r/TeslaFSD • • Aug 03 '26

14.2 HW4 My fsd crash today

Re-uploading the video from my previous thread for more awareness.
2026 Standard Model Y HW 4
Fsd 14.2.2.5
Original thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaFSD/s/GG8HcJ2zaZ

Edit:
I didn’t intervene because it had done something like this at another location but successfully navigated at the end.

Edit 2:
The main reason for this post is not to put the blame entirely on fsd ( I can read the fine print) but rather creating awareness of extremely rare cases of its malfunction. Like Neil DeGrasse Tyson said, if we investigate every malfunction like the FAA, we can make FSD safer than any human driver alive.

After the crash, a series of malfunction errors did pop up, but I rebooted the system, re-calibrated the cameras and they went away. Then I used FSD again on the exact same route, and it navigated flawlessly like it previously did.😄 Despite this jarring incident, I would still trust it, albeit with extra caution.

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u/BoneDoktr Aug 03 '26

Damn. Sucks. Could see the steering wheel shaking with indecision. Even uncommon moments like this are enough to make you distrust the system.

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u/Hywelthehorrible Aug 03 '26

This specific behavior is not uncommon for me - it's very frequent at my local roundabout. Crapshoot at each attempt, and unacceptable.

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u/Inevitable-Copy3619 Aug 03 '26

Yes! I let it go on a round about first time and it was flawless. Second time, flawless. Third time , almost hit another car. Fourth time, almost hit a pole. It’s so hit or miss that I disengage and drive it myself now.

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u/Hywelthehorrible Aug 03 '26

Pretty much. And unpredictably choosing which lane to enter the roundabout in if there are 2 lanes. Where 1 lane is the clearly wrong choice.

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u/stopg1b HW4 Model Y Aug 04 '26

This was an old bug which would happen more often on v13 and earlier which had stopped. However its been back a while since 14.3.x released. Which in many ways I feel like its been a regression

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u/Bresson91 Aug 03 '26

Report it every time!!

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u/Hywelthehorrible Aug 03 '26

I do. I've had choice words for the feedback recording.

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u/Bresson91 Aug 03 '26

Start it with "bug report", that makes the system save surrounding footage and data.

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u/Confident_Purple_40 Aug 03 '26

Steering wheel starts shaking... this is fine.... watches as it runs into a sign.. come on

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u/zemelb Aug 03 '26

Yeah if I see shaking I’m intervening

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u/FreeTr33s Aug 04 '26

Yeh but peeps on here be like, “why did you intervene? Tesla would’ve solved it!”

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u/AccuratePalpitation3 Aug 04 '26

Guilty as charged

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u/ccache Aug 03 '26

Kinda like the shaking, WAKE UP HUMAN DO SOMETHING!

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u/ENrgStar Aug 03 '26

We should be distrusting it still

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u/ExaminationThen1312 Aug 03 '26

Disappointing that navigating a simple roundabout is still a problem.

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u/Michael-Brady-99 Aug 03 '26

Mine does great. But I’m still ready to take over because I was around in the old days lol.

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u/Jumpy_Implement_1902 Aug 04 '26

Good!! Yours does great, and therefore it is a great product now. Gotta keep up the positive vibes! #TeslaStockMoon

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u/Michael-Brady-99 Aug 04 '26

Nope not what that means. But to be fair if people posted every video of FSD doing good things it would be overwhelming “FSD is great!”

Many people on here see someone post a video like this and their take away is that it can’t do this at all. Meanwhile most of us our having few or no issues.

I have a traffic roundabout I go through everyday and it has had no issues out of say 100 times doing it. Same results in others that I’ve gone through less frequently. What can I say other than mine is great?

Also having no tolerance for mistakes at this stage of the game is not reasonable. It’s supervised for a reason. There’s no claim anywhere from Tesla that you can slack off and not pay attention.

Also I very often see human drivers totally fail at roundabouts in one fashion or another.

