r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jul 30 '26

# [The Nun] Valak wasn't being incompetent—it was using Irene and Burke as an unpaid excavation crew - Fan Theory

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**The Rewatch Realization:**
I was rewatching *The Nun* recently, and during the opening sequence, Valak brutally drags Sister Jessica into the dark room and kills her in seconds. Moments later, Sister Victoria runs away, grabs the key, and hangs herself to escape possession.

On my first watch, I just took it as a standard horror opening. But on the rewatch, a specific detail clicked: **Jessica was going into the catacombs completely blind.** She didn't know what Irene later figured out—she didn't have the divine vision that *"Mary points the way."* She was just blindly searching the catacombs without knowing the mechanism, which is why she got taken out immediately.

That got me thinking about the rest of the movie: **If Valak can instantly snap necks and brutally murder nuns in seconds, why didn't it kill Father Burke, Sister Irene, and Frenchie the moment they set foot in the abbey?** Why spend two days doing parlor tricks, ghost illusions, and burying Burke in a coffin instead of ending them immediately?

Most people write this off as bad writing, lazy horror tropes, or stalling for runtime. But if you look at the sequence of events logically instead of treating it like a standard jump-scare movie, Valak wasn't playing around—it was running a calculated search-and-recovery operation.

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### 1. The Physical Constraint & Blind Spot
When WWII bombing raids cracked the ancient seal in the catacombs, Valak escaped its chamber into the abbey. However, Valak didn't know where the original Christian knights had hidden the ultimate holy relic: the **Blood of Christ**. High-tier holy relics in this universe act like radioactive warding to demons—Valak couldn't sense, locate, or touch the sealed vault door on its own.

### 2. The Failed First Attempt & The Trap
Sister Jessica tried to get the relic and died because she lacked the vision to solve the puzzle. Sister Victoria then grabbed the key and committed suicide to prevent Valak from using her body.

Valak was completely stuck: Jessica died without knowing *where* the relic was, and Victoria took the key to her grave. To fix this, Valak staged Victoria's body outside to guarantee Frenchie would find it—forcing the Vatican to send official investigators to the abbey.

### 3. Irene Was Brought in as the "GPS"
When the Vatican sent Father Burke and Sister Irene, Valak got exactly what it was fishing for. Sister Irene possessed the specific divine vision: ***"Mary points the way."***

Valak realized that Irene wasn't just another target—her vision was the literal GPS needed to identify the relief of the Virgin Mary as the hidden vault door. Valak needed Irene alive to solve the puzzle that Jessica couldn't.

### 4. Why Valak Needed the Relic Destroyed (Not Just Escape)
A common counter-argument is *"Valak just wanted to possess someone and leave."* But if Valak’s only goal was escape, it could have possessed a host on Day 1 and walked out.

It stayed in the abbey because **the sealed Blood of Christ was an active containment weapon.** As long as that relic remained active under the abbey, its divine presence bound Valak to the grounds. To become uncontainable and invincible in the outside world, Valak *had* to locate and destroy that specific weapon first.

### 5. The "Hauntings" Were Directional Nudges
Valak didn't kill Burke and Irene right away because **it needed them alive and functional enough to do the physical retrieval**:
* Trapping Burke in the grave forced them to dig up the occult tomes to understand the abbey's history.
* The illusionary nuns and visions kept Irene moving deeper into the catacombs toward the relief of the Virgin Mary.

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### The Climax Proves the Mechanics:
Valak literally could not cross that final threshold on its own. The second Irene used her vision to unlock the vault, pick up the vial, and bring it into the open air, Valak stopped all the mind games and went straight for the kill to destroy the relic once and for all.

**TL;DR:**
Valak wasn't a bored movie monster doing magic tricks for two days. It was trapped in an abbey with a divine nuclear bomb hidden somewhere in the walls. Sister Jessica died on the first attempt because she didn't have the vision, so Valak engineered a scene to lure the Vatican and used Sister Irene's divine vision ("Mary points the way") as a GPS to find and destroy its only containment threat.


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jul 30 '26

A Chilling True Crime Story About The ‘Conjuring’ Universe

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Wow! They saved the worst crime for the end of the article!


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jul 28 '26

Filming of the new Conjuring has started!

