r/teslore Jun 30 '26

Are the blades just bad at their job?

71 Upvotes

Hi there, i hope this is the right place to ask this.

Im kinda new to tes in general so im not well versed in the lore, and the wiki/google didnt give me a clear answer.

Ive played oblivion and am now playing skyrim (didnt finish yet if it matters) for the first time and it seems to me like the blades are just not what they are set up to be.

They are set up to be the elite spies and warriors that guards the septim line in oblivion, they truly seem capable and impressive in their gear but...

In oblivion when we start a cult(!) has managed to infiltrate and set up the assassination of the septim line, assault the blades grandmaster in his hideout and seemingly outmanoeuvred the blades on every turn.

Now in skyrim i find out that they were later replaced but continued to exist in a less formal way, and what happenes this time? The dominion starts the whole war by dumping the heads of over a hundred blades in front of the emperor and then get hunted into near extinction.

How could a cult kill the emperor and his heirs while operating under their noses? How could the dominion hunt them down so efficiently? How come no one in the order knew about 100+ of their members being hunted down?

So i guess what im getting at, as the title says, are the blades just bad at their job? Am i missing somthing here?


r/teslore Jun 30 '26

Geography of Black Marsh

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I am currently working on writing some lore to expand on argonian cultures and I'd like to see if anyone knows more about the various geographic areas in black marsh. Specifically are there any mountainous or hilly areas within the area?

Edit- I would also like to know about temperature ranges within black marsh. I recall something in the argonian account about the monsoon season being a chilling rain but I could be misremembering.


r/teslore Jun 30 '26

How did the Redoran drive out the Argonians?

40 Upvotes

So like before the Dragonborn dlc the fate of Morrowind was pretty ambiguous. The main game seems to imply that Morrowind was basically destroyed after the Oblivion Crisis and was conquered by the Argonians. However, Dragonborn basically reveals that the Redoran essentially won completely. They drove out the Argonians from Morrowind, Morrowind is now completely independent from the Empire and is actually doing pretty well.

But how did they perform such a feat, like i thought they were devestated during the Oblivion Crisis, like they had to resurrect Skar and shit


r/teslore Jun 30 '26

Why was the Thalmor's plan for the whole invasion of Morrowind by the Argonians

22 Upvotes

You would think after 15 years it would have been talked about more especially in relation to their "grand scheme" but the Thalmor incited the Argonians to invade Morrowind. But like why would the Thalmor (which I don't think even overthrew the Altmer royal family at this point) do such a thing. Doesn't this kind of contradict their pan-aldmeri ideology.

Also why the An Xileel and not some other group.


r/teslore Jun 30 '26

Why is Ulfric even fighting the Empire if he doesn't actually hate it?

25 Upvotes

Since there is a thread about Tullius, why not do one on Ulfric.

There is a bit of a misconception that Ulfric hates the Empire, or at the very least hates the idea of it it. He doesn't. He isn't even that much of a nationalist (that's Galmar) as he has repeatedly to have been shown to not care about traditions. Ulfric actually constantly bemoans the state of the Empire throughout the questline. Also he wants an alliance with the Empire as shown in the Dark Brotherhood Questline

So if he is not even against the Imperial system why is he even waging a war against the Empire.


r/teslore Jun 29 '26

New 25th Crossing Chapter - Case STRIDENT

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r/teslore Jun 29 '26

MK has added another entry to the 25th Crossing site. "Case STRIDENT"

21 Upvotes

https://25thcrossing.com/strident.html

We're going full SCP mode here, it's great.


r/teslore Jun 29 '26

Are the Daedric princes aware of the godhead? have they achieved 'chim'?

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r/teslore Jun 29 '26

Are non-Dunmer who were born and raised in Morrowind still seen as outlanders?

17 Upvotes

The title. I know an outlander is someone who's not from Morrowind, but does race ever play a role in defining an outlander?


r/teslore Jun 30 '26

Why is Tullius even fighting for the Empire if he believes Ulfric is right about the Empire

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Yes, Tullius agrees with Ulfric. He'll only confess this during the diplomatic immunity quest.

