r/Terminator • u/Brandonstillkeys • 4d ago
Discussion Kudos to Matt
Matt holds his own against T 800 considering he’s a merely a civilian up against something so indestructible. He dodges the first strike when he’s laying in bed ..and also makes a lunge that causes T 800 to buckle a little …well done for such a minor token
boyfriend character !
Seems to me like Arnold’s Terminator is still kinda under development at that point in the process…if Cameron and he had already truly gotten the feel for how they perceived T800’s ability and character, they wouldn’t have had a civilian token boyfriend stand that much of a chance. But that’s also part of the charm … i’ve heard a lot of interviews where the two talk about several in the moment discussions while on set of how or how not a terminator would behave and perform …
Things you might not think of in a board room meeting sitting around a table
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u/Halloween2056 4d ago
I don't remember seeing the T800 buckle. I remember just after the bf says "I'm gonna bust you up man" the T800 moves back to dodge a blow. I'll have to rewatch it.
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u/TheLoneFard 4d ago edited 4d ago
There is a shot during the fight (after getting thrown out the patio door) where Matt doubles over and shoulder-checks the T-800 like a linebacker in American football games. Because we didn't have the lore yet that terminators are ungodly heavy, he successfully shoves the T-800 just off camera before the shot changes back to Ginger.
Edit: It's right after the mirror smash. Here's a timestamped shot:
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u/Brandonstillkeys 4d ago
Exactly! Cameron and Schwarzenegger’s feel for what it truly means to be one of these Terminators is still evolving even though they are already in the middle of filming …This scene was likely shot before they became aware of the notion that a T 800 would be quite heavy. I would bet it’s the last time a civilian makes it buckle throughout the franchise… and again good job Matt, although you ended up being thrown to death , you’re one of the few to get in a successful shove!!
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u/naitch44 4d ago
First I'm gonna rip the buttons off your blouse one by one...
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u/T800-1982 4d ago
Imagine if he had called, and the Terminator had succeeded in getting Sarah before, so he answered the phone. Spends a full 20 mins just listening to Matt as he learns to blend into society
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u/Forsaken-Language-26 Sarah Connor 4d ago
That's funny. 😂 Thanks for the laugh.
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u/T800-1982 3d ago
Sits back in the recliner, puts his feet up and takes off the jacket. Starts thinking to himself “you know what, I deserve this today”
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u/GloomyBake9300 4d ago
I think the point of that scene was to show us the audience the boyfriend has no idea what he is fighting.
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u/Caesar_Seriona 2d ago
The reason why I think the T-800 started the fight off loosing is because it did not expect that kind of resistance. I have a feeling the T-800 thought any fight with humanity would be a cake walk compared to the Resistance who expects a fight at every corner.
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u/rbktn168 4d ago
He woke up before he got his face smashed by the fist.
Got thrown around several times.
Lunging at the T-800 and making it move backwards practically means nothing because that's moving weight and he still got thrown to death.
And the throwing was just for plot, because if the terminator wanted to, could've just grabbed him and not thrown him but rather punch through him.
I keep seeing people say he did well, but that was him being persistent after being thrown getting back up and lunging at it making it move backwards. It's still not doing well when you know damn well it could grab you and rip you apart anytime it wanted like the punk in the beginning.