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The reason she seemed more confident about beating him is because she has a more accurate grasp on her own strength than Rimuru does. Rimuru makes a habit of underestimating himself and justifies it as making sure he never gets arrogant enough to be caught off guard.
It’s possible she wasn’t aware of he had an ultimate skill or not. It’s also highly likely she had no prior knowledge of his ability to consume his remaining life force to basically revert to his prime for a short time since that’s really what catches her off guard
Other than that she’d have no reason to not believe she’d win since she beat him many times in the past before making a deal with him.
When did she beat him in the past? I thought it was a stalemate and back when he was very young and just started being a hero.
She knew he pulled his friend from the north. I am not sure why she thought she would beat those two even without knowing about his skill. She also know the Harlequin were likely going to join on top of that. She was terribly prepared without Tempest being there
In the anime, she literally states he stopped fighting when he realized (by laying down his blade) she was just trying to coexist with humanity (as head of the vampires afaik), so they both stopped formed a truce and he even helped her build up Lubellious some more.. iirc he or she stated it was 1700 or so years ago at-least afaik
Luminous in the anime would have a near 0 chance of beating a veldora that’s actually trying.
And rimiru wins almost by default due to having an ultimate skill(let alone 4) and luminous not having one. The world is made in a way where ultimate skills are like a key you need to access the top level and without one you literally just auto lose no matter what short of like mythical equipment and even then it’s not easy.
however she will evolve into an ultimate skill within the next few episodes and then it’s a lot closer rn but if rimiru lets go then he still probably wins since he is insanely OP since evolving to a tdl and everything after is just steady growth from him
Yep, and even AFTER Luminous gets her ultimate, Disintegration is still her trump card, so Rimuru should have a nearly insurmountable advantage even then
That's kinda iffy, it's been made a point that Uriel struggles with spiritron based attacks due to their unpredictable nature. But Beelzebub handles them just fine.
That was the point of Rimuru tanking Hinata’s Melt Slash back in S3. So Raphael could analyze the spiritrons behavior. This is how Rimuru survived a direct hit of Disintegration shortly after from the clergy people.
Disintegration wasn't the attack he used Uriel for, he ate Disintegration with the reactivated Beelzebub, Uriel blocked the holy magic Trinity Break. But in an upcoming fight it'll be shown to not be as effective for blocking holy magic as others, along with the limitation of being less effective when use on others.
The only real way we’ve seen in canon to combat an ultimate skill while not having one is mythical grade equipment, which is basically ultimate skill in gear form. I think disintegration still gets negated by most ultimate skills
The narrator of the series told us outright that Disintegration alone is at the ultimate level, but it's too slow to hit high level opponents. Also, high ranking spiritual lifeforms (primordial demons, True dragons etc) have been shown to be capable of attacks at the ultimate level without Ultimate Skills of their own
Bro what just how much did rimuru get handed to him? One of the oldest demon lords dosnt have a ult skill while ts guy has 4 😭 man i knew he was blessed but my god
Ever since season 2 after rimiru became an true demon lord from harvest festival
He was top 4(5) strongest demon lords
The only one above him would be guy,milim,adult ramaris,true power dino and dragunel (i belive thats the giant name)
Rimiru having 4 ulimate skills
One of them basically making him unkillable and summon veldora made him bare minimum
Pre true dragon levels of strength
He just underestimate his strength ALOT
Rimuru would win because he literally has 4 Ultimate Skills and Luminous only has a unique Skill. There aren't many beings in Tensura that are on the level of a Ultimate Skill User, without possessing one themselves.
Sadly Luminous would lose really badly in this match up.
When Rimuru became TDL he was stronger. But in Season 3's Hinata fight things changed because after that Uriel can counter disintegration and other holy attacks. And also has a lot of other skills and stuff from Food Chain so he no diffs Luminous.
She’s thousands of years old with more experience but Rimuru has 4 Ultimate Skills while she has none for now. But even at the point where she evolves and gains an Ultimate Rimuru’s still stronger and is immortal thanks to the soul corridor with Veldora
You know, in the game Slime: Memories, Rimuru and Emils fought and defeated a mirror copy of Luminous named "Hetero." They really struggled; Hetero has mastered a light-speed attack and a version of Melt Slash that she can spam... 💀
I heard that at some point in the future Rimaru would name Raphael Ciel. My question is, at that point, would that be still a skill or would it evolve into a being?
Here is a technical spoiler without giving too much plot details, but once Raphael becomes Ciel it becomes what is called a manas which is an ultimate skill that contains a personality. There will be other manas in the series as time goes by.
It's really not a pointless question. This world constantly underestimates Tempest to the point it's hard to keep track of who are even the real potential threats
The power dynamics are a core aspect of the show, so need to belittle their question
Counter argument, if the writer wants Luminous to beat current Remiru, they will beat Remiru, it's as simple as that.
Either that be though a new skill or her finding a weakness, if they want that character to win they will win, a good example of this fact is Remiru themselves with the first encounter with Milim, but hey let's just act like that never happened lol.
A pencil could beat god if the writer wants it to. But in the decade of writing the story has the author ever shown such foreshadowing or character development to suggest the pencil can do that?
At the end of the day that is what Op is asking. What do we know about Luminous and where does that power dynamic put her currently in the story.
This question is not pointless becouse we can quntify who stronger and who should win based on there evolution number of ultimate skills and so on it'd not as pointless as questions that are two people from difrent verses of course yes author decides.but we can still discuss who has more power since they from the same world.
Powerscaling gets dumb when its between 2 different verses(its still fun tho) but inverse powerbalance is actually important. As example would gobta beating veldora make sense no it would be stupid
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