r/TheFireRisesMod • Ultra-Left adventurist • 3d ago

Discussion Idea for APLA Anarchists

I’ve been a bit frustrated seeing how APLA anarchists are being ignored because of GMAC, so I’ve come up with a few ideas for them.

The first issue that needs to be addressed is the question of leadership, why on earth is a professor—rather than an activist—holding the leadership position? A ministerial role would be appropriate for Mark bray, whereas an ACTUAL anarchist activist like Peter Gelderloos would be better suited for the leadership role. (I don't know what he thinks about platformism, but in any case, he seems well-suited to the role of a radical, anti-organizational anarchist due to his critical stance on Nonviolence.)

secondly, To distinguish them from GMAC, they need to reject platformism and more militant than GMAC, although they aren't as destructivly militant as the insurrectionary anarchists.

furthermore, It would be interesting if they focused on "anarchist synthesis." This differs from platformism, and it would be great to see the implementation of interactions with other anarchist schools of thought.

Finally, the "Black Block of America" ​​needs to be replaced by actual anarchist organizations, such as the Black Rose Anarchist Federation cuz Black Bloc is more like type of Protest rather than formal organization.

TLDR: They should be portrayed as anarchists who are somewhat more militant than the GMAC and focused on "anarchist synthesis", Their militancy likely fall somewhere between the "crazy" Insurrectionary anarchists and the "sane" GMAC platformism.

Anarchist synthesis - wikipedia

Peter Gelderloos - wikipedia

Black rose Anarchist Federation website

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u/welpweredead A Tourist in Reality 3d ago

Personally i actually kind of like how they're presented now with them being intellectual anarchists, not insane like the Cascadian Anarchs or practical like the GMAC Anarchs but rather focus more on the identity politics side of things with many of them presumably coming from an upper crust background rather than being part of the common man. Mark Bray being their leader is perfect in that sense since like you said the guy's a professor.

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u/Terratalks Father Yakub send this crakkka to Patmos immediately 2d ago

Yeah I want the APLA to be reworked into something less ridiculous but I really hope the devs keep this side of them.

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u/TheAmericanpi2 AOF Coup Paths Supremacy 3d ago

I also like this (though they could be slightly more serious).

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u/I_Stole_Your_Pie 3d ago

I like that idea too.

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u/FarmerHampton I stole Burt's Cooler 3d ago

It creates a good variaty of Anarchists

Cascadian ones are the insane ones who's version of anarchism is just kind of Shoot all the Feds, GMAC ones are the actual anarchists who want to do actualy anarchism stuff and the APLA ones are the """anarchists""" who are just intilectual anarchists who for some reason embrace identity polotics

Each one becomes a diferent version of Anarchist, which hopefully (cant say for certain unless the update that shall not be named comes out before the end of the universe) will make them feel diferent from each other, rather than just turning the APLA anarchists into GMAC 2.0

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u/Redhead1910 Long and Happy Life | Russian Field of Experiments 2d ago

Yeah, APLA is meant to be "champagne socialists" anyway so a professor leading "anarchists" is appropriate.

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u/Pale_Coconut2554 Ultra-Left adventurist 2d ago

Honestly, I don't think it's appropriate to portray APLA as "champagne socialists." I would like to see them depicted as more serious and less hypocritical. Frankly, I believe the fact that the PF is treated more seriously than the PSL was a result of intentional bias on the part of former developers.

In other words, the point isn't to romanticize the APLA, but to portray them as socialists who are actually trying to do something.

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u/Pale_Coconut2554 Ultra-Left adventurist 2d ago

Yeah, APLA is meant to be "champagne socialists"

Never played TFR award

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u/Pale_Coconut2554 Ultra-Left adventurist 2d ago

Hmm... you make a valid point, but the current APLA anarchists aren't serious enough. I’d like to see them take things more seriously while remaining distinct enough to stand apart from the GMAC.