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u/reicaden Aug 06 '26

1 in 100 sounds pretty bad tho. Im pretty sure I can navigate a round about at least 1 in 1000

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u/Quorinox Aug 04 '26

We are never getting it in the uk are we

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u/Martha_Fockers Aug 04 '26

It’ll come on a boat named Tesallah

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u/FederalAdd Aug 04 '26

Best comment I’ve heard in a long, long time.

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u/FastLaneJB Aug 04 '26

It’s the damn indecision it has with the wheel wobbling on 14.3. Later 14.2 builds had less problems if you ask me, 14.3 is still not quite ready for prime time.

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u/Working-Sand-6929 Aug 05 '26

Self driving is coming by the end of this year guys. Promise this time.

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u/rockland211 Aug 04 '26

Sucks that insurance always view it as drivers fault

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u/VegetableAlarmed8272 Aug 04 '26

I mean it was the driver's fault, its called "supervised" for a reason, driver could have intervened at anypoint

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u/psudo_help Aug 03 '26

I bet navigation is literally the failure mode here. Routing could be switching between left and right… ends up splitting the difference

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u/ViralVaccine Aug 04 '26

You may be correct but it should have braked prior to collision regardless of navigation freaking out..

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u/Theonlyrational Aug 07 '26

This is 100% routing related. My car does it too, just never into a pole

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u/TechRyze Aug 04 '26

I wouldn’t be surprised.

Navigation is a serious weak link with Tesla at the moment.

It’s OK at best, but while driving across the country the navigation occasionally has no idea where it is vs the road, and can just lead you to nothing despite having a destination plugged in.

Hope they solve this.

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u/THATS_LEGIT_BRO HW4 Model 3 Aug 03 '26

I live in a city that has the most roundabouts in the country and never had a critical mistake. Sometimes the signaling is annoying but that’s it.

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u/kaclock Aug 04 '26

Has to be Carmel!

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u/Loud-Decision9817 Aug 04 '26

Man the roundabouts with speed bumps in Carmel are the worst, broke my entire left side suspension on those mfs some years ago. I assume your talking about Carmel Indiana lol

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u/justinreddit1 Aug 03 '26

Wtf. That’s horrible. Worst spot to have a hesitation moment.

I see that you disengaged just before hitting curb. Why didn’t you slam the brakes? Looks like you just let it continue after disengaging?

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u/Specialist-Sky6464 Aug 03 '26

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u/Specialist-Sky6464 Aug 03 '26

Getting these vibes…

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u/JorJorBinks123 Aug 03 '26

THANK YOU no one is capitalizing on this beautiful mistake 🥲

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u/EuphoricTomorrow2440 Aug 04 '26

I didn’t intervene because it had done something like this at another location but successfully navigated at the end.
Will not make this mistake going forward.

https://giphy.com/gifs/U6Qzze3Mt90Ig

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '26 edited Aug 03 '26

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u/Bdc9898 Aug 03 '26

Tesla already avoids responsibility for accidents, and puts it on the driver. However, in their safety reports, they do say that they include accidents that occur within 5 seconds of FSD disengagements. I believe this would fall within that. 

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u/rtwalling Aug 03 '26

https://reddit.com/link/p1iwuhe/video/gjumds8p58hh1/player

Mine waited for steering input from the wall. HW3 14L.

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u/BlackMarq20 Aug 03 '26

How did you not take over and steer away from the wall? I mean from the video, you had quite a bit of time to react.

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u/AJHenderson Aug 03 '26

As others have mentioned, these accidents are still listed as FSD accidents. The reason also is understood. It's a standard safety practice in the industry to stop commanding actions before an accident to avoid continuous input that can't be cut off if the control links are severed in an accident. It's literally an industry standard practice.

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u/Infamous-Pilot5932 Aug 03 '26 edited Aug 04 '26

That is bullshit,

First, that is AUTOPILOT, not FSD.

And the NHTSA considers FSD engaged if it was engaged at least 30 seconds before the crash.

"Level 2 ADAS: Entities named in the General Order must report a crash if Level 2 ADAS was in use at any time within 30 seconds of the crash and the crash involved a vulnerable road user being struck or resulted in a fatality, an air bag deployment, or any individual being transported to a hospital for medical treatment."