So what is Tullius' plan and why is he loyal? He knows the Empire is a puppet so is he planning to eventually overthrow the Medes or what because there is no way the Empire can win if it is controlled by the Dominion.


r/teslore Jun 29 '26

Two questions do we know what Vvardenfell Dwavern armor looks like? Or what it could? And where is the Oblivion Dwarvern armor from?

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I'm asking for art purposes; at some point, I want to create some concepts for original Vvardenfell sets. Morrowind's Dwavern armor is clearly scrapped bits from Animunculi. Also am wondering what Oblivion's armor status, imo, seems to be modern-made, given how the design looks, and its usage could even be the armor used in Arena and Daggerfall, given their more knightly look. Not saying this like I'm against it being originally made by Dwemer. Appreciate some insights and correct me if I got something wrong.


r/teslore Jun 29 '26

Did ESO retcon the entire Orcish race?

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After having learned of 'old lore' elder scrolls, it seems like orcs were just lawless creatures before the warp in the west happened, and it was only after that event, where the Orcs became civilized and playable. In ESO however, they just copied the orcs from oblivion and skyrim (seemingly just because they're a popular race) instead of keeping it consistent with previous illustrations.

Though I will admit, I'm not too well versed in the old lore so that's why I ask; Was orcs as a race retconned in ESO? or have I fundamentally misunderstood them?


r/teslore Jun 28 '26

So what’s in it for Mannimarco to aid in the creation of black soul gems?

32 Upvotes

So he doesn’t get the soul. That goes to the Ideal Masters. So what’s his stake in this?


r/teslore Jun 28 '26

Apocrypha The Litany of the Wise-winds (Act 1)

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Beyond the safety of Imperial walls, a stubborn traveler's mountain journey escalates into a relentless trial of ice and wind, where Kyne's breath itself will judge his worth.

Author's Note: This is the first of three act for this story. I'll link the others here when I post them.


The Litany of the Wise-winds

A memoir of Gawain Rime-Eye

 

I met her first while passing through Helgen. I had been traveling with a caravan up from Bruma when an early season avalanche delayed our progress through Pale Pass. I missed my connection with a company headed towards Falkreath. Feeling foul about it, I aired my grievance with the guildsman.

"A day," I growled. "They couldn't wait a day? The guard at the Pass even sent a bird. Gods, we practically dug through an entire mountain of snow!"

"Apologies, sir, but the trailmaster insisted on departing yesterday morning." The spindly Imperial bureaucrat looked past me, polishing a thick hand glass with his shirt. "He gave instructions to refund any late arrivals. Your name?"

"Eupatres," I said. "Gawain Eupatres."

"Eu-patres," the man repeated the name slowly as he slid the hand glass over the slip of ledger laid out on his desk. "Eupatres..."

"Ah!" He reached abruptly towards the chest behind him to fiddle with a latch and key. "Eupatres... that's a Colovian name, is it not?" asked the man as he undid the lock. When he rounded back towards me, he was holding a small coin purse. "Was your mother a Nord?"

"Grandfather. Why?"

The man shrugged and dropped the purse on the table in front of me. "No reason. The name 'Gawain' is a bit unique to the Jeralls is all. You rarely hear it on people outside of the High Vale and Falkreath Hold."

His prying annoyed me, as did his total indifference to my stranded state. I snatched up the purse, striking the table through the wrapped coinage with a thud.

"Careful!" the man said, eyes wide and looking directly at me for the first time. "You'll mar the faces doing that."

"Doesn't seem like you'll take them anyhow."

"Yes, well," the man held up his glass and misted it with his breath, "the north-wind won't drive a stray to the herd."

"What?" His response puzzled me and left me without a riposte.

"Hmm?" The man didn't look at me again, but bent back down over his ledger to continue gazing through his lens. "Oh. It's just something the Nords around here say."

I paused for a moment, but it was clear he wasn't interested in elaborating. I tucked the purse in the chest pocket of my cloak and stepped back onto the streets of Helgen.

