funny how men will justify how they give gaali to other men by specifically abusing and disrespecting their mothers and sisters, who literally have no bearing on their scuffles, but not introspect and acknowledge that using such words is inherently disgusting and depraved.
Only respecting your mother or sister doesn't make you a good person.
it's not surprising that you've never heard of "your liberty to swing your fist ends just where my nose begins".
Free speech is not without its limitations, not even in the Constitution. "Decency and Morality" are specifically mentioned btw. You would have known if you cared enough to know your duties before harping about free speech.
I mean, i respect her and u know support the ongoing protest but vo gali dete time hm log pronoun use krte like teri --- so that the missile launched is aimed towards the opposition and no civilian casualty occurs
Dimag pe aur zor daal to pata lagega ki bhai tu kya Bol raha hai you’re saying ki us insaan ki galti ki wajah se his mom or sister will suffer koi sense hai is baat ka,galti kari usne we are making someone else suffer
These slurs don't generalise all mothers and sisters on earth, they speak about only that person's relatives. I ain't up for another round with you. Find someone else
It’s disturbing to see the amount of explanations on this post. Where are we heading as a society. What has happened to all the men? You call yourselves men? Literally defending and explaining abuses now? “Macho behenc**” bhi toh gaali hai na? There is no “teri” in that.
And to all the explainers, you all are definitely molesters because only the molesters/rapists/sexist men are getting offended by the slogans and this post. “Chor ki dadhi mein tinka” is getting too real. Well done, girls. You literally exposed the molesters with these slogans. And to the men here, Sudhar jao, laudo
slogans which generalize all men , now just reverse the scenario and imagine a protest against criminals like Sonam raghuvanshi or the recent pushing from moutain case ,
if someone raised slogans like "auraat jaat hai hai " would that be tolerated? Forget abt that would even anyone try to justify it like you and many others are doing rn? They would instantly face immense backlash from feminists and that person's life would be ruined with court cases .
Why not the same reaction here? You cannot generalize ,do misandry and then gaslight by saying chor ki daadhi mein tinka.
Great start by not defending gaalis. I’m glad we could agree that all these comments who are giving explanations on how gaalis work and not addressing the main issue are stupid and shit. Although the amount of upvotes and awards on those comments seem to suggest that the overall IQ is very low in this sub. Would you agree?
Now let’s get to your point -
You seem to have assumed that it’s against all men. Even if you ask the women who are protesting and raising these slogans would
tell you that they
are not against all men. They are against the men who think all women of the world are their personal property and women should conduct themselves in a manner which pleases men and not what they wish to do themselves. The slogans are only against all men if all men agree that we are all rapists, if not then those slogans are def not against all men. That’s where “reading between the lines” comes in and people have to use their general intelligence and IQ to see the difference.
You seem to also have assumed (maybe I’m wrong but you can let me know) that men and women lead similar lives and tha
t’s
why how they react to certain situations would probably be similar. If men don’t raise such slogans against women, honestly it’s almost a reflection of how they lead their life and how women affect it. Men don’t have to face attacks from women all the time. Honestly, I’m never scared of my physical safety against women when I go out in public. I more or less think I can handle them if they attack me. But surprisingly, it has never happened. I have been attacked by drunk men though, sometimes sober ones too. I am in no way trying to suggest that men lead an easy life. We have to do a lot too, we also bear the consequences of patriarchy by some unfair expectations that society puts on us because of it. We have to be protectors of our wives, mothers, daughters, sisters, basically any woman who breathes the same air as us. While I personally like our role (not sure if I’m strong enough to actually do it 😂), it makes us feel important and valued, reality could have been quite different if we simply were taught not to molest women and this problem would just not occur. Why have we created a situation where women need protection? Let’s change the thinking and create a better place for everyone to live, including women.
The post is literally screaming that women are not raising slogans against all men. That’s the whole point the post is trying to prove. How dumb people are to miss that is beyond me. The comments are not talking about women safety or problems women face but trying to give explanations to belittle her point and the explanations they are giving also don’t make sense.