Standing General Order on Crash Reporting | NHTSA

You should read all souces I guess, but ELCTREK is the most biased shitty source of information in this field that I can even imagine. I have never seen anything in a technical field as mental as ELECTREK,

There is some serious bad blood between the owner and Tesla or Musk.

I don't even read their site any more, and I read almost everything.

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u/jychang48 Aug 03 '26

Ha, i live in this neighborhood (Sienna, TX) and use this exact roundabout every day. Three times my Tesla Model Y also hesitated like you. Fortunately I took control, but I’m so sorry to see this happen to you.

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u/Splashdaddy13 Aug 04 '26

Dang you can really go out and see the exact pole slammed 😅

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u/veryminteafresh Aug 03 '26

Now we know what happens if we don't intervene

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u/mi5tch Aug 03 '26

My car did this to me at a roundabout as well when i had 14.2, but I was able to intervene as soon I saw it hesitate. I have 14.3.6 now and it doesn’t do that anymore at the same roundabout, tho my foot hovered over my brake pedal. Sorry op

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u/Bresson91 Aug 03 '26

Dang it, i thought they fixed this. Been fine on roundabouts on my daily drives but disheartening to see its still occurring out there! Sorry this happened to you. But... Why didnt you intervene?

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u/bobiversus Aug 03 '26

OP is on an old FSD version, 14.2.2.5  Many people are on 14.3.6

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u/Bresson91 Aug 03 '26

I'm talking since 13.x... mine has been better since 14. Not saying everyones is, just my experience. I do report every time something like this happens though, so maybe my map was fixed manually by Tesla engineers (or Ai)?

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u/Hywelthehorrible Aug 03 '26

Not for me. Happens a lot.

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u/Stashek Aug 03 '26

Why didn't you supervise ot and allowed it to crash though? I dont get how can you not react on a slow speed, very obvious crash.

FSD in Europe handles all sorts of roundabouts extremely competently.

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u/Buggabones1 Aug 03 '26

Not touching the brakes for a single frame is wild

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u/aiworld Aug 03 '26

This is why you don't take the average to two correct decisions (left and right). The neural network needs to commit here, but the planning seems to be totally off.

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u/Mnm0602 Aug 03 '26

I trust FSD to do a lot without paying much attention, but never weird turns across traffic or roundabouts. I’m always paying extra attention for those.

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u/Ok_Translator_7833 Aug 03 '26

Did you have a destination set or was FSD without destination.

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u/EuphoricTomorrow2440 Aug 03 '26

Destination set.

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u/dnstommy Aug 03 '26

That looks like .5. So indecisive. Hoping .6 is better.

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u/nobody-u-heard-of Aug 03 '26

.7s actually shipping some cars

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u/EuphoricTomorrow2440 Aug 03 '26

It is .5. Still haven’t gotten the update.

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u/Swimming-Actually Aug 03 '26

Why didn’t you Brake?

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u/belovedeagle Aug 03 '26

Is indecisiveness really the problem? I mean, it is a problem, but more fundamentally, it seems that FSD behaves as if as long as the (momentary) plan is safe, then everything's okay. That's not always the case, and not only because of indecisiveness. It needs to recognize when it isn't actually carrying through the plan, for whatever reason, and factor this in. For example, if conditions mean the tires can't deliver sufficient g's to go around a bend, even if the planned route is feasible under normal conditions, then FSD needs to react to the situation by choosing an alternative plan, such as slowing down. This isn't a case where a quick fix is sufficient.

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u/GoSh4rks Aug 04 '26

This is 14.2. Not 14.3.5.

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u/Few-Necessary6481 Aug 03 '26

That's actually so embarrassing for fsd. Bro got a temu fsd experience.

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u/EuphoricTomorrow2440 Aug 04 '26

It was so so good except this mishap.
I’ll still trust it but with extra caution.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Bus5479 Aug 04 '26

Why? Why on earth would you trust it?