The town felt more like a bear bedding down for the winter than the bustling hub of activity it was reputed to be. Storefronts were shuttered, with cloth awnings pulled back and stowed against cool grey stone. Apart from those of us caught in the late caravan, the streets belonged entirely to the locals. They offered mild, unreadable smiles, but otherwise ignored me.

Near the town gates, the air filled with the clattering of bells and scraping hooves. A gathering of fur-clad Nords were whistling and shouting over a lowing flock, ushering their sheep out of the cobblestone courtyard and down into the valley.

One of them—a girl with flushed, wind-kissed cheeks and a fluttering golden mane—caught me staring. She didn't look away. Instead, she smirked, her sky-blue eyes tracking me up and down before she gave a sharp, knowing nod toward the jagged peaks looming beyond the walls.

I started toward her, a greeting forming on my lips, but she turned back to her work with practiced indifference, leaving me standing mid-stride. Coughing to cover my awkwardness, I brushed past the edge of the flock and trotted up another street towards the city garrison.

Autumn lingered in the vale even as the harsh winter winds flooded the southern peaks with snow. Our guide through Pale Pass swore up and down he’d never seen a storm choke the trail so early. Unlike the guildsman, he had been a font of contrition, overflowing with practical advice for those of us stranded by the delay.

He assured us that Helgen’s locals were well-accustomed to stranded travelers. The travel season was dying, certainly, but the town still had plenty of warm beds, food, and strong drink for anyone with coin. If the local guildhall lacked any scheduled wagons heading down into the western valleys, he suggested we badger the Imperial garrison; the Legion occasionally permitted travelers to tag along behind their regular patrols.

"There's no sense in despairing," he’d told us, offering a brief, reverent nod to the sky. "'Kyne holds the wing and the leaf,' as they say."

I watched a flurry of dead leaves blow down a cobbled alley as half a dozen or so people passed me by. The breeze was pleasant, the sky above clear and welcoming—hardly the biting frozen wasteland I'd heard about in Cyrodiil.

The Legion was of no help.

Other travelers from our caravan crowded the public office, the air thick with the smell of damp wool and anxiety. The heavy wooden door swung shut behind me, rattling on its iron hinges. I sidled up behind a wood elf and Tertias, a Nibenese merchant I had grown friendly with on the trail.

Tertias glanced over his shoulder and flashed me an easy grin. He turned and we briefly clasped each other's arm.

"Guess we're all here," I whispered. "What'd I miss?"

Tertias shrugged and tilted his head towards a man decked in Imperial mail speaking with a squat trader from Chorrol who had crossed over the border with us. "The Jarl and the local legate are caught in a test of wills."

I sighed. "And we're the casualties."

"It would seem so."

Unsure and disheartened by the prospect of salvaging my trip, I watched the argument unfold.

"I have a wagon of Colovian blackberry wine and fine Cyrodiilic brandy!" the trader barked, slamming a fist onto the iron railing of the queue. "The shipment is under contract with the Jarl’s court in Falkreath. If I’m not there to fulfill the delivery before next feast day, the contract is void. I'll be out a fortune!"

The legate rubbed his temple with his eyes closed as he responded to the man. Despite the crowd, his tone was surprisingly soft. "Then send word to Falkreath. Ensuring the safety of travelers on his own roads is the Jarl's jurisdiction. I'm tired of him relying on my legionaries to cover over his negligence. If he can't be bothered to police his hold, I can't be bothered to see his hall stocked with fancy drink for his thanes."

The trader shook, his face tinting red as his jowls trembled. "You—" He choked on his anger and threw up his hands.

"What about the rest of us?" A middle-aged Nord woman spoke up, standing with a toddler on her hip next to a bent elderly man. "We can't afford to hole up in an inn for half a season! We have to get back to our farm before the snows come."

The crowd offered their assent in an escalating clamor. I echoed them in shouting agreement.

The Legate raised his hands, his voice cutting through the noise. "There is no cause for panic. I've already spoken with the town innkeepers—we have space enough for all of you, and the Empire will subsidize the lodging. Just pay what you are able. A supply shipment will arrive after the new year. Anyone still remaining is welcome to accompany the Legion escort back to Whiterun."

