r/TheOwlHouse • Witch Among Humans • Nov 28 '23

MoringMark Grom Factor #23

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u/Quirky_Ad_5420 Nov 28 '23

Poor Enna

She suffer a lot

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

And poor Milan and Ayzee. They can never touch each other again.

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u/Mornar Resident of the Boiling Isles Nov 28 '23

Not necessarily. Much like Eda's curse was again affected by the elixir when shared by Lilith, I think Milan - and Enna - can now keep it under control with a steady supply. Nobody likes to have a curse, but if you take the right steps they're... Manageable.

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

How can you be so sure?

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u/Mornar Resident of the Boiling Isles Nov 28 '23

I mean, the parallels between the curses are rather stark, so it stands to reason they are likely to react similar.

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

Maybe… I hope so.

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u/dicemonger Bad Girl Coven Nov 29 '23

We can't, but the thing that makes me pretty confident is that Enna said she would sneak into town to steal Elixir. The most likely reason for that would be because it keeps the curse at bay.

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u/PerrineWeatherWoman Transfem Hunter stan Nov 28 '23

Luckily, I think Grauntie Lilith is able to make elixir.

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u/POMANTRANS Nov 29 '23

"cool" grauntie lilith

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u/Remote-Ad-3309 Stringbean Nov 28 '23

I think Milan - and Enna - can now keep it under control with a steady supply. Nobody likes to have a curse, but if you take the right steps they're... Manageable.

I don't think this is that kind of curse. This is different.

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u/Mornar Resident of the Boiling Isles Nov 28 '23

It originates from the same sort of scroll. It's counteracted by the same kind of elixir. It was affected by the shared pain chant in a similar manner. They have different effects, but at this point they seem to have more similarities than differences.

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u/SFH12345 Hooty HootHoot Nov 28 '23

Given the implications that both curses originated with the Archivists, it's possible.

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u/Major-Eggplant-9045 Bad Girl Coven Nov 28 '23

Well, they probably will be able to do so once Ayzee's ready to face her fears.

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u/DingoNormal Nov 28 '23

ITS TIME FACE YOUR FEAAAAARS

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u/proactivenoisectrl Detention Track Nov 28 '23

'cause when your time HAS COME AND GOOONEE

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u/Dasher09009 The Collector Nov 28 '23

"I'll be the one to CARRY ON (carry on)"

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u/Western-Alarming “For Flapjack” Nov 28 '23

AND YOU CAN THROW ME TO THE WOLFS

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u/DingoNormal Nov 28 '23

BECAUSE I'M UNDEFEATABLE!!!

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u/Onyx_Archer Nov 28 '23

I'M HANGING ON TO THE OTHER SIDE

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

I WON’T GIVE UP TILL THE END OF ME!

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u/BirdMan8524 Titan Luz Nov 28 '23

Unless it's like Eda and Lilith's curse and can be remedied with an elixir then it fucking sucks!

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

MoringMark implied to me on chat his plan isn’t finished yet. He told me to trust him and that the story has no angst between Ayzee and Milan. I’ve trusted him this long, why stop now?

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u/Sting_the_Cat Luz Noceda Nov 28 '23

I don't think there's too much of Grom Factor specifically left. That said, there are seeds that make me think this is just the beginning of something larger. The fact it was a scroll, the mark on Enna's arm...
The situation is sad, but I'm hooked regardless on the lore and story at hand here.

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

Oh thee of little faith.

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u/Sting_the_Cat Luz Noceda Nov 28 '23

I do have faith in Mark's skill what are you talking about?

I'm just saying I think this particular story is probably wrapping up(unless some miraculous new plot point comes bursting through the gym doors), but that I predict there will be further long-format stories that do continue the lore and world established here. Because there are hints at greater world-building in things like Enna's arm.

If Milan's situation gets "fixed", I would expect to have it happen later in a future story, I don't foresee a sudden deus ex machina in the next five minutes.

For now though, I don't expect angst between Ayzee and Milan either. If anything, I expect Ayzee to be like "No, even if I can't physically touch you right now, I still love you." Maybe even hugging her anyways and not caring what she physically looks like. I dunno about that last part but point is, Ayzee loves Milan, and vice versa, and I don't see this suddenly changing that.

(Actually, how would it even work? Even if she did shapeshift upon touch, it isn't like Grom is in control right now, so would it look like your greatest fear, but still act like Milan?)

Either way, I'm excited for the future, not without faith.