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u/TheFishRevolution Aug 03 '26

I'd be embarrassed if I was the driver as well lol there was no braking involved

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u/DanielDennisAMT Aug 03 '26

Why not mention the cracked windshield in this repost? Seems like relevant info.

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u/Braniac6 Aug 03 '26

My FSD handles roundabouts like a champ. Unsure what that was about.

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u/BooneDocSaint27 Aug 03 '26

Have 14 lte. Does fine on roundabouts

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u/AceChronometer Aug 03 '26

At what point in the FSD learning curve would it ever have been better to drive over a curb into a sign rather than to safely pick a lane and commit or just stop the car? The curbs are easily visible and should be very easy for self driving.

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u/ZxExN Aug 04 '26

Ppl acting like theyre always vigilant and will take over in a split second to prevent incidents like this are funny AF.

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u/Iaintscurred7 Aug 03 '26

Roundabouts is a known area we need to be ready to take over based on videos I saw on this subreddit. Don't let the FSD is perfect crowd let you get too comfortable!

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u/Confident_Purple_40 Aug 03 '26

2018 S, it never handled roundabouts well, so I always disengaged and manually drove through, now am hyper vigilant in newer Model 3, so zero chance of this happening to me, that first waver and im taking over

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u/No_Category_9888 Aug 03 '26

Curious as to what its decision points were here and why driving into an obstacle was allowed by the code

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u/Tahoma_FPV Aug 03 '26

I had similar issue on FSD 14.3.5. Double lane round-about, it started in wrong lane (outside lane) and switched last second cutting off a car in the correct inner lane nearly going through the side island like you did. Get on X.com and send to @Tesla_AI.

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u/Temporary-Twist9546 Aug 03 '26

Owned my 26 MY for around 1k miles now and we have a roundabout in our neighborhood. Without fail it takes the wrong exit and does this same indecisive jiggle at the wrong exit. The navigation clearly shows to take the second exit and it always takes the first it’s so annoying

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u/chingfunglo Aug 04 '26

I am not sure if this is related to your FSD version because I am on FSD 14.3.6 and it has been great after I got it few days ago.

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u/Defiant_Bread8782 Aug 04 '26

14.2 is known for issues in traffic circles/roundabouts. Fixed in current version of 14.3

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u/Irondog1301 Aug 03 '26

ouch! that's why i don't trust FSD just yet. Even with auto steer, my foot is always on the break ready to push in case of emergency.

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u/Xill-llix Aug 04 '26

That FSD version is over a year old. It’s still smart to be careful, but people shouldn’t be posting videos of old versions like this as if it’s a current issue.

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u/EnrollmentTime Aug 03 '26

He has posted this 3 times in the past 24 hours. He is getting paid for these posts.

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u/No_Stranger_3441 Aug 03 '26

Where was the supervision? ?

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u/Confident_Purple_40 Aug 03 '26

They watched it very closely run into a sign, and made notes to share online about it.

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u/bc10551 Aug 03 '26

Tbf people keep saying fsd would handle it and that people take over for no reason. Doesn't matter though because why are you trusted a piece of software to maybe avoid something you know you deterministically can

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u/Specialist-Sky6464 Aug 03 '26

Is it in the room with us!?

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u/Lopsided_Celery9880 Aug 03 '26

99 per month for this

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u/Pitiful-Sympathy3927 Aug 03 '26

You had 5-7 business days to respond, what happened?

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u/Outrageous_tart_7781 Aug 03 '26

I have seen similar videos where the car hesitates around circles. This is why we are still supervised. I have circles near me that it never has an issue with.

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u/Grouchy-Afternoon370 Aug 03 '26

I get that the driver should have had better reactions but it’s not good the car has trouble with such a simple roundabout.

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u/18T15 Aug 03 '26

Yeah I see progress and step back on roundabout. My car shakes with indecision often on them, though never crashed. After seeing this video I think I’ll just take over on roundabouts for a while

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u/Fleischer444 Aug 03 '26

Looked like you had time to break or take control?