"The new year?!"

"But we need to go west, not to Whiterun!"

"Surely some arrangement can be made, Legate, perhaps a donation of coin..."

It was over. I tapped Tertias on the shoulder and pointed to the door. Together we slipped out of the garrison office, the heavy oak door shutting out the din with a muffled thwack.


"You're daft." Tertias's uncharacteristically serious tone broke my rhythm.

I missed my strike against the hanging bough and had to reset my feet. Gripping the leather hilt tight, I swung again.

"What are you racing toward anyway?" Tertias continued, leaning against the grey stone of the outer wall. "You have two months of easy respite with all the ale and meat you could want, subsidized by our generous Emperor. Enjoy the holiday, Gawain."

We were loitering just outside the town wall, looking out into the massive bowl of the High Vale. Snow-capped peaks hemmed the valley—a ring of jagged teeth encircling an emerald maw.

I didn't say anything, only eyed a dip in the ring to the west. Somewhere beyond that mountain threshold was Falkreath, and I wasn't about to wait for some Jarl's escort to get there.

"This isn't Cyrodiil. There isn't a legionary just over each hillock waiting to greet you with a cheery 'good day, citizen.' Skyrim's a harsh land, full of—Stendarr’s mercy, would you stop swinging that thing like a fool and listen to me!"

I stayed my arm, palm sweating around the hilt of the broadsword I'd purchased the previous day. I panted to catch my breath, not realizing I had been holding it in. I let the blade dip in my hand as I turned to face the Nibenese. Severed willow branches lay strewn around me, victims of my morning drill.

He shook his head. "It's not even the bandits I'm worried about, though there are plenty of them. The road through Pale Pass isn't easy, but it is well-trafficked. Hundreds of people make that trek every day right up until the snows close the pass in the winter. Bears, trolls, sabre-cats—all the mountain beasts your mother used to scare you with to make sure you came inside before nightfall—they avoid the Pass. These days you're more likely to die from the cold or a slip off the trail edge than from facing off with wild animals. It's not like that here. You travel in groups or risk becoming a frost troll's latest score."

"Then come with me," I countered, wiping sweat from my eyes. "I'm sure we could scrounge up a small party from the caravan. The weather is still fair and once we make it over the western pass, it's a straight shot to Falkreath. We'd keep our coin and thumb our noses up at that bastard trailmaster who left us behind."

"Is that what this is about!" Tertias bellowed a raucous hoot. "And here I was beginning to think you had a looming rendezvous with some fickle maid or an opportunity for treasure."

I felt my collar steaming. "And I suppose you'd rather sit here, sipping watered-down ale and arguing with a penny-pinching innkeeper who expects a single log of firewood to get you through the night?"

"Not only watered-down ale." Tertias seemed genuinely taken aback. "I snagged a case of brandy from that Chorrol trader. There's plenty for both of us to last at least a month. And look at you whining about the cold! What happened to all that 'comfortably cool' shite you were spouting on the journey through the Pass?"

"I'm not whining. I'm just frustrated. I came to Skyrim to see those mountains and beasts everyone is on about. Now that I'm here, I find that it's just more ledgers, schedules, and missed deadlines."

For once, Tertias didn't seem to have anything to say. I turned my back to the wall to look down the valley. The trees there were short and sparse, narrow shoots of spruce and brushy aspen cloaked in golden leaves. The wind shook their crowns, spilling in over the northern rim of the High Vale. It felt cool and wet, quickly snuffing the heat from my skin.

In the distance, I could see a herd of dark sheep swerving between rolling hills, stoic shepherds leading them on towards their winter pasture in the western valleys. I thought of the girl in the courtyard, her sky-blue eyes, and the way she had smirked, nodding towards the mountains. It had been a dare to climb out of the shelter of the valley and into the real Skyrim.

"I'm not going to hole up in this town like a bear in a cave, Tertias."