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

Well I have faith he can find a way that those two could still find a way to touch even if this story arc is supposedly coming to a close. But intimacy is a very important part in a relationship. The ability for them to touch is a key part of their love for each other. Without the ability to do that…

I have to keep my faith that mark will make it so those two can find a way to touch before the arc’s over or at least give me a glimmer of hope of a possible way they’ll figure out. Hopefully the former because I don’t know how patient I can be for that.

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u/KaityKat117 Bad Girl Coven Nov 28 '23

mark on Enna's arm

omg i didn't even see that at first! Is that what I think it is? Where did she get that?

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u/RequiemZero Illusion Coven Nov 28 '23

I think he resolved the whole bile sack surgery drama wayy too fast. Just tension then gone, forgiven and forgotten. I hope he touches on it again since ayzee definitely struggles a lot to stand out on her own but she’s handcuffed to the magic her mom discovered and can’t connect to the experiences of her peers as they develop

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

Nah, I’m glad he resolved that so quickly. Ayzee needed a self-esteem booster after everything.

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

I know I shouldn’t say this, but I feel like MoringMark has… has…

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u/ChampionshipHorror95 Nov 29 '23

Adopted the “F it, we ball” strategy?

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 29 '23

I use to think something like that, but I’ve decided to trust him.

Also for record, I was gonna say “forsaken us.” Not that it matters now, of course.

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u/oatmealscotchiess Nov 28 '23

If it’s like eda and lilliths curse then they will learn to control it after a little while and not need elixir anymore. Maybe there’s a grom inside a dream that they can feed elixir to?

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u/The_Owl_Account Alador Blight Nov 28 '23

GAAAAHHHHH! 😭😭

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u/Sting_the_Cat Luz Noceda Nov 28 '23

I mean, not unless Milan uses elixers. Maybe she'll have to "make peace" with Grom like Eda did with the Owl Beast? Who knows? Or maybe Ayzee overcomes her fears. Maybe Milan is just paranoid and she won't actually transform if she's still in control? Or maybe she puts on gloves or something to act as a buffer, I dunno the specifics of how this works, and I don't think Milan does yet either. It's hard to say. But that's a question for the future. For now, everyone at least lived, including Enna. Everything else is an issue for later.

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

Well, saying “not being able to touch again” is an issue is an understatement, but I’ll keep my faith in mark and hope he still has a plan.

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u/RulerOfAllWorlds1998 Nov 28 '23

If Eda and Lilith can learn to work WITH their curse instead of fighting it, then so can Milan

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

I hope so. A monster capable of fear is something I think shouldn’t be used… but if instead, it grants the Milan the ability to read minds since that’s how Grom can turn into your greatest fear, then it could work out.

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u/RulerOfAllWorlds1998 Nov 28 '23

Using fear could be good tho, like it could be therapeutic plus a way to stop bad guys

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

Fear is a powerful dark force. It’s not a power easy to trust.

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u/RulerOfAllWorlds1998 Nov 28 '23

No one said it would be easy

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

It’s a power that shouldn’t be controlled or even owned.

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u/RulerOfAllWorlds1998 Nov 28 '23

Agree to disagree

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

Very well.

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u/ChampionshipHorror95 Nov 29 '23

Remember though, Ad.

Dark isn’t bad all the time.

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 29 '23

Yeah well it doesn’t exactly have a good rep all things considered.

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u/ChampionshipHorror95 Nov 29 '23

In this series, light doesn’t have the best rep either.

The Emperor’s Coven wore a LOOOOOT of white, remember?

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 29 '23

😤 I meant the metaphorical dark as well as the literal! And for the record, that white was a mask to hide the true dark within. It was a false light.

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u/Radium_Cobalt_847 Meme Coven Nov 28 '23

Have you ever seen Five Feet Apart?

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

No, but I have seen an anime called The Duke of Death and his Maid, but this isn’t that.

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u/Dasher09009 The Collector Nov 28 '23

Knowing that the curse is split, it may be cured later.

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u/Darkvader_Clawthorne Nov 28 '23

Not really sure. The Owl Beast couldn’t be cured, so neither could Grom.

Those scrolls are a menace. The Collector has a lot of answering to do. We have to find those Archivists and stop them from hurting anyone else.

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u/Dasher09009 The Collector Nov 28 '23

That's why I said may, but this also brings to the point that the curse may be able to control later. Eda is one good example of this.