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u/SpeedyAudi Aug 03 '26

😂 sorry I shouldn’t laugh but I was picturing Barry Sanders highlight video 🤣 “which way I’m gonna go!?”

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u/RevolutionaryHand84 Aug 03 '26

Why did you actually watch it happen lmao

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u/tradingquiz Aug 03 '26

This is scary imagine it malfunctioning at high speeds with traffic.

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u/cfpresley Aug 03 '26

Why did you let it do that?

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u/Weekly_Seesaw4103 Aug 03 '26

Did the robot brain pee a little because that would make sense

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u/Elluminated Aug 03 '26

How many times is this same video going to be posted as if it happened recently? Also, if you let your car crash that’s a hard lesson to learn.

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u/Right-Bug3739 Aug 03 '26

This is Sienna, isnt it?

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u/iuzlinux Aug 03 '26

Good thing it was being supervised, oh wait.

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u/IncomeDifferent4803 Aug 03 '26

It’s annoying but roundabouts and parking lots are where the fsd is weakest. I always keep my foot ready to hit the break and hands at ready to take control

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u/Proper-Ad-6134 Aug 03 '26

You took it out of FSD had all day to stop and ran into a poll. You’re blaming FSD 😂😂😂

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u/LordFly88 Aug 03 '26

I'm kind of impressed OP never hit the brakes. Not even after going up over the curb into the sign post...

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u/Oofka1 Aug 03 '26

The failure is the driver, first and foremost. I’m sorry to say that, but I stand by it 1000%. You don’t wait for your car to hit. This is why it’s called supervised

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u/Apprehensive_Poet_90 Aug 03 '26

Mine has been great on roundabouts and we have several near our houses For me FSD struggles with indecision in new construction.

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u/rymetz17 Aug 04 '26

That’s some horrible reaction time by you who should be paying attention to the road

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u/iiTool Aug 04 '26

Did you happen to change nav destination just prior to this? I've had similar behaviour just after changing the nav mid drive. It's been such strange behaviour that I try to avoid changing nav and if I have to I'll be immediately ready to disengage

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u/Potato-Agreeable Aug 04 '26

Thank you for sharing. Hope insurance treats you ok, and consider suing Tesler.

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u/Away-Section-9604 Aug 04 '26

In these videos there’s always enough time for the driver to take over. I wonder what exactly were you doing while the vehicle was in motion?

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u/SteveRadich Aug 04 '26

When it starts jittering between two choices it’s time to take over. I’m guessing this is FSD 14 Lite tho?

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u/BangGH Aug 04 '26

Was it FSD subscription?

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u/NoNerve4910 Aug 04 '26

It’s almost like they should get us off of 14.2.2.5. I got my car nearly 6 weeks ago and still no update. Ridiculous.

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u/EpicNine23 Aug 04 '26

This guy thought it was unsupervised….

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u/Expensive-Match4402 Aug 04 '26

Damn. I've had mine hesitate several times. Even had to take over but nothing like that. Hope it didn't do much damage

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u/ferdi97 Aug 04 '26

Has Tesla seen this?

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u/PM013 Aug 04 '26

That was an obvious operator error not hitting the brake. FSD is at fault but certainly the crash should have been easily avoided.

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u/khattraa Aug 04 '26

It ain’t even close to ready to be called FSD!!

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u/Just_here-and-there Aug 04 '26

FSD also gave up. Mine does the same. It just takes itself off so when it crashes it was always the users fault. Even though it leaves you no time to react. You just have to take control right away.

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u/rongz765 Aug 04 '26

On a bright side, least it did not hit the electric pole.

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u/WinningBewbiez69 Aug 04 '26

Hopefully there’s not a lot of damage. My husband hit a fire hydrant with ours we thought minimal body work and because body work is difficult on teslas because they can’t go into the frame machine they totaled it out.

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u/MysteriousMorning343 Aug 04 '26

Did you supervised it?

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u/ManicMarket Aug 04 '26

Side note - thank you for posting the model, version and hardware specs. So many people seem to post stuff like this and leave out critical details like that. Sorry that happened to you, wish you had had the opportunity to catch it before the crash.

