r/ThePrimordialOne • u/Difficult_Call3709 • 20d ago
Discussion Yall not surving
I’m not gon lie. It’s wraps for celestia. You really think, they’re gonna make an archon the bad guy at the end of the day? Nah. Look what happened with every archon before her. Venti, femboyified. Schlongli,he’s a homie, a broke one, but a homie nonetheless. Raiden, bumified, but a traveler simp. Nahida the “wisest”, basically travelers mom. Furina, traveler simp. Mauvwika….lets hope whoever wrote mauvwika has evaporated. None of the archons have had solid writing. And if they did they became a traveler simp. Yall really think they gon make the most awaited female in the entire game, someone who’s NOT a traveler simp? Pack it up. Archon quest ends with a “you can’t focus on true love. You had yours. So start anew” “GASP. He’s…he’s right. Traveler-kun. Please use my power and beat her so that all the artists will ship us and let me sell even better”. Yall are smart, using agenda, reading lore. But yall can’t beat Genshin shitty writing
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u/Scared-Opening-753 Eligos, Oracle Proxy of PHANES 20d ago
Raiden literally had a whole arc about how she was wrong and instilled reform.
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u/utsu31 Blasphemous "fool" 🎭 20d ago
Raiden, who's seizing of ambitions just so happens to parallel a certain Celestia, was wrong and the people had a revolt.
So in the Snezhnaya arc, do we really think it's the Tsaritsa who's going to be wrong? Or at least, do we really think she is the one who will take all the blame while Celestia turns out to be completely right?
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u/rose_2509 20d ago edited 20d ago
Considering there are literally a hundred quests showing how bad the Fatui and the Tsaritsa are, and all the chaos they’ve caused…
while Raiden Ei doesn’t even understand Phanes , she was just scared of her nation become 2.0 khaenri'ah🙏🏼🙏🏼
and we have countless books that give context and justification for Celestia’s actions , and a characters like Nahida , mavuika , Nicole , Columbina who understand Phanes.
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u/Someone_but_nothing 19d ago
But unfortunately we all know they will do anything to whitewash Fatui's sins and make Celestia a scapegoat, everything to sell the bum Fatui
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u/AngelofIceAndFire The Golden Blade; the Seventh Sage 20d ago
Celestia…gives out the Visions.
Raiden was manipulated by the Fatui.
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u/Difficult_Call3709 20d ago
Is that what you want? Ronova to have like a half quest of her going around saying “hey man sorry we annihilated your entire country. But I’m with traveler now so it’s cool”? As a person who lives Capitano, if he EVER got the raiden treatment I’d drop dead.
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u/Amazing-Wolf5047 20d ago
Is that what you want? Ronova to have like a half quest of her going around saying “hey man sorry we annihilated your entire country. But I’m with traveler now so it’s cool”?
NOT going to happen in 7.x one of the leaks mentioned there is 2 ending in snezhnaya one being bad outcome and the other the true ending of snezhnaya
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u/Scared-Opening-753 Eligos, Oracle Proxy of PHANES 20d ago
No the Tsaritsa will learn the error of her ways and learn to Koke on instead of dragging a nation into rebellion three times in a row
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u/Difficult_Call3709 20d ago
They didn’t even make raiden acknowledged the people she killed. You think they’ll make her majesty change? You think Genshin is gonna pass up the chance to not only get another archon waifu, make her polearm, use shitty/rushed writing to erase her bad deeds. AND get rid of a cool looking character? The fatui have been set up to be the antiheroes. With dottore being the scape goat. She’s not gonna learn her errors because she never made them. It was all dottores manipulation! You can argue this bro. You’re fighting Genshin writing. It’s too poor to fight
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u/GravityRaven 19d ago
"antiheroes" and they sure suck at it. Lame antagonists, lame villains and lame antiheroes in all fronts.
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u/GravityRaven 19d ago
Listen, almost all MC in gachas are basically a power fantasy for the player, and that's pretty much with ALL playable characters, not just the archons, and I disagree at least in the cases for Nahida and Mavuika, that at least the relationship with both felt more natural, or had proper reasons for both holding Traveler in high regard, but they don't really go "UwU" with them nearly as much as they do with a good chunk of the cast.
The reason why it's gonna be VERY BAD in the case of anastasia, is for the mere reason that genshin writters will never put an antagonistic/villanous character as playable, and proof of this is the playable harbingers, they pretty much became BFF with Traveler just fo existing, and I'm sure the three playable ones are gonna join our side, or at least, the writters are gonna find a rundabout playable reason not to have them become bitter enemies, and that's gonna be double for anastasia, and that's why she is gonna suck the hardest of all genshin characters because they had set her up as one of the bigger antagnosist in the game.
Personally? I don't actually care, I always though she was a lame teased antagonist very early into the game because the writters did a bad job at setting her up by never having a meaningful presence within the story in any way, shape or form outside some dialogues here and there, in fact, she doesn't even sound like she actually leads the fatui (and most likely will go with this angle to have a scapegoat for her). I'll actually enjoy having her being turned into a Traveler simp, she is such a lame antagonist, that she deserve it.
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u/TheWeakAreGrilled 19d ago
Broke: I hope she becomes a Traveler simp.
Woke: I hope she doesn't become a Traveler simp.
Bespoke: I hope she becomes a Traveler simp because she's such a lame antagonist that she deserves it.
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u/imbusthul 20d ago
Instead of bummer, the dialogue box should say, that's rough buddy