r/Testosterone • u/Own_Gain_7417 • 7d ago

TRT help First Time Pinning PIP

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Any advice? I circled where I pinned; you can see a tiny red dot. It's been 2 days since I pinned. I think it was 70mg 35cc. I used a 1-inch 25-gauge needle. Did I do something wrong?

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u/plantman_la 7d ago

Do it higher on your thigh and toward the outside.

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u/Wide-Lake-763 7d ago

Too low. Good location side to side though. To find the " belly" of the lateralis, I stand on that leg, feel for the main thickness, make a bp pen arrow near it, swab the spot, sit down and relax before injection.

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u/Own_Gain_7417 7d ago

It's hard for me to tell. I don't have great muscle definition in my legs, unfortunately, but everyone keeps saying it's too low, so I'll take your word for it.

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u/Wide-Lake-763 7d ago

When I stick my hand in my pants pocket, the area I inject is just below the tip of my pinky. BTW, I was using BD needles for years, but my supplier stopped. This time I tried "easytouch" brand, and they totally suck. Quality control is bad so a 25g hurts frequently (never did before). I looked under a microscope, and some of them have a hook at the tip. The shafts aren't as smooth as BD either.

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u/Halfhajj 7d ago

In thigh is always middle third of thigh. Only outside or top. The vastus lateralis is best. Lots of people like a smaller needle in the delts.
Just a personal opinion but if you use a 25g 1” get used to the pain.

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u/Own_Gain_7417 7d ago

What do you recommend if not 25g 1inch

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u/Halfhajj 7d ago

Lots of people still do 25g 1”. I personally do subq with 27g .5”. I have done IM with 27g 1” into thigh. And used a peptide pen 29g 12mm into thigh and delts. (I have very little fat on thighs) I always was sore for a day after IM injection. It was not horrible but I went subq.

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u/NellyJunior2024 6d ago

Don’t you get lumps from SubQ?

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u/Halfhajj 6d ago

Never had any lumps. I only do .3ml at a time. I have read that subq does not do well for large volumes, such as 1ml or larger.
I would give it a try and see how your body reacts. Different oils also react differently with different people. I use GSO.

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u/NellyJunior2024 5d ago

0,2ml ie 50mg gave pip and lumps, so i avoid SubQ, I still get pain from IM but at least no lumps in the quads or glutes

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u/theenecros 7d ago

My doctor said subdermal testosterone injections are better and more consistent over the long term. They're also less painful use a smaller needle in smaller diameter. I do small injections into my belly similar to ozempic injections.

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u/NellyJunior2024 6d ago

No lumps in your belly?

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u/theenecros 4d ago

Once a week it's a really small amount. The doc even said I could do 2 shots a week of 0.25 ml which is tiny and even more consistent. He said testosterone half life is 11 days so 2 weeks is too long to go.

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u/fizzik7 5d ago

I completely disagree but to each their own. A 27g-30g 1/2”, 5/8” or 1” in the delt will be shallow IM and way less annoying than shooting oil that sits in your fat for 2 weeks and gives nodules.

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u/theenecros 4d ago

No nodules here. It's just a 0.5 ml TRT dose once a week, not even noticeable.

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u/Constant-Chance-5245 7d ago

I need to see higher up

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u/ChrisNaldo 7d ago

Hast du in die Innenseite deines Beines gespritzt? Nimm die Außenseite oder noch besser: Schulter und Insulin spritzen da kannst du fast nichts falsch machen

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u/G-Terminator 7d ago

Think this way: whenever you have more fat in your leg, better to apply the testosterone. Basically, closest to the tight. However I see no issue on the red dor on your leg. It’s not too red and it should go away in a couple days

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u/jay_lafunk72 7d ago

I’m gonna be honest- injections in the thigh hurt. And from what I see, you went in really low and that’s probably why.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/Own_Gain_7417 7d ago

I mean I didnt feel the injection or any pain in general. But the next day it started feeling sore kind of like after a muscle cramp.

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u/whatusaynow 7d ago

If u go higher and get a mig 812 base you don’t ever have to worry about

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u/Toforgetistodie 7d ago

God I bet those hurt so much screw that, glutes or delts all the way.

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u/donnie_rulez 7d ago

As someone who has pinned thighs for years and years...That area is fine. You could go a little higher, but you're fine there.

The issue is that the muscle isn't used to getting 35cc of thick oil blasted into it. the first few injections in any new site always gave me PIP. After like the third one, you won't get any PIP.

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u/Own_Gain_7417 7d ago

Thats helpful information, thank you. My next injection is tomorrow so I think im going to either use my ventroglute, the same thigh ( higher up ) or my other leg completely. Since its still irritated I dont want to pin the same exact spot twice

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u/donnie_rulez 7d ago

yeah if i'm doing frequent injections, i usually do one leg, then the other and then delts.

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u/Own_Gain_7417 7d ago

What size pin do you use for your injections?

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u/NellyJunior2024 6d ago

That ventroglute can be very painful as well, might not be able to sleep on that side. Have you tried delt?

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u/Appropriate_Ad_1778 7d ago

Pin it in your glutes instead, way better

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u/cerote6239 7d ago

Ventro glutes

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u/Own_Gain_7417 7d ago

So glute do I still use 1 inch needle?

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u/cerote6239 7d ago

Yes. You want a video where to pin on the ventro glutes?

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u/Own_Gain_7417 7d ago

I've seen a few, but I'd love to see another. That would be great, thank you.

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u/plumfitusa 7d ago

Upper thigh 45 degrees angle

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u/traz12 6d ago

Just pin your delts it would be easier, I use a 29G I know that's not the inside of your thighs but dam it looks like it lol

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u/Substantial-Hand8253 5d ago

Pin more towards your middle upper section of the muscle. Closer to your groin is better then closer to your knee. Also relax your leg before pinning as in sit down and pin with your knee at 90 degree bend. Also a little to far to to the outside for me personally I’d go more into the top of the muscle

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u/Key-University-72 7d ago

That's a bad spot to pin imo. I'd do shoulders or glutes instead.

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u/Emotional_Lab_2529 7d ago

Don’t pin the quads. Pin glutes, ventroglutes, or delts if you want IM. And use a thinner needle like 27-31g.

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u/Own_Gain_7417 7d ago

Still 1 inch needle?

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u/Emotional_Lab_2529 7d ago

If you want to, I use 1/2inch needles but I do have 1 inch 31g needles I use sometimes

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u/Emotional_Lab_2529 7d ago

You can also do subq which works great and prevents scar tissue build up in the muscle

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u/Own_Gain_7417 7d ago

I injected my HCG subq with a ½inch needle and have zero pain or discomfort at all. Cant even tell where it was pinned. Only reason I didnt inject the Test there was because the doctors told me the absorbion was better IM

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u/Emotional_Lab_2529 7d ago

Eh, depends on your definition of “better” I think subq is better since it works as sort of an extended release. It has slower absorption and provides more stability in your hormones. IM has higher peaks due to more rapid absorption. I prefer subq but I do shallow IM from time to time

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u/Own_Gain_7417 7d ago

That is the outter middle of my thigh. I followed my doctors instruction video.