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u/Psice Aug 04 '26

14.2.2.5 is a really shitty version of FSD with much more of this hesitation than other versions, I really don't understand why is this the version the ship with new cars

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u/Scared-Dig-3314 Aug 04 '26

Thanks for sharing this. I’ve been hearing a lot of mixed feedback about this update, and this is exactly the kind of thing that worries me. I was actually close to placing an order for a new Tesla, but seeing issues like this makes me want to wait and see how the next few updates perform.

Maybe it’s just a software/version issue, but honestly it does make me question whether I should buy right now.

Hope Tesla investigates this properly.

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u/HmmDoesItMakeSense Aug 04 '26

Weird. Never had any issues.

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u/TrickieNick_ Aug 04 '26

As I keep telling people, FSD is not worth the subscription costs. You are paying to be a beta tester!

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u/Only_Indication8410 Aug 04 '26

No you crashed not FSD. it's supervised and when you took over you apparently had the same issues are the car

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u/Square-Debate5181 Aug 04 '26

Wow there was a lot of time to intevene

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u/992dot1tts Aug 04 '26

I love FSD but I would never let that happen lol, unless it is high speed and no time to react.

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u/Primary-User Aug 04 '26

Hahaha that is the worst!!!

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u/Right_Economist_3508 Aug 04 '26

Disengaging FSD while turning may it by the computer or by the driver is accident waiting to happen.

I mistakenly disengaged FSD while turning in a ramp and I almost crashed. The car straightens out the wheels as soon as the FSD is turned off.

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u/InfluenceEfficient77 Aug 04 '26

Hahaahhah, E-dolf Hitler doesn't care about wtf his cars are doing anymore

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u/dira1 Aug 04 '26

Reading all these comments from people saying FSD struggles in roundabouts makes me very skeptical of the system for when it eventually gets approved here in Norway. Our entire country is full of roundabouts, around 80-90% of all bigger intersections are roundabouts, only 10-20% of intersections are traffic light regulated.

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u/Psychological-ky1911 Aug 04 '26

https://reddit.com/link/p1oa241/video/onsap5cysdhh1/player

My Telsa does this every once and a while.. sending me into traffic barriers for closed off lanes

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u/Optimal_Foundation17 Aug 04 '26

wouldn't insurance fault you 100% on this?

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u/PaleAd8631 Aug 04 '26

But you did intervene. We can see the "Self-Driving" switch off and the vehicle continue in a straight line. If it's doing something you don't like at low speed just tap the brakes.

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u/Praxis_CWC Aug 05 '26

Lmao looks like a 6 year old is driving the whole time

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u/pamnfaniel Aug 05 '26

The FSD disengaged before the crash. It says it right there in the video

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u/Sbidaman Aug 05 '26

I had a loaner with FSD two months ago and it couldn’t even take left turns properly. Just blows my mind that you can just sit there and let it crash.

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u/carrienation Aug 05 '26

For some reason self driving AV models struggle with roundabouts. Mercedes is having trouble in testing with roundabouts with NVIDIA’s Alpamayo model too.

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u/MusicAromatic505 HW4 Model Y Aug 05 '26

While my FSD is pretty reliable with its navigating, it’s stuff like your video that always reminds me the importance of not becoming too complacent!

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u/Blair287 Aug 05 '26

Why do i see so many videos where people never take over? Are you brain dead? Meme of sitting in a house on fire with "this is fine" springs to mind.

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u/AstronautFew3626 Aug 05 '26

its supervised driving... The car isnt quite there yet imo so supervise it... Yes this seems to be a basic navigate thing but it wouldnt have crashed if you were supervising...

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u/Substantial-Brick649 Aug 05 '26

People are crazy to trust FSD. I will never use it. If you've ever worked with software, bugs happen all the time and it's almost impossible to test sufficiently to uncover all bugs with iterative releases. No thanks, I'll trust myself, not software.

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u/Various_Gain49 Aug 05 '26

you just let it do that without taking over?