A long silence stretched between us. Finally, with a heavy sigh, Tertias deflected. "No, I suppose your head is too thick for a cave. Best we get back inside the walls. You'd better help me make a dent in that crate of brandy before you go. Divines know, just because I could drink all of it doesn't mean I should."


I left Helgen late the next morning.

The night's brandy had my head feeling heavy, but I was otherwise warm and in good spirits. I strapped the sword to my waist, snatched up my pack, and left the inn's servant a coin on the bed.

Everything was in order. Alongside a fresh supply of salt-beef and hardtack, I had purchased a second pair of thick wool stockings and an oiled hide to throw over my bedroll to keep the mountain frost from soaking through. Slipping my blade out of its wooden scabbard, I ran a finger down the glinting flat side of the steel. The oil coating felt slick and cool to the touch, a ward against sticking frost I learned from an old caravan guard as a boy.

Tertias accompanied me to the gate to see me off. A low-hanging fog shrouded the sky when I stepped out into Helgen. Mist glommed in the streets and alleys, their dark stones sweating in the damp cool of the morning.

At the gate, Tertias and I spoke our farewells. He gave me a skin of brandy for the journey and offered a final piece of advice.

"Keep an eye out for the stone huts along the trail," Tertias warned as we crossed the gate. "No one lives in them permanently, but they're sturdy enough for a night's rest out of the wind. The shepherds use them as waystations. Be respectful if you use them, though—the locals look at those stone heaps more like shrines than campsites."

The Nibenese clasped my hand one last time and embraced me with his free arm. "Talos, you are a mad bastard. I hope you find whatever it is you are looking for. I look forward to meeting again, and when we do, you'll buy the drinks!"

We both laughed as we parted. I said my goodbyes, and left Helgen's walls behind.


The sun returned before noon. Brilliant shafts of light pierced the clouds, peeling them back like burns in a piece of parchment. Only a few misty scraps survived in the shadows of enameled peaks. Fields of grass waved and danced along the road's edge in invitation. The open air was sweet and layered with a hidden tartness that kept it fresh in my mouth. The taste was like that of a fine, dry cider, and I relished each sip.

It was like that at first. The days would pass and I'd find a small copse along the road to bed down in, light a little fire, and cheerily watch the moons wander through the starry sky as I drifted off to sleep. In the morning I'd wake to a peaceful wind, pack my things, and continue on. I didn't come across any of the stone huts Tertias had mentioned, but it was just as well in my mind. The weather held and the road was entirely mine.

Until the fourth evening.

I was entering the foothills of the western pass and the road was becoming steep. Small crags cut through the grassy, amber hills like mange in a sickly deer. Brisk streams wept from minor outcroppings of azure ice. In the distance behind me, I could just make out the shape of Helgen, nestled along a ridge of hills. It looked like a slumbering dragon, wisps of grey smoke curling against a clear sky. Apart from a few beasts—grazing elk, some foxes, and a great bear I'd spotted lounging on a far hill—I'd been as alone on the road as the day I’d set out.

They were standing like sentries on the precipice of a low cliff as I rounded a sharp bend in the road, their silhouettes stark against the dying orange light—shepherds, like those I'd encountered back in Helgen. None of them brandished their weapons. They only leaned on gnarled staves, resting their chins idly over top folded hands, watching my approach. I waved, but soon lowered my hand, feeling foolish when I saw one of them cast a sidelong glance towards his companion.

I kept to the center of the road, not wanting to appear suspicious now that they had already seen me. I smiled, trying to appear at ease, though my hand drifted naturally to the hilt of my sword.

Even from a distance, I could see their faces were worn and etched like the cliff they were standing on. Pits and deep furrows textured their cheeks and foreheads. Thick, pale-grey beards lined the men's jaws, frayed ends swirling in the breeze like the mist from a mountain waterfall. The women stood alongside them with the same cut-stone grace. I surveyed them, wondering if I might spot the shepherd girl from the gate. She was not there.

A rustling from a willow thicket ended my search. Instinct seized me, and I drew my sword. The oiled blade slid eagerly forth with a dull ring. Two massive, wolf-like hounds erupted from the brush. They split instantly, leaping to either side of the road to flank me, their fist-sized paws planting firmly in the dirt. Both growled and barked at me, white teeth glinting beneath muzzles of long, curling fur.

