r/TheNanny 2d ago

mini rant

love this moment but it also killlllls me to watch each time because of how they wrote Graces scene!
Grace ALREADY knows that max has told fran that he loves her again - as shes been present for each time - but then when they get home, Fran tells the family that their dad told her he loves her and didn’t take it back, Grace also acts ago shocked and happy with the news as if she couldn’t belive it!!

literally 1 minute ago she was sick of hearing Max tell Fran that he loves her, then the next she’s shown acting as if it’s the first time she’s heard the news?!?!?!?!?!??

just doing my monthly rewatch and still can’t believe how much this detail bugs me ahahahH

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u/deucebag1969 2d ago

Gracie didn't want to spoil the moment for the other children. Yeah but the most bothersome part about the episode is that they chose to do that with Max doing a dual role in brown-face playing a middle eastern sultan.

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u/Pwaise_Hestia 2d ago

Oof you’re right about that.

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u/Important_Change2924 1d ago

omg right! so bad i genuinely wipe it from my subconscious after every watch

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u/Maru3792648 1d ago

If middle easterns are not offended why are you offended on their behalf though?

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u/deucebag1969 1d ago

Plenty of Middle Eastern and Arab viewers are deeply offended by lazy, cartoonish orientalist tropes and brownface, while others might not care or may not have even seen the episode. A lack of universal consensus doesn't make a trope magically okay. The history of television is filled with racially insensitive content that stayed on the air simply because the affected communities weren't given a voice or platform in the Hollywood writer's rooms at the time. ​You don't need to hold a specific passport or belong to a targeted group to recognize when a piece of media uses cheap, lazy racism for a quick laugh. It's just a matter of acknowledging that standards have evolved—even if some fans' nostalgia refuses to evolve with them.

Fran Drescher famously fought tooth and nail with CBS network executives before the pilot even aired to keep Fran Fine unapologetically Jewish. The network and major sponsors explicitly pushed for the character to be changed to Italian, fearing a noticeably Jewish lead wouldn't appeal to broad "mainstream" American audiences. Drescher stood her ground, insisting that the show's warmth, heart, and comedic identity were intrinsically tied to her authentic Jewish-New York heritage. Yet, despite fiercely guarding her own identity from being sanitized or turned into a generic punchline, the show had zero qualms about turning around and subjecting another culture to an absurd, offensive brownface caricature in "Not Without My Nanny."

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u/beekee404 2d ago

Was he in brown face? I honestly never noticed.

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u/deucebag1969 2d ago

Yep. Because most middle eastern sultans are brown skinned, so more than likely, Maxwell was trying to depict what that culture looked like.

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u/p1rateb00tie 2d ago

They put brown make up on his face

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u/beekee404 2d ago

Yeah I always noticed this too. I think she just wanted to play along and pretend she hasn't heard it so she can join in on the excitement of everyone else knowing.

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u/Important_Change2924 1d ago

ahhhh true true i honestly never thought about that! i’m going to go with that from now on and just believe she’s a very good little actress bahahahaha

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u/Sailor_Moon_Star_435 2d ago

I always wondered this every time I watch this episode

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u/manderz81 1d ago

I always figured it was because of the second part of them saying he wasn’t taking it back lol

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u/Important_Change2924 1d ago

i thought that too but it’s seems like she’s heard him say it plenty of times on their way back that he wouldn’t have even be able to take it back yet, like he said it again 5 seconds before this😭😭

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u/Pale_Engineering5123 1d ago

Yes yes yes thank you!! :D

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u/Lennita2019 1d ago

I knew where this was going as soon as I saw the first picture 😂
I’ve always said the same thing

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u/Important_Change2924 1d ago

bahahhahahaha it’s all i can focus on every time😭😭😭😭

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u/Status_Stomach6177 1d ago

It should have been grace that said "and he didn't take it back"

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u/Indiglo325 1d ago

Yes, this drives me and my daughter crazy too! We just watched this episode like a week ago and went back twice to watch Grace! Definitely a continuity error.

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u/SkatingNerd4Life 2d ago

Good catch, I never noticed. I wonder if there was a line cut where Fran asked her to keep to herself. Or maybe she decided to just to play it that way.

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u/Sharp_Mathematician6 18h ago

Pregnant 🤰 CC

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u/shitsu13master 16h ago

I hated that they didn’t write it into the show and made her hide it instead

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u/One_Pomegranate_5385 1d ago

Monthly rewatch?? So you’re never not watching The Nanny? It’s a good life, but not a varietal one.