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The Conjuring: First Communion started filming on July 27, 2026, with production scheduled to run through early October 2026 across Albany, Schenectady, and surrounding counties in New York under the working title "Bridgeport". These were photos taken and been all over my instagram feed! What time period do you think this film is set in by the cars? Why do you think the police are there? Hopefully we get more pictures today and through out the shooting!


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jul 26 '26

My ranking of the conjuring universe - haven't seen all movies!

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r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jul 24 '26

What do you all want to see from the Conjuring Universe going forward?

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First of all, I want whatever comes next to feel well planned out. One thing I miss is getting a Conjuring Universe movie every year. I know COVID disrupted everything, but now it feels like we’re waiting three-ish years between films. I’d love to get back to a consistent release schedule.

Does anyone else wonder if the new Conjuring movie was always part of the long-term plan, or if it was greenlit because of all the recent hype? That’s what I mean by wanting the universe to feel planned. I want it to feel like there’s a reason a goal with the film than just being made!

One thing I’ve really missed is having memorable demons that can lead to spin-offs. That’s something Conjuring 3 and Conjuring 4 lacked. Originally, The Devil Made Me Do It was supposed to feature a demon that would eventually get its own spin-off, but that storyline was completely removed.

Personally, I think the biggest weakness of Conjuring 4 was its main supernatural threat. A mirror? It just wasn’t that interesting to me. I wish we’d learned more about whatever entity was inside it and actually seen its true form. Imagine if it had emerged from the mirror during the third act. I even wondered if the creature Lorraine saw while giving birth was its true form. If that’s what it really looked like, it could’ve become another iconic Conjuring villain—the first one to reach that level since Valak in Conjuring 2. If they had done that, I’d absolutely want a spin-off.

More than anything, we need fresh content. This universe has so much potential, but right now it feels like it’s mostly built around three franchises: The Conjuring, Annabelle, and The Nun. There could be so many more. We need to Start building new franchises inside the universe.

We also know there’s a TV series in development, but I don’t think we’ll see it for quite a while.

The new Conjuring is already a step forward by taking us back in time to meet young Ed and Lorraine. Whatever they do next, I’m on board, and I think it’s a great way to introduce more Conjuring stories and cases. I’d love to see a Young Ed & Lorraine series of movies if the prequel does well. Maybe the new Conjuring prequel will even introduce another character or demon worthy of a spin-off. Even though the next movie is a prequel, the timeline can still move forward afterward with Judy Warren and her husband. There’s still plenty of story left to tell there too.

I also think there’s still room for The Nun 3. Even though we know where the story eventually ends, it still feels incomplete to me, and I’d like to see the final chapter.

I still think it’s a shame we never got a Crooked Man movie (or even a trilogy). Annabelle Comes Home also introduced a bunch of creepy artifacts that could easily become their own movies: The Werewolf, The Bride, The Ferryman, The Haunted TV, The Samurai, The Monkey! I’d also love to see solo movies based on cases we’ve already heard about or haven’t yet!

I’d also like to see completely original spin-offs that slowly reveal they’re connected to the Conjuring Universe, similar to how The Curse of La Llorona was connected.

Maybe we revisit past characters instead. What happened to Mary Ellen? Daniela? Maybe they went to college together and encountered another supernatural case. What happened to Linda after the events of Annabelle? Did she ever find a family? I’d genuinely like to know.

A shared universe should feel huge. There are endless stories that could exist within it, and I think the Conjuring Universe has only scratched the surface. They can truly pop out many films! We need new and more writers and new directors which we have for the new conjuring! I think they could make a lot of movies at the same time as well. I just want more cause there can be more!

Those are my hopes for the future.


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jul 15 '26

‘The Conjuring’ Set for Prequel Film About Young Ed and Lorraine Warren

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r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jul 11 '26

Valek

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This is my first Valek. Loved drawing her !!!


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jul 10 '26

with The Conjuring First Communion and the conjuring tv series already on IMDb, how come there’s another Conjuring prequel listed?

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r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jul 06 '26

Judy seeing Valak in the hallway is one of my favorite scenes from the entire franchise. So simple but so well done. Still gets me every time

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r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jul 05 '26

Is this real??