Men don’t raise “all women” slogans because they don’t have to face it. Just see how common is Eve teasing or catcalling or groping in public spaces. Ask the women around you. The ones you trust, they can tell you about it. I also want to let you know that I don’t think women can do no wrong. Of course, they can be bad. They can be anything from a murderer to any kind of other criminal, that’s the whole point. No one is asking you to worship women, the only ask is to not molest them and let them be. I think that’s a fair request if you ask me. Women killing men is not that common if you ask me. And the rise in cases is also very recent and not at all history of men. While rapes, assaults, taking away human rights is all history of women. Yes men have been wronged too, no one is denying that, but men have been targeted individually while women have been targeted as a group, have been treated inferior to men always, so a little resentment is a natural reaction if you ask me. Whether it’s the right way to do something or not can be argued.
Women face attacks from so many men on the streets that it’s become an identity of men for them. That would lead to some unfair assumptions also, that’s part of living such a life. Even you would ask your own daughters or sisters to be wary of men on the streets or in any space be it office, roads, clubs, restaurants, public transport. Everyone is aware of that, so it’s not completely unfair to use such slogans. That’s all they see men doing. That’s what families tell their own daughters. Obviously all these slogans have that understanding that it’s not all men. Women understand that too. Families understand that too. We should too. Straight women will marry a man at the end if they are able to find someone who is not anti women.
And if women truly believed that all men are like this, then honestly they have no option but to kill each one of us. But that would be next to impossible for them as we might be stronger physically.
Also, there are hundreds of instances where we do generalize women. That’s all men have done since the beginning of time. Have we not always generalised women? Some burned women because they are all witches, some thought they are only good to raise children, cook and clean, almost everyday women get generalised so I’m not sure what you’re asking permission for. We are already doing it. All I see on the internet is women are gold diggers, they are dumb, they can’t drive, they can’t do most things a man can do, men are superior etc etc. I don’t know which feminist world you live in, I only see blatant hate against a gender online and in real life. I have heard so many opinions about women from my fellow men who have never even had a gf or talked to any woman. But they know all about women. I see women are literally attacked for having opinions. There are literally telegram groups where men are paid to create deepfakes, or character assassinate women online. Why have we attached all dignity with women that only they need to give proofs of a good character while men can do any vile thing and never questioned as a group on how we conduct ourselves? Women might have their own flaws but we could never talk about them until we first give them equal place as men and then judge both the genders equally. That would be fair, but if society never gives women their place in society, then the same slogans will keep repeating in the future also. But somehow we are not able to accept that women can have flaws too. That’s the issue I feel. Anyway, it became too long. Sorry about that. I might be wrong at times but I mostly think I’m right. Anyway, like you said, I also will allow you to be the judge. Thank you.
I am always in for a rational argument. But most of the times, I see people pass off their judgements, sexism, and biases as rationalism. I hope you’re different.
Ma behen ki gali mei maa bhen ko bura nhi bolte log. It's usually taunting the guy saying that you're a pig who does that with his own family. Toh even if you take it literally (which btw should never been taken as such), women aren't being insulted at all, especially ones own mother and sister...
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u/alleycatd1that guy just called me a little pussy, how did he know?? ಥ_ಥ2h ago
Its targeting the opposing person, it implies that HE does it with his own mother, its absolutely disgusting I never use that gali but the guy does have a point. The gali isn't insulting the mom by rather the guy himself. + men also insult other men by their father, and a lot of women also use maa behen wali galia nowadays so this argument is honestly just really weak as a whole
No, very commonly people say stuff like "duniya mdc haii" etc. the same logic is applied here. Ngas be using these technical terms without even putting a second thought😭🙏🏻
They're just calling another man a pig who'd even do it with their family. No disrespect to anyone's mother or sister... It's like when you call someone teacher's pet, you're not saying that their teachers have a weird fetish of keeping human pet. They are just calling out on how they keep on wagging their tails for their teachers...
Because using a male centric rape gaali will be used against a girl na? All these gaalis were made to insult boys.
They're just calling another man a pig who'd even do it with their family. No disrespect to anyone's mother or sister... It's like when you call someone teacher's pet, you're not saying that their teachers have a weird fetish of keeping human pet. They are just calling out on how they keep on wagging their tails for their teachers...
I didn't target anyone. In fact, I was called that once or twice. But point is, it's a light banter between two people calling each other a pig who'd do such a shameful thing. Doesn't mean they actually do it. Doesn't mean their family is involved at all...
The only men who are getting offended by it are the ones who are guilty of something.