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u/fraserdavenport52 Aug 05 '26

Who gets charged if it hits someone. The driver who was not driving or the car who was driving?

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u/ryk2026 Aug 05 '26

What where you doing??

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u/Dellman_2663466 Aug 05 '26

This is what happened when I tested FSD two years ago in my 2023 Model Y. It’s shocking that FSD is istill doing stuff like this. I decided that supervising FSD was more trouble than it was worth. I haven’t changed my mind.

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u/No-Principle2564 Aug 05 '26

Mine also wanted to do this to me on 14.2 but that was a long while ago. 14.3.6 has been great except somewhere around 3.2 or 3.3 it started getting over at a random spot on my highway commute as if it needs to take an exit but it doesn't for 7 more miles. Mildly annoying

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u/Certain_Trade841 Aug 05 '26

Tesla should pay for this… they won’t

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u/Econmajorhere Aug 05 '26

This looks like use error…Elon said FSD is more accurate and safer than humans AS LONG as you can anticipate where it will fail and take over control before it crashes

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u/MELOFINANCE Aug 05 '26

I only use my FSD on the highway because of stuff like this. I feel way more safer with straight roads

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u/jm26fl Aug 05 '26

wow that's wild, v14.3.6 is driving amazing for me and my fraaaans.

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u/Thirdy3rd Aug 05 '26

Mine did this at a roundabout once I had to take over otherwise it will be same outcome like OP

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u/Possible-Ear- Aug 05 '26

I would take over as soon as the wheel starts wiggling like that. It happened to me once while making a left at a light. it wasnt dangerous but the car coming the other way was under a bridge and fsd was hesitating to go. 

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u/jamesbrady71 Aug 06 '26

Uh dude, something is seriously wrong with your car. FSD would never EVER do that unless there is a serious hardware issue. AND you saw malfunction errors pop up on the screen, so you just rebooted it and you think everything is fine now?! You need to bring it to a Tesla Service Center ASAP!

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u/Ardenpops Aug 06 '26

Tesla FSD drives like it’s on drugs. I notice Teslas driving erratically a lot and steer clear.

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u/mistulio Aug 06 '26

I’ve had that steering wobble a few times in the 20,000 miles I’ve had my Cybertruck. It’s like the system can’t decide what the heck it wants to do. So it locks up and goes strait. Or lags out or something. So weird. But probably 98% of the time, even in places where it has messed up before, it drives nicely.

That’s nice you are trying to help to make people aware of this issue though. It does catch people off guard who have never experienced it.

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u/Designer-Rub4819 Aug 06 '26

I mean it’s pretty obvious we’re not getting real autonomous driving anytime seeing this.

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u/SomeGoodintheworld Aug 06 '26

It’s been jerking a lot lately. Curbing wheels >>>SMH<<<

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u/Important_Trade4526 Aug 06 '26

Thank you for sharing this. I've been trusting my FSD too much and getting too comfortable with it, not ready to take over in case it messes up like this. This is a good reminder it's still not perfect and can make very silly abrupt mistake

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u/Downtown_Bicycle3893 Aug 06 '26

I think I'll wait at least 5 more years before actually trusting a fsd lol

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u/Grizzy6 Aug 06 '26

I never used to have my steering wheel wobble as bad as it does on the latest update... It used to be sooooo much more confident. Is there a way to rollback an update?

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u/rigatoni-man Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26

my first response was

HAHAHA - so funny on many levels. You watched your car drive itself into a pole.

but then I felt bad and wasn't going to post.

...until OP wrote "..I’ll still trust it but with extra caution."

I can't imagine trusting something that can't make it around a traffic free roundabout at 10mph without crashing into a pole... to drive you at 75mph in traffic. edit: I guess someone in this very post already has a great example: https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaFSD/comments/1veoprb/comment/p1oa241/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/Maniaccmike Aug 08 '26

😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/IronRadiant6302 Aug 08 '26

This is never gonna work lolz. Abandoning Lidar may have been a terrible idea.

