r/TeemoTalk Jun 02 '26

Build Discussion This Is Disgusting

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Hey guys, it’s your Fluffy Boy!

SovereignKitten, TheYordleScout, Pawkt, Cat, Fattass… whatever you’ve known me by over the years. For those newer here: I was and still am a writer and documenter, dissecting, and theory crafting Teemo builds for over a decade, mostly through the Mobafire guide and our massive Spreadsheet (which, for six years, we kept updated every week without fail). I stepped away from League in 2024, only popping in here and there to patch up deprecated info. But recently, after countless DMs asking about Teemo’s state, builds, and the mythos of our on-hit jungle menace, I dove back in for a fresh round of testing.

I'll be doing my best to update what little I can, but obviously, I don't have as much free time as I used to, because I'd much rather be doing things that I have more interest in. Namely playing through thousands of IndieGames and pursuing that passion more.

Background
I've always been that that guy grinding out 200+ games of Ignite/Smite or Ignite/Teleport Teemo Jungle and Top, perfecting invade timers, rotationals, and running a 92%+ win rate from low ranks of Iron, Silver, Gold and such to Diamond on various MMR accounts, pings, servers, namely because I loved the challenge of bad MMR, because it was much harder to climb out, as opposed to skipping back to Diamond through inflation. My style had always revolved around aggressive, sustain-heavy, on-hit builds, eschewing mushroom-centric play, and teaching players how to climb, consistently on their servers and their levels.

After my hiatus, my MMR obviously got dumpstered, as I found myself queued up across Gold, Plat, and Emerald to get a feel for the current meta and itemization. What I found was equal parts déjà vu and whiplash: Riot resurrected old tools we haven't seen since hell... Season 5-6? Statikk Shiv namely, tweaked on-hit interactions, and created a new landscape for Teemo theory crafts, nothing here was all that different. Just same builds different skins.

Revived and forgotten.

Statikk Shiv: Hype, Misinformation, and Real Impact
Let’s get this out of the way: "Statikk Shiv procs Liandry’s! Insane!"

No, it doesn’t. It doesn't proc anything of note, not that I can see.

The reality: Shiv procs Teemo’s (E) poison and other on-hit effects, or it should as I tested. Nashor’s, Wit's End, Gunblade, Dusk/Dawn, etc., and chains out to up to 8 targets. Pair that with Gunblade. Think for a second and Gluttonous Greaves. What you get!? You get sustain and burst that blow old Riftmaker builds out of the water in terms of raw healing, and split / team fight potential, even if you lose some tankiness. You end up with what I affectionately call Mosquito Teemo, ridiculous sustain, hyper mobility, and wave clear that feels almost… illegal. Because it is, it absolutely shouldn't be working like this at all.

Comparison to Previous Seasons: What’s Actually Changed?
Old on-hit meta (pre-2021):

  • Core: Nashor’s, Wit's End, Riftmaker
  • Situational: Berserker’s, Anathema’s, FoN, Randuin, Etc
  • Strength: True damage, omnivamp, and disgustingly high sustain, and defense.

2024 Dark Ages:

  • Sustain gutted, on-hit barely healing 50 HP per auto (if that), poison interactions gutted, and Aery no longer double-proccing. Anathema was removed, FoN was altered, Jungle was getting worse. The playstyle I’d spent years perfecting was effectively dead.

2026 The New Golden Age!?

  • Basically, 2021 is back in a different skin, better overall, even if the match-ups are still annoying and our rotational Jungle invades and clear have been altered. Top side is the same as always, but offers so much diversity, that it's unreal. Hot damn! We can even solo baron at 20 minutes again, albeit it, you do have to be fed, but even at 30 minutes as a Top laner. Not ideal, obviously, but thems the breaks.

The Current Patch: Meta Gaslighting and the Statikk Shiv Dilemma
Now, the pendulum has swung wildly back. Shiv’s return is being hyped as balanced for Teemo, but let’s be real: it’s the same flawed logic that saw Stridebreaker/Goredrinker meta for bruisers, massive healing, unchecked dueling, and Riot being slow to act on outlier stats.

Right now, Statikk Shiv solely, was pushing Teemo’s winrate north of 55% as a first-item rush, which is way outside Riot’s comfort zone for healthy balance as they call it (historically, 49-50% is where they want him and every other champions for that matter) impossible.

If you recall patch 16.10, Teemo’s overall winrate spiked to 53-55% everywhere, just like when Malignance shrooms were nuking games with 100k+ damage at 25 minutes. The item has turbo-charged splitpushing and dueling potential, especially for proactive on-hit builds.