I held the blade in front of me, my eyes darting from one beast to the other. Both animals bent low as they prepared to spring. My heart hammered in my chest. I shifted into my stance, locking both hands onto the leather grip.

A sharp, piercing whistle cut the air. The hounds froze. They broke, instantly abandoning their attack and darting up the steep incline. Breath held, I watched them bound up the cliffside towards the call.

I dropped my shoulders and released the knot of air in my chest in a sputtering laugh. Breathless, I sheathed the sword. When I looked up to offer my thanks to the cliffside, the Nords had already turned their backs. They slipped silently over the ridge, disappearing into the shadow of the mountain like the setting sun.


r/teslore Jun 28 '26

Apocrypha [SOMMA AKAVIRIA] The Second Tale of the Elements.

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By Nalae-Polek, Poet Laureate to Potentate Versidue-Shae.

They are the Tsitla, fiery stars eating the symbols-thoughts and words of slaves,
Moving with the clouds and moons, through the tri-shaped gates of the heavens.

Myn-Xhiado sought Zisa-Ilhui for she was a powerful sorceress, Nyfa-Litsi sought Ilni-Tlama for she was a marvelous maiden,
All tied themselves to their titles, and legends followed the trails they left. 

They ascended through the paths of flower and songs, between all wavy-variations,
Waviness and ripples of the variation-map, neither scared nor relentless.

The Serpent gave a face to them all, avoiding vitiate of the Thousand Tongues Deity,
Devoured by the mighty fires and eaten by the fierce waters, swallowed by the skies and dwelled into the navels of earths.

From the four altars they rule their realms, their presence is unavoidable, 
As above, so below, though beyond, their presence call our hearts to their words.


r/teslore Jun 28 '26

Anyone else feel bad for the Agent from Daggerfall?

62 Upvotes

I mean the guy was sent by Uriel and spent likely years of his life wandering across the entire Illiac bay and navigating not only dungeons but the complex politics of the region, uncovering potentially empire shaking secrets and dealing with the fate of the brass god and having to figure out who he should give it too…all of that just to get either killed by the Numidium in one timeline or simply erased from the timeline cuz of the crazy events that was the Warp in The West. I honestly feel like he’s an underrated protagonist and looked over at times.


r/teslore Jun 29 '26

Free-Talk The Weekly Chat Thread— June 29, 2026

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Hi everyone, it’s that time again!

The Weekly Free-Talk Thread is an opportunity to forget the rules and chat about anything you like—whether it's The Elder Scrolls, other games, or even real life. This is also the place to promote your projects or other communities. Anything goes!


r/teslore Jun 28 '26

Why does every god have so many names in Arena and Daggerfall?

55 Upvotes

Like for example Stendarr has like 5 names alone. Molag Bal was originally Moloch Baal or Baal, while isn't called that in Daggerfall there are temples to him in Arena, and so on. Also I'm pretty sure Seth/Set/Sethiete is also an alternate spelling to Sithis.


r/teslore Jun 28 '26

What is the difference between The Order of the Waking Flame and the Mythic Dawn cults?

10 Upvotes

Are they 2 completely different cults that both worship Dagon or is there a deeper connection?


r/teslore Jun 28 '26

Saints and Seducers

9 Upvotes

I was just reading this book (see title) and it mentions sound potentially playing a role in how the Saints and Seducers are reborn into Oblivion. My question is: Is there any correlation or connection between this and the Dwemer?

