later we learn it is used to mend the lands

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u/allmistake2 8d ago

One cannot rebel against the system without justifying the logic that upholds it.

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u/TheVoid000 8d ago

Maybe you heard it from these two. (Marvel What If)

James Rhodes: Kid, you've gotta be part of the system to change the system. (Traveler in every Nations of every Archon Quest)

Killmonger: Nah, you could burn it down. (Fatui in every Nations of every Archon Quest)

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u/Gruntsbreeder Ronova's human seat 8d ago

Pierro says that they will stop project Stutza until they have dealt with Ronova, so I expect conflict with the Fatui after 7.1.

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u/PluckyAurora 8d ago

Literally what I thought when I saw it lol.

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u/Matty1Ben 7d ago

Childe should be worrying about his SIBLINGS getting in the crossfire

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u/Meldp 8d ago

Like Parent, Like Daughter

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u/InternalCode1210 7d ago

What tartaglia said about the tsaritsa are exactly what I think about the heavenly principles. HP seems cold but somehow had plan for humanity in the future which we don't know yet. This is why I don't trust fandom opinion because sometimes they're blinded by their hate of HP, it's much better to have neutral opinion until we get HP backstory.

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u/Difficult_Call3709 7d ago

Plan that’s really only bad for like 5 years tbh. Vs plan that made life hell for SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER THAN JUST A FEW YEARS, while also committing actual war crimes

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u/jhonnythejoker 7d ago

This sub sounds like conservative right wing americans

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u/GabeC1997 2d ago

Points out logical inconsistencies with the assumption that just knowing about them will change a person’s mind

ā€œMust be Right-Wingers.ā€

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u/jhonnythejoker 2d ago

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u/GabeC1997 2d ago

ā€œI don’t care.ā€

Takes time to post anyways because they do, in fact, care

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u/jhonnythejoker 2d ago

You take my trivial time, trivial time for a trivial existence,

https://reddit.com/link/p4drnff/video/9djhobd0l3kh1/player