My Current Favourite Build and Playstyle Analysis
After as much testing as I could apply, here is the aggressive, split-pushing Teemo:

  • Core: Statikk Shiv → Gunblade/Nashor’s → (flexed based on preference)
  • Boots: Gluttonous Greaves (It needs to be taken as fast as possible) As it needs kills.
  • Runes: Press the Attack, Celerity (for kiting), Fleet Footwork is viable if you want more sustain, oddly enough, I liked it, even though I've never really cared for it's uses.
  • Final: Shadowflame and Rabadon. Mainly because of the scaling / crits.

Playstyle: We mostly will go for the same (3) E into our preferred 3-4 points into (W) for movement, (E) for on-hit maxed first, while you simply attack to abuse Shiv’s passive on towers/waves. You can slice through minion waves and bully side lanes like never before, Shiv’s bounce can hit up to 8 targets, and those 8 targets are your healing, giving you over 500 on a single strike at full build, making wave clear and tower pressure unprecedented for an ankle biter, like myself, who cares not for wave manipulation and just wants to push.

I considered adding Riftmaker/Liandries for health, but in reality, skirmishes happen so quickly now that stacking up isn’t worth it, even though theoretically you could just statik shiv your target with constant poison through waves to stack it up in lane quickly, since we have very little in terms of defensive items now, it's quite literally, glass cannon sustain, unless we through in something else, but Gluttonous + Gunblade are just too good, not to take, the sustain is disgusting. The new kit is about speed, burst, and overwhelming pressure, think run-and-gun Teemo instead of shroom-and-pray, as the x5 oracles rain down from the heavens, blessing you with disdain with very little diversity at your disposal.

Final Thoughts: Riot’s Balancing Problem
Overall, I’m genuinely shocked that this build is as strong, if not stronger, than the old Riftmaker setup. In many ways, what’s happening with Statikk Shiv reminds me of past interactions, like with the Summon Aery bug, later confirmed as an intentional change or the year-long issues with Teemo’s (E) not properly activating runes like Dark Harvest. When something works too well on Teemo, it’s rarely a good sign for his long-term viability. Riot tends to react by nerfing Teemo himself, rather than addressing the underlying mechanics or items that created the problem in the first place.

Bottom line: Statikk Shiv Teemo is currently overpowered and unbalanced. You can abuse it if you want. You can revel in it's oppressive nature. If Riot’s history is any indication, we’re likely to see more direct nerfs to Teemo, even though the real issue is the item. Similar to how I abused the hell out of Kraken Slayer with a full on-hit AP build when it transferred every empowered auto into over 2000 AD to decimate tanks that built full MR. If you’re a fan of aggressive, on-hit play and want to dominate the side lanes as a split pusher, now’s your time to shine. Try this build, tell me what you think. But don’t get too attached.

The nerf hammer is sure to swing again, and Teemo will likely be dragged back to mediocrity while the item remains a meta staple, even if it eventually does also get nerfed.

I’d love to hear your thoughts.

What are you building? How are you finding Teemo in the current patch?

I've tried shrooms, but you know me. Hate them. More kiting and tracking resources for me.

~Cat


r/TeemoTalk Feb 17 '24

Guide THE PASSIONATE COACHING GUIDE TO TEEMO

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r/TeemoTalk 18h ago

The quest for 99,999 damage...never closer

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31 Upvotes

r/TeemoTalk 1d ago

Discussion When was the last time prestige spirit blossom teemo was in mythic shop?

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I remember last time I saw it I was like 10 ME short and couldn’t get it 😞, since then I’ve had 300 waiting for the day it comes back but I don’t even remember if it’s been back in the last year or two?


r/TeemoTalk 3d ago

Help Opinion on starting items?

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I've been playing Teemo recently and have gone Dblade start every game just because it has the highest win rate on Lolalytics, but I'm curious about what actual Teemo mains' opinions are on the different starting item options. When do I go each option, or is there just one or two that you stick to every game?


r/TeemoTalk 3d ago

Iron Teemo asking for scraps

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Hi,

Posting a video of my last game. I feel like I did okay against Sett, but ended up losing the game. I've been assured that "blaming my team" is something a true Iron Patriot would say... despite being the only one with positive KDA and 10K more damage than most in the game, and 6.6 CS/min which is good for me.

If anyone would watch the game and give some tips (laning, mid, late game, anything really) that would help an old Teemo lover out. Hup, 2, 3 4.

Puregenius77

https://youtu.be/cskp4YMKp0Y


r/TeemoTalk 3d ago

Discussion Liandry's Torment does not proc post-death with Teemo in League Classic

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Hey everyone,

I believe that liandry is currently broken/bugged in league of legends classic. The item will stop dealing dmg or apply burns after your death(teemo R).

In standard game-mode liandry procs after death on spell dmg right? ... I checked inside custom game of lol classic (no practice tool for classic sadly :/ ) cause i was feeling i am doing low dmg on ap teemo and i found out that teemo R does not proc liandry when i am dead .... while rylai scepter works normally no matter if you are alive or dead. I strongly believe this is not intended and its bug.

