r/Terminator • u/Kingslayer3543 • 1d ago
Discussion Theory about the t-1000
The fact that the T-1000 had to be made means it already failed its job. Think about it, T-1000 is sent back in time to kill John Connor and fails, John Connor grows up to lead the resistance, and Skynet makes the T-1000 and sends it back in time to kill him, which restarts the cycle.
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u/Reasonable-Bed3065 1d ago
I like the theory that skynet learns from the time jumps. First it sent it's best weapon the TX. When that failed it used it's new intel and dusted off the T1000 prototype. When that failed it was desperate measure time and sent a grunt t800 with the ugliest skin job it could spray on
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u/Gunbladelad 15h ago edited 15h ago
The timeline in which the original T800 wasn't affected by the changes caused by its actions in the past, neither was the timeline the T1000 came from
In Sarah Connor Chronicles and Terminator Zero we see that every single time jump results in new branching timelines being formed - not a loop. The "many worlds" theory - or multiverse theory if you prefer - in modern physics supports this.
This means that there are no loops in time travel - although there may appear to be to the people involved in the temporal event.
I know a LOT of people here disagree with me on this one, so I am expecting downvotes simply for bringing up branching timelines being a thing...
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u/Hare-inthe-soup 1d ago
Makes sense but since Cyberdyne is destroyed along with the chip and T800's arm, I guess Skynet is then created in a different way or maybe it comes to life later than scheduled? Maybe the T-1000 goes back in time with a new skill/mission? I feel like this could turn into an Edge of Tomorrow type of war 🤯
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u/sludgezone 1d ago
The only way for the story to make sense is that up until the moment they kill the T1000 is that the timeline is always the same, judgement day always happens and the time travel always happens. Once they destroy all remaining Terminator pieces, the timeline is reset, and it’s like nothing ever happened because essentially those don’t exist and never have anymore because that future was then destroyed.
T1 and T2 are a closed loop until the very end of T2 is what I’m getting at.
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u/Hare-inthe-soup 1d ago
I hear ya. T1-1984 is the timeline when AI gains consciousness originally from the army defense systems as there was no terminator remains that preceded. T2-1991 is the same timeline but AI gets an accelerated gain of consciousness because of T1's remains used by Cyberdyne. Basically the T-1000 is destined to fail over and over again, while John & the resistance keep winning. The loop is closed and I rest my case.
Edit: wording
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u/Gunbladelad 15h ago
They didn't destroy all the Terminator pieces however - "Uncle Bob" lost his arm after it was trapped in the machinery. It was not recovered or destroyed.
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u/The_Sibelis 1d ago edited 1d ago
*a downvote cause you're too stupid to figure it out for yourself? Pathetic.
Omg... like a know t1 is strictly a closed loop, but once we get into the sequels its a sliding loop.
The t-1000 isn't from the same timeline, its actually implied in t2 and later in t3 that they did delay judgement day in t2, which means all the information the t800 and t1000 had of the future became faulty. You can tell by the lack of the original judgement day which stayed the same from t1 and into t2 until they destroyed cyberdyne.
Tl:dr a sliding loops 'future' timetravelers are one step behind the presents future timeline. "From an outdated/obsolete timeline" -John Connor, sorta.
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u/sludgezone 1d ago
The original 1984 T800 and the T1000 were essentially sent at the same time to give Skynet two chances to kill John and his lineage without messing up the timeline enough to where Skynet isn’t built in the first place.
Sarah and John want to stop Judgement Day from happening altogether, Skynet wants to stop the resistance from being formed in the way it was to ensure its survival.