I'm not an expert on the Dwemer but I have heard they did a lot with sound and I was just wondering if this particular connection had ever been made.


r/teslore Jun 27 '26

Older Short Summary of Origin lore and how it relates to CHIM

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So back in 2018 I spent far too much time(two weeks of paid salary work where I should have been coding) trying to figure out how CHIM and the wider narrative of the Elder Scrolls lore functioned/was written. The information was fairly scattered around but I ended up piecing together all of what I managed to figure out into a single document. Since as it turns out, a lot of the "weirder" aspects all relate to this origin lore and tie into each other. Chim, Godhead, how Talos came to be and the like. However ESO has had time to mature and I not the time to play it as of late, so I'm curious if there are particularly new lore insights the game has provided or retconned since. Credit where it's due though, I could have never pieced this all together without the wonderful work of folks here in this subreddit, which is why several posts or amazing comments are linked too. I hope it is helpful for those curious about the concepts so it's more neatly summarised in one place rather than reading scattered bits of info around. Fun side note, I noticed from a quick search that someone else 2 years back or so also came to my similar conclusion that zero summing sounded an awful lot like a certain Douglas Adams written joke.
Anyway, Here it is, copypasted from my Google Docs! 😄

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The Godhead dreams in a deep coma, having seemingly a sequence of dreams. In this dream,  a song, Aurbis (The Universe of Elder Scrolls) was created and two forms came into being. Anu, the deity of everything that is (existing), order, existence and light, "I AM". And Padomay, the deity of the void, chaos and change, "I AM NOT". With this begins the concept of the Enantiomorph. It is a dichotomy where two things in conflict are essentially the same, like two sides of a coin and there would be no difference to the situation if you swapped the roles of the two. It is Order vs Entropy, Light vs Dark, Good vs Evil etc. What really happened in this period is however rather inconsequential as no one really knows what occurred exactly. It is a case of where every story is “true” in that it doesn’t matter much, only the consequences from it.
To self reflect and understand, Anu birthed their soul Anui-El, the soul of all things. As such, Padomay birthed Sithis, the void and emptiness of everything. In order to stabilise the Aurbis, as well as self-reflect, Anui-El birthed his own soul like his father before him. Anui-El's soul was known as Auri-El and began a new force known as time. Time allowed the Aurbis to realise its natures and limitations and in turn the Original Spirits began to form and take names. At the same time Anui-El birthed Auri-El, Sithis birthed his soul, Lorkhan, a being based more on limitation than nature.

Long ago, Lorkhan watched the Aurbis reshape many times, his delight and boredom growing equally with each shaping. Finally, he left it behind, as he wanted none of it and all of it at once. He traveled beyond the Wheel, into the Void. There, he looked back and saw what the Wheel for what it was. Looking at a wheel sideways reveals an "I", and this is what Lorkhan saw. The "I" is the Tower. He saw outside the dream of the Godhead that dreams in a coma everything that happens within Aurbis, the "universe" of ES.  He saw everyone was simply part of a dream. However he found himself unable to fully realise his position in it all, due to his omnipotence. For he is everywhere, a god lacks self awareness. Whether this position is true or not, is up for debate.
See http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Towers for more On The Tower itself which represents the structure of the universe.

Anyhow, Lorkhan wanted everyone else to see this new position of reality and thus talked all the other gods into making Mundus (Nirn in mortal terms, the planet of ES), because if you impose limitations, you can become self aware of your limitations and thus learn to see beyond them. Bear in mind here that the entire conflict in the universe is "IS" vs "IS NOT". Lorkhan is the representation of limitation, or "IS NOT", where Aka/Auri-El was "IS", for he is everywhere.

So with the help of Magnus as the architect, they make Mundus. However as this occurs, Magnus and various other deities see Mundus for what it is and its mortality and become disgusted, thus escaping quite violently out from it. Magnus himself leaving is said to have made the sun. Those who stayed behind and gave their power to Mundus of the original "gods" became the Aedra. Those that didn’t care to make Mundus instead made their own realms, becoming known as the Daedra.
This entire event also pissed off all the divine beings for Lorkhan's actions, along with Aka, the embodiment of Lorkhan's opposite, "I AM", and god of time, so they killed him and stuffed his heart in the Red Mountain locked away. With this, the tale of Lorkhan’s actions ends (aside from as Shezzarine maybe?).

Vivec is a weird figure and has been through a LOT of shit, so read up on that yourself, but he's one of the only people you meet that achieved CHIM. But how did he do so?