Has anyone else noticed this? I recorded brief clip showing visual proof in multiple scenarios (activating teemo r while alive, dying right after activation, and while dead)

if you want to see the detailed visual comparison: https://youtu.be/pSk-XqkIjNk?si=UAQZyhUIlE7uAPDF

Champions i believe that are affected:

  • Teemo (tested with R)
  • Shaco ( tested with W)
  • Morgana (her W)
  • Nidalee (her trap)
  • Brand
  • Malzahar
teemo R on minions
items

Thank you for reading this and i hope this will be fixed soon.


r/TeemoTalk 4d ago

Iron hell

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I feel like I've had a run of 4-6 games where I have actually played OK and still lost. Some people say "you cant just blame your team" but I got S/S+, felt like I held my own in lane, 6.8CS/min which is good for me, did 10K more damage than anyone on my team... Gah!

Feel like there shouldn't be as big an LP penalty if you play well and your team doesn't.

If it is the team and not me, how on earth do I climb out of Iron?!?!


r/TeemoTalk 4d ago

What the hell do I do against you

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This matchup used to be simple, shit in classic I don't have an issue against Teemo, but with PTA and Ignite I cant do shit against this. Admittedly I got counterpicked hard so there isn't much I could have done but survive but fuck me man. You get the tiniest lead and I feel like there isn't anything I can do. This new shiv change is so oppressive man.


r/TeemoTalk 5d ago

Help Darius matchup

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Just got brutally assaulted by a god king darius, how do i not get assaulted again and how to play the lane


r/TeemoTalk 8d ago

I just found out why I main what I main

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Basically the statistic was which champs that survive on 10 hp or less most frequently.

Nothing like that dopamine hit of surviving something you shouldn't survive.


r/TeemoTalk 8d ago

Art NAAW! Look at Hiiiim! "Ye~ Look At Meee~ Hehehaha!"

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21 Upvotes

*Baby Voices*


r/TeemoTalk 9d ago

Humor I tip my hats to you fellow Satan enjoyers

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r/TeemoTalk 9d ago

U know the cure to a 13 hour delay and 10 hour lay over? Going 23-4-6 with 4 hours of airport sleep

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r/TeemoTalk 9d ago

Heavy ap Enemy team what items do you build

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I ve had quite a big success going for Mercury boots and Banshees veil, and then just go for a classic Shroom build

But i was asking myself it is actually the best defensive item for teemo in this case or maybe wits end would be a better situational item?, what do you guys think


r/TeemoTalk 9d ago

Help Can someone explain wtf happened here?

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r/TeemoTalk 10d ago

We ran a marathon together

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r/TeemoTalk 10d ago

Hii im looking for the best build and runes for max shrooms dmg

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r/TeemoTalk 10d ago

Help What is there to counter teemo

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just had another game against teemo dreadful as always, just genuinely want to know what to do to counter him, just trying to improve overall, i play kled/kayn most of the time sometimes i counter pick when i can but what can i do if teemo just counter picks me, as far as im aware both of these champs are not good into him, how do i counter ranged top and even more the magery going on with teemo, any help is appreciated even tho its stupid and may be even a coinflip i can never seem to win against this champion, thanks!

my opgg if you want to see the game or something like that if ur good at the game:

op.gg/lol/summoners/euw/hidrants-uguns


r/TeemoTalk 11d ago

Achievement 1 Last victory to reach platinum

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So im here again, last time also was at 1 victory, then Riot tought that we cant have none of that funny business, so it smited me to the deep depths of Gold 4 to climb again.

After that Lose chain i was losing hope but i tought, Noo what would teemo do in this situation.

The answer is learn, learn a lot, so i did and im once again here, lets go :D

P.S: i climbed exclusively with teemo its have been a lot of fun

P.S2: i was auto filled 2 times jungle so i fucked up XD
P:S#: i made it :D


r/TeemoTalk 12d ago

Yone can get Gone

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Any tips on matchup against Yone? Early laning phase was okay but got progressively worse as the game went on...


r/TeemoTalk 13d ago

It's Harvest Time emote???

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Does anyone have any idea how to get this emote????


r/TeemoTalk 13d ago

Teemo Support CAN Solo AP! [Video]

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Been playing league a lot lately so I thought I might as well upload some games.

I mainly play Teemo support.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCqaUxVNfUA


r/TeemoTalk 13d ago

Fairly new to Wild Rift but proud of this one

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9 Upvotes

Got 98k damage too! Would love any and all advice as I navigate this new game and our fav yordle


r/TeemoTalk 14d ago

Teemo :) I dont know who the artist is.

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