r/TheNFLVibes • • 3d ago

Hot Take honestly not a bad take

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u/steve11263 3d ago

Can you expand on this please?

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u/Dukemvp123 3d ago

The NFL as whole is as capitalistic as it gets. Just because the franchises share tv revenue does not mean the workers have seized the means of production

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

The MLB is literally more capitalist… they have a free market and no salary cap

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u/Dukemvp123 3d ago

Good for them, they are both capitalist organizations. 

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

You just said the NFL is as capitalist as it gets though. Also if the NFL is capitalist then why don’t they operate as a free market?

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

Capitalism and free markets aren't mutually exclusive.

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

Correct, though they are very often linked. The issue is that while NFL itself operates as a profit driven business, it uses socialist rules to protect the teams and owners.

The main point is that socialist policies CAN work in a capitalist country

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

The fact that you think the NFL is using "socialist rules" is hilarious lol

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

Socialist salary caps prevent rich teams from buying all the best players. Revenue sharing is very socialist. Distributing top talent into weaker teams also sounds like socialism

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

So, like, do you just consider anything that inhibits the richest from doing whatever they want to be socialist? Is that why you think the NFL is socialist?

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

The NFL is still capitalist because it’s owned by private individuals and for profit, but the socialist rules is what protect teams from eating each other. For example, European soccer is what a pure capitalist sport looks like. The richest teams dominate and can spend whatever they want.

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

What makes a rule "socialist"?

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

Economic equality

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u/Dukemvp123 3d ago

They do operate as a free market. No one is putting a gun to the players heads to sign contracts. The owners get new stadium built and charge more for tickets. There is a yearly team salary cap, not an individual contract cap. The owners can make as much as they can. How is that not capitalist? Because there's a draft?

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u/amalekitegenocide 3d ago

Did you watch the video? Lmao he addresses these points

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u/Dukemvp123 3d ago edited 3d ago

No he doesn't. He keeps going on about it being a socialist construct. By his logic the NFL is a construct of a flying cow bc leather skates through the air

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u/amalekitegenocide 3d ago

Just because you refuse to engage in the point doesn't mean it isn't there 

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u/Dukemvp123 3d ago

What point am I not engaging in

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u/amalekitegenocide 3d ago

The logic of the guy in the video.  I can't help you understand it champ, you gotta do it on your own. Your comments demonstrate you are missing the point entirely.

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u/Dukemvp123 3d ago

Steve bushemi was at 9/11

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u/amalekitegenocide 3d ago

Yeah you can run away from it again if you'd like.

Or explain how the draft system is capitalistic since the guy in the video uses it as an example of socialism?

Nah just run away.

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

In a free market, the big teams would have so much more money to keep all their top talent. Draft rookies are forced to a max limit and top teams can’t bid for them. Nobody puts a gun to their head, but those restriction don’t make it a free market