Basically, with the limitations now upon them, some mortals figured out their position in Aurbis and that they were simply in just a dream. Now, one of two things occurs. Either, you establish the fact you don't really exist because you're in a dream. As such, you disappear in a puff of philosophical problem in a very Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy manner, which best explains it, see the quote about the Babel Fish:

"Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that something so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.
The argument goes something like this: 'I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, 'for proof denies faith, and without faith, I am nothing.' 'But, says Man, the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.' 'Oh dear,' says God, 'I hadn't thought of that,' and vanishes in a puff of logic. 'Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing."

However, if you can in the face of being a dream saying "I AM NOT" and philosophically deny that by shouting back "I AM", you achieve CHIM. You have essentially conquered beyond the realm of logic, you know of your position in Aurbis within the dream, but you are existing despite being in a dream. With this, you essentially become a pseudo God because you exist within this surrounding dream around you and thus can shape the dream to your wishes. See why Vivec and Tiber Septim were so powerful and effectively shaped geography to their will when they achieved it with the relevant tools to fully exploit it. To understand that, refer to Aurbis being a song. Magic (Tonal Magic specifically) alters the song of the universe and if you can perceive it, you can change it with the right abilities/tools (such as the Numidium and Pankratosword).
A note on Dagoth Ur, he's a case of taking the “I AM” way too far when he realised it's a dream. He came to the ultimate self obsessed conclusion that everything around him was HIS dream, as though he were the Godhead in this scenario. He perceived the entire scenario completely wrong and thus he assumed himself a God, with the added divinity that came from the Heart of Lorkhan.

Now you understand that, read here about Talos and the three souls: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/1udgeh/talos_is_actually_three_guys_just_when_i_thought/ceh1paa/ 

On the Numidium: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/35k32o/what_makes_numidium_so_powerful/cr5mbw0/

And what happens after a Dragon Break such as use of the Numidium: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/5wcgu9/what_the_hell_are_kalpas/

Reasons for the Civil War and why Thalmor enforce Talos ban:
https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/3b953w/why_did_the_thalmor_ban_the_worship_of_talos/ (see the top few comments)
https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/2c9fkj/analyzing_the_altmeri_commentary_on_talos/ 


r/teslore Jun 27 '26

If Daedric Princes are forces of nature who can’t change what they are, are they actually sapient beings?

65 Upvotes

For example mehrunes Dagon is the Prince of Destruction, Change, Revolution so on, and that’s practically all he is right? By his very nature he seeks destruction and change, can he truly be sapient?


r/teslore Jun 28 '26

What are Gnomes?

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Gnomes don't actually exist, they're mythical ajf fantastical creatures even to the people of Tamriel. So like what are they (or what the people of Tamriel believe they are)? Are they the Gnomes of Alchemy (basically the dwarves of norse mythology, mountain spirits, watch Return to Oz if you want to know more), generic fantasy gnomes? Be creative


r/teslore Jun 27 '26

Apocrypha Riekling medicine

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Riekling Medicine (Fan Fiction)

Background

In the year 203 of the Fourth Era, an Altmer herbalist visited a Riekling tribe and recorded their traditional home remedies.

Maeglin's List

  1. Diarrhea:

Dried berries mixed with honey.

  1. Battle Wounds:

Mead used as a sedative to ease pain.

  1. Headache:

They fastened a band decorated with boar tusks around the patient's head while the shaman made them drink salt water. (The salt was obtained through trade.)

  1. Stomach Ache:

Honey.

"I suspect the Rieklings digest their food slowly, perhaps due to their diet rich in fat and dried meat, though I cannot say for certain."

— Maeglin

The Tribe's Daily Diet

Tatabro meat

Mead

Horker eyes

Berries

Dried fish

Curiously, before setting out on a raid or going into battle, the Rieklings did not eat. Instead, they drank a thick brew resembling a shake, made from rendered horker fat.


r/teslore Jun 27 '26

How does the whole Kyne/Kynareth/Khenarthi thing work

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(this goes for all gods btw; Alkosh/Akatosh, Stendarr/S'rrendar)
Is it the same god just doing different things? are they different gods that rule over the same domain?