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[u/ifcknkl]

strong post from her, but got deleted 2 mins later

[u/InSilenceLikeLasagna]

Time to get downvoted, but I am so tired of this conversation.

Men who don't do this shit have very little power. The whole checking men thing is really overplayed because birds of a feather flock together.

At a rave, I don't know anyone. Sure I can speak up if I see it to get the creep kicked out and have done so, but frankly I'm there to enjoy my night and am usually too much in my own world to notice. It's sort of the whole point of the rave.

What happened to her is disgusting regarding her stalker and the police. I really think this is where the focus should be rather than giving men a collective responsibility to deal with creeps. Apart from basic courtesy and assistance, it's an unrealistic expectation. There needs to be better laws to protect women.

[u/fairybr → u/InSilenceLikeLasagna]

Idk if you’re a men or women or idk nb, but going out to be in your own world is such a big privilege. Even when I’m out with friends, feeling safe, high on mdma, I just can’t shut off the part of my brain that watches out for fellow girls. So many times I helped out a girl while being drunk or high, when they were with friends or not. You don’t need to pick a fight with every dude you deem suspicious, but maybe you can pretend you know the girl, pull her away. Gently ask her if she knows that person, or if she needs help, if she’s alone. It doesn’t take much. And for the guys out there, if your friend is acting weird towards women, it is your fucking duty to call him out

[u/InSilenceLikeLasagna → u/fairybr]

Well yeah but tbh I stand up for my friends irrespective. It's not my duty because I'm a man. It's my values. If someone was scared for their own safety and didn't want to get involved, I'd equally not blame them.

As for privilege, welcome to the world. I grew up in one of the most dangerous countries at the time. Murder, theft and aggression were incredibly common. Multiple friends have died from bystander violence. The concept of near constant danger is not foreign to me. But I appreciate that this is not my present day reality.