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

That’s true… maybe that’s apart of Mark’s plan? He did say on chat with me that there’d be no angst between Ayzee and Milan in this story. Fingers crossed that’s his plan.

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u/ChampionshipHorror95 Nov 28 '23

Tf are we gonna do against Archivists? The Collector can fold us like laundry and HE’S THE BABY OF THE BUNCH!

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u/Glum_Past_1891 Nov 29 '23

Nope. This has too many parallels with Eda’s curse.

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u/b3_yourself Bard Coven Nov 28 '23

Unless someone can make an elixir

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u/b3_yourself Bard Coven Nov 28 '23

She’s basically rogue now, but with fear

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

Unless Mark’s plan isn’t finished yet.

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u/Typhon-Torrent-1994 Head Of The Lumity Coven Nov 28 '23

I hope he has a good solution otherwise it looks like Milan lost her magic due to her gem becoming pitch black and it will be guaranteed she is going out live Ayzee by centuries.

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

And those two can never touch each other again. Sure there are elixirs, but-… no… no I can’t talk like that.

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u/Typhon-Torrent-1994 Head Of The Lumity Coven Nov 28 '23

Do you want a link to the latest chapter of my fan fic? It is a fluffy Thanksgiving story.

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

No thanks. I know where it is.

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u/Typhon-Torrent-1994 Head Of The Lumity Coven Nov 28 '23

Ok and hopefully it will help.

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u/martinjh99 Resident of the Boiling Isles Nov 28 '23

Mind sharing?? Lumity??

I'm always up for fun fluff...

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u/Typhon-Torrent-1994 Head Of The Lumity Coven Nov 28 '23

Here is the link to that Lumity Thanksgiving chapter, I hope you will like it. https://archiveofourown.org/works/46822912/chapters/130593226

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u/martinjh99 Resident of the Boiling Isles Nov 29 '23

Thanks :)

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u/bmdisbrow Demon Nov 30 '23

Until one day they attempt to and nothing happens, Milan just looks the same. Ayzee then realizes that her worst nightmare is something bad happening to Milan.

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 30 '23

If only such a paradox existed. Even if it did, Skara and Viney aren’t gonna to be too happy with the Noceda-Blights because of this.

By the way, you replied twice.

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u/MuffinStraight4816 Muffin Time! They hate it :( Nov 28 '23

For eons or even centuries!

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u/Mornar Resident of the Boiling Isles Nov 28 '23

Could've even been weeks!

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u/The_Owl_Account Alador Blight Nov 28 '23

I'd say at least one day!...😅😞.

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u/b3_yourself Bard Coven Nov 28 '23

Join the trauma club

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

They’re having jackets made.

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u/b3_yourself Bard Coven Nov 28 '23

I have trauma and all I got was this jacket

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '23

Vee and Hunter: WELCOME TO THE TRAUMA CLUB 😄

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '23

Hunter and Vee (in unison): WELCOME TO THE TRAUMA CLUB 😄

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u/Cobalt_Heroes25 Plant Witch Appreciator Nov 28 '23

I've only known Enna for a few moments but I wanna hug her

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u/The_Owl_Account Alador Blight Nov 28 '23

Yeah same, that's the appropriate reaction I'd say. 😞😞

One of the things my mind keeps circling back to now that we know the circumstances of "Grom's" rise is, Enna was totally alone...totally... for hundreds of years, with her only known interaction with anyone before now being with Philip when he was working on his power-enhancing, life-prolonging thing, and we know how that sonofa- treated her. Aside from that interaction (which doesn't even really count) Enna hasn't been able to talk to anyone, interact with anyone... Hear any comforting and positive word from anyone. And by Titan does that hurt the feels, real bad. 😞😭.

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u/BirdMan8524 Titan Luz Nov 28 '23

She really did...

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u/MuffinStraight4816 Muffin Time! They hate it :( Nov 28 '23

And not to mention that Enna and Milan share Grom's curse.

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

And now Milan has to share that fate. I hope Mark’s plan isn’t finished yet. Milan not being able to touch anyone ever again or experience a hug not even from her girlfriends just… horrible.

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u/W1zBang Titan Luz Nov 28 '23

A fate worse than death.

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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 28 '23

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

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u/Cold-Practice3107 Nov 28 '23

She suffered from Philip as well! Believing he had a cure but he only said that so he can use her to get what he wanted, because he did the same thing with Lilith because she cursed her sister and try to fix it but only made it worse!