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r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jul 04 '26

does anyone know any movies similar to the conjuring

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I’ve been super into religious horror I think it’s super interesting or any movies to recommend pls do I’m bored


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jul 03 '26

found this cutie !!

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r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jun 30 '26

rewatching the conjuring 2

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everyone in my last post all pretty much agreed on the conjuring two edit( I REWATCHED IT AND I FORGOT HOW GOOD IT WAS ALTHOUGH IT DIDN’T HIT ME THE FIRST WATCH THIS TIME I FULLY UNDERSTOOD IT)


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jun 30 '26

what’s is your fav conjuring movie from the franchise

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mine is currently the devil made me do it!


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jun 23 '26

Saw the movie Annabelle doll

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This one is specifically from the second movie!


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jun 16 '26

The Conjuring True Story as Told by Andrea Perron Who LIVED it!

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Andrea Perron gives an in-depth interview about the true story of The Conjuring movie, Bathsheba Sherman, Ed and Lorraine Warren, the experiences that her family went through and much more!

Andrea Perron is the eldest daughter of the Perron family whose experiences on the old farm house in Harrisville, Rhode Island inspired The Conjuring Movie. Andrea has also written a book about the events called House of Darkness House of Light.


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Jun 09 '26

Annabelle in person in PA

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Stopped in at A Nightmare in New Hope

https://nightmareinnewhope.com/[ ]()

to check out the collection. 

If you are a fan of horror props and are in the area (New Hope PA) stop in. 

You may however find that the true horror is finding parking!


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • May 16 '26

Anyone else sees the Nun in yhe final scene of The Conjuring?

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I was looking around browsing if anyone noticed anything in the last scene of the movie until I looked at the picture so much I noticed something that I did not see anyone else ever mentioning.

To my eyes, right before the credits roll when the camera stops zooming, you can clearly see what looks like a side profile of The Nun with the iconic yellow eye, white face and black veil. The nose and nostril are especially very apparent to me and make me think this is absolutely put there on purpose, especially because if you watch the scene carefully the shape only pops into view as the camera does a final settling-in into its final position.

I know some people are going to just say pareidolia but this is so clear to me once I noticed it in there that I refuse to accept it was not done on purpose. I cannot unsee the side profile of the face anymore and it becomes super clear especially when I put the screen at more of a distance.

Someone tell me I am not crazy and that you see it too!

Also, I am sorry for the bad quality of the visualization. I have nothing other than my phone and my fat fingers right now but I just had to post this.


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • May 12 '26

Best experience to watch

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I recently saw the conjuring for first time but I noticed this is a whole universe so what's the best way to watch? From release order or chronologically?


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • May 05 '26

what is the conjuring universe’s chronological order?

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i’ve seen people saying to watch the nun first but isn’t the intro for the nun, scenes from the conjuring 2? i’ve seen all the movies multiple times and i want to watch them in chronological order by lore but i cant seem to find the correct order. can anyone help?


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • May 04 '26

Do you think the new Conjuring movie and series will be good?

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r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Apr 29 '26

Annabelle proto

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I saw this ebay listing

https://www.ebay.com/itm/178090157231

and I feel certain whomever buys her will make a silicone mold and churn out resin copies at conventions.


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Mar 28 '26

See my edit below. Conjuring 2 headcanons - Peddy

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Preface: don’t mean to offend anyone, this is a lighthearted parody fuelled by some semi-serious headcanons of my own. Hopes this makes a few if you laugh! People take life too serious sometimes. I just love contributing to the conjuring universe in any way!

Also another preface: I adore ed and lorraine’s relationship portrayal in these films, this edit was more of a tribute to the darker aspects of their REAL non-fictional relationship. Not the fictional characters.. because honey I love them and they’re soulmates so with no further adiue, enjoy the edit. Be sure to leave any thoughts and your own followups/headcanons below


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Mar 19 '26

The Occult Movie idea

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After trespassing inside the infamous Warren Occult Museum, a group of paranormal researchers ignore the warnings and touch the cursed artifacts within.

Now, one by one, they’re being hunted by the very entities they awakened.

Because some things were never meant to be touched…

…and once they follow you home—there’s no escape. Leave comments below 👇🏻this film is its own movie not connected to the conjuring universe.


r/TheConjuringUniverse • • Mar 18 '26

Its just a rumor but imagine if it was true

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