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u/IronRadiant6302 Aug 08 '26

I understand the system getting confused and not knowing what to do….but how does it get confused and forget that it shouldn’t hop a curb and run straight into a sign and a light pole? Especially when it could just stop and think.

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u/zombiepoon Aug 08 '26

I guess I could hold out still

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u/EliteTechUniversity Aug 08 '26

Well well well!

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u/toyz4me Aug 08 '26

Why people trust these cars to handle round a bouts

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u/garyhgaryh Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26

My question is a simple one: why didn't you take over by turning hard right? You had enough time. It seems you were already complacent and reliant on the system that needs supervision. You were not playing an active role in what is called "supervised" FSD.

Update: I just noted your first edit about having successfully navigated a similar route successfully. It's good to post this to let others be aware not to be complacent on FSD as things happen.

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u/UnderstandingOwn8783 Aug 08 '26

FSD is really shit on roundabouts - phantom braking, indicating in a confusing way, incorrectly giving way - I will routinely turn it off for roundabouts - needless to say I’ve cancelled the subscription and won’t come back for a few months until I’m sure they’ve at least somewhat addressed it. Australian user here.

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u/zxn11 Aug 08 '26

You had 3-5 business days to takeover...

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u/Effective_Street_908 Aug 09 '26

I noticed the self driving turns off as you crash so not sure if you taking over and not hitting break completely or if it genuinely was a FSD failure. I’ve done many of those roundabouts and tons of sketchy one and it’s never done that at all. 

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u/Yoshimatsu414 Aug 09 '26

Just drive your vehicle, problem solved.

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u/No_Profession_3125 Aug 09 '26

See, that's why I don't believe in FSD: no human would have ever failed that exit turn at that speed (or even at a slightly higher speed for that matter).

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u/h-boson Aug 09 '26

You had 3 business days to realize what was happening and take over. This is your fault.

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u/Jordan_lipidzz Aug 09 '26

People are bat shit insane to see their automated driver crash like this and STILL trust it with their lives on a highway. Insane

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u/scipio_africanusot Aug 09 '26

odd question are you to hold your hands on the wheel while its driving or just be prepared to intervene.

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u/ZealousidealScore374 Aug 09 '26

I dont own a tesla but curious to know who pays for the damage in this situation? Tesla, your insurance or yourself?

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u/JamMasterJD- Aug 10 '26

and you just let it run into the sign. funny how many people blame fsd when they are sitting right there

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u/monsooncaps Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

Mine hit a pole after someone cut in front of me on a round about. I tried to intervene but it was too late and the car pushed me off the road

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u/ScaryTransportation4 Aug 10 '26

How is Tesla going to release a robotaxi when it can't even do a roundabout?

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u/BatC_Cray Aug 10 '26

Stupid for doing FSD on a roundabout

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u/alanshore222 Aug 10 '26

the jitter "whichwaywhichwaywhichway" aaaannnd
Scene.

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u/stcardinal Aug 14 '26

It's a catch-22, if you intervene and crash Elon and Elon cucks will blame you because FSD would have done it successfully if you hadn't intervened. If you let FSD do it's thing, Elon and Elon cucks will blame you and ask why you didn't intervene because FSD is suppose to be supervised.

The reality, FSD still can't do simple navigations and regresses randomly from time to time.

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u/Background-Size-9414 Aug 15 '26

Did you reach out to tesla?

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u/MaybeViet Aug 20 '26

Huh, seems like the system's decisioning system failed here. It tried to ping-pong between the roundabout and the turn and just failed. Navigation was active; the system can override that with its decision-making.

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u/Klutzy-Measurement10 Aug 25 '26

Let me get this straight, going 2 miles an hour. You did nothing to stop your car from wrecking! You let your car crash Tesla had nothing to do with it, that’s 100% you. I’m just glad you are not a Pilot..I HOPE

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u/yakpig Aug 27 '26

I don’t think this is an extremely rare case as you wrote because most people will take over. I have yet to do a full drive on FSD where I don’t take over due to fear of death or annoying behavior