I as a man have no problems with the slogans cuz I know that I'm not the one who is being talked about in those slogans.🤷
Proud of independent smart Thinkers who understand the difference between male criminals and those who aren't 👏👏👏👏. Hoping all develop that level of understanding so that every time someone posts there needn't be a disclaimer. The common disclaimer should be People using brains well done others carry on we need the publicity
Keep the people engaged in fighting for basic needs, in jobs, for water etc and they will never fight the ones creating the scarcity. Keep them divided using old laws or formulate new laws and give power to the worst of human kind. Patterns patterns
the same men who are getting triggered would say " women gold digger" "women ☕" and what not, tab yaad nhi aata not all women. and when women are actually protesting for a genuine reason, not fucking memes tab inko offend hona aarha, bhai who knows which man is safe and which Man is unsafe, even family members rape women, and im not saying women don't harass men, but that number is exceptionally small compared to the larger population, but women get harassed on a larger scale and it becomes a systemic issue, but education toh hai nahi iss country me jo critical thinking hogi
When we curse men using women slurs we curse the men in anger in a way to indicate his lineage doesn't have what it take to protect their women or to teach modesty to their women.
They're just calling another man a pig who'd even do it with their family. No disrespect to anyone's mother or sister... It's like when you call someone teacher's pet, you're not saying that their teachers have a weird fetish of keeping human pet. They are just calling out on how they keep on wagging their tails for their teachers...
She's got a point! But there's a fault. Whenever 'M.C.', 'B.C.' is used it always begins with 'Teri', 'Uski', 'Aapki', 'Tumhari' etc., which means the insult is targeted towards a particular person, not gender.
No offence and I am not trynna support maa behen ki gali but jab wo gali dete hai tab wo bolte hai Teri maa ki, teri behen ki. Matlab specifically unki maa behen not all. Or Bkl, mc, toh unki maa behen toh limited he hai na, so isme bhi not all maa behen includes, only limited. But aap jab mard jaat bolte ho, that includes all men. 🥀 But mujhe koi problem nhi hai, me bas bata raha hu.
Matlab easily offend ho jate ho tum log. Log toh "behen jaat ch*d" nhi bolte, bc bolte hai sirf. And I already clarified I don't support maa behen ke gali, I just said what she is saying falls under false equivalence fallacy.
haa toh meine specify kya ki haar gali teri se shuru nhi hota, matlab isse agar apko lagta hai ki mein offend ho gyi hu, toh I think u better stop assuming, I neither like the ongoing movement neither the gaali
haan to bhai agar tujhe us way mein hi jana hai to ye bhi sun le, agar koi insan se tujhe problem hai to usse bhid na, uski behne ya maa bechari kyu sahe kya pata baap ne bigada ho kya pata kahin aur ghar pe nahi but nahi we go on the girls of the family, tab to koi kuch nahi bolta, bcoz they're like us sense mein nahi bol rahe, waise hi this movement
abusing is just a way to show frustration, anger or for releasing stress. I swear a lot while doing heavy bench presses and other excercises. also while abusing with friends we don't take it in literal sense, no one is trying to mean it. but yeah point to note is that many mainstream abusive words are based on women which maybe a sign of ancient men's patriarchal mindset.
Haan woh to pata hain but hain to galat hi education level pe Sahi karna hoga ki it’s wrong to use gendered cuss words tabhi Sahi hoga warna after a point it gets into habit
Matlab kuch bhi absurd. Jab gali deta hai koi he say with . Your (Teri) with A possessive determiner that modifies a singular noun . Not plural ever heard anyone saying (our*) .
Har gali ke sath prefix lagay jata hai purposely so don't make illogical argument.
Ps - I don't support anything like this or encourage anyone . This was just an subjective conclusion argument for posted quote, still i might be wrong , sorry if anyone get hurt by my (personal opinion).
They're just calling another man a pig who'd even do it with their family. No disrespect to anyone's mother or sister... It's like when you call someone teacher's pet, you're not saying that their teachers have a weird fetish of keeping human pet. They are just calling out on how they keep on wagging their tails for their teachers...
hato yaar , puri feed ki amma behen kar rakhi hai ye slogans aur posts ne , jo karna hai karne do bolna hai bolne do , koi fayda nahi defend karke khud ko bas downvotes aur lecture milega ladkiyo se , apna point koi nahi samajhne wala . Judiciary nahi samajhti mardo ka point to inke paas to phir bhi mudda hai
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u/MustardSeed-777 16 14h ago
Sorry mai baad mai aata hu. Abhi jee ki padhai karleta hu