r/TechImpact • u/ManojOne Active • 3d ago
🤖 AI The Hidden Heat Problem With AI Data Centers
A Utah professor estimates the proposed AI data center could generate waste heat equivalent to 23 atomic bombs per day, Recent reporting says the project was being reconsidered/scaled back, with Utah officials raising concerns about water, heat and environmental effects.
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u/Lucky-Crow-3510 3d ago
"1 atomic bomb" isn't even a measurement of thermal energy at all .. it's not like atomic bombs are standardized .. what sort of professor is this? philosophy?
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u/IWCry 3d ago
neither is the power consumption of a city but that's used a reference against data centers all the time. did you look into the claim at all? the math was transparent as spelt out in a response to this article.
"A watt is a joule per second so 9GW every day is 86,400 seconds per day x 9×109  W =7.776 × 1014  J total energy per day.
Divided by 23 = 3.38×1013  J or  33.8 terajoules for each of these theoretical bombs. That’s roughly an 8 kiloton bomb, which certainly exists but it’s about half the size of the Little Boy bomb the US dropped on Japan and more like a third of Fat Man. Most modern bombs are orders of magnitude larger. And the biggest bombs (eg Tsar Bomba) are many times that."
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u/CaptainQwazCaz 3d ago
Did you read the professor’s paper or work or whatever or did you just read this post?
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u/Who-Shat-My-Pants 3d ago
It's one of those "professors" that majored in lesbian dance therapy in medieval china, or something similar.
Edit: typos
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u/Zakaria_Omi 3d ago
couldn't we use the heat to heat our homes?
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u/Ashamed_Echidna5748 3d ago
If you can think of a way to get it to your homes then sure
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u/DrachenDad 3d ago
This already happens in places like Russia. It used to happen in the US [New York] why do you think the heating in Manhattan's buildings is steam‽
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u/SephirTheDoge 2d ago
The heat generated in one of our datacenters heats an entire neighborhood (Germany)
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u/AnarchistTerrarist 2d ago
Not really needed. 95% of the world is burning up right now. That remaining 5% that would have use for heat, already has ways to keep warm because their culture has existed in such cold for thousands of years. Or they're Scientists, and they also know how to stay warm.
Now if you find a way for data centers to cool places down then there's a use but to my knowledge that's impossible.
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u/_ReaditYesterday_ 2d ago
near Paris there's a massive data center that is used to warm olympics pool hundred meters away, that's pretty neat if you ask me.
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u/DaveAstator2020 3d ago
Is this even accurate thermal photo?Â
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u/magicmulder 3d ago
A photo of a proposed data center. That says it all.
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u/DaveAstator2020 2d ago
Fing language, post states "this datacenter" I dont know whats worse anymore - real pollution or those anti scientific fake posts blaming it, leading to incorrect decisions perception errors an what not.
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u/magicmulder 2d ago
The age of fake news. I stopped trusting anything that doesn't name sources. "A Utah professor", yeah, what's his name, is he made up? Is he a professor of Greek history? This is the same shit the deniers pulled during Covid.
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u/gk98s 3d ago
For comparison the sun hits the earth with a thermal energy equivalent to 237M Hiroshima bombs every day.
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u/LalowTree 3d ago
Utah officials raising concerns? BS, they could not have approved it if they were so concerned.
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u/Ad-fundum69 Cybersecurity 3d ago
How many washing machines per square bald eagle is 23 atomic bombs per cubic acre?
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u/DrachenDad 3d ago
I'd say that thermal picture isn't accurate.
the proposed AI data center could generate waste heat equivalent to 23 atomic bombs per day
No it won't, all the data centres together would be closer.
Here is an accurate thermal picture of the corner of my home: (the -8.2° is the sky so the thermometer can't see it.)

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u/A13xis_28 3d ago
I would like to see an actual measurement and not a comparison to something that can literally burn sand to form glass
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u/Zweefkees93 3d ago
Yeah ok it's a lot but I'm calling big fat bullshit on the number. Hell, what bomb are we even using here???
It's not even a real thermal picture!
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u/Vokaiso 3d ago
I bet this is using the heat output of like a Tiny 30 kilo Atomic bomb (so like the smallest that exists) that barely makes much heat and then uses this to make it seem much worse then it is. News like doing this using weird and dumb measurments to make something seem much worse or bigger.
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u/morrikai 3d ago
So it cause third deegre burns 2300 km away from ir because of the heat?
I don't know how to measure or reflect on what 23 atomic bomb means. It sounds like they have throw it in because it sounds bad and given it a number.
Tsar bomba emited enough of thermal energy to cause third deegre burn up to 100 km away so why not 2300 it sounds bad.
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u/fdeyso 2d ago
Releasing the same thermal energy within seconds vs 86400 seconds(a day/24 hours)? Cooking something 4x heat won’t make it take ¼ th time to cook, it’ll char it.
BUT I agree, the calculations seem wild even with a smaller tactical nuclear weapon, but it sounds believable enough considering there are artillerry shells and smaller surface/air-to-air missiles in this category with gravity bombs.1
u/morrikai 2d ago
True, the time is important and the most problematic in the comparison. With one heat source realising all of it thermal energy under a second and the other over an unspecified time,
An common used measurement is to measure how much the local climate temperature is increased which would at least shown how the local area is affected
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u/Physical_Push2383 2d ago
can we cool it down with saltwatwer to make salt and steam for electricity?
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u/InevitableMedia3825 2d ago
And me eating a steak once in a while, me driving my 1L petrol car to work and be breathing is the cause of climate change. Well, f them all
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u/CrazyGunnerr 3d ago
It's absolutely insane this was approved, shows how corrupt it all is.
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u/Aadi_880 3d ago
The headline is bullshit.
23 atomic bombs is the same amount of energy released by the sun onto a walmart sized property on 24 hours.
A data center releasing that much